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8 US Troops Die in Heavy Afghan Combat

October 05, 2009
Long War Journal|by Bill Roggio
Benefiting the US Army, US Navy, US Air Force, Marine Corps, Coast Guard - Military.com

U.S. and Afghan forces beat back a brazen assault on two joint outposts in the eastern Afghan province of Nuristan. The attack was led by Taliban commander Dost Mohammed and was aided by al Qaeda's Shadow Army. Eight U.S. troops, seven Afghan troops, and an unspecified number of enemy fighters were killed during the fighting, which ended after U.S. air and artillery pounded the fighters in a counterattack.

The U.S. military said the fighters launched the attack on the two remote outposts in the district of Kamdish, just 10 miles from the Pakistani border, after organizing at a nearby mosque and a village. More than 300 fighters were involved in the assault, according to Quqnoos, an Afghan newspaper.

The fighting was said to be intense and lasted for several hours. It ended after U.S. attack helicopters, strike fighters, and artillery pounded the insurgent assault teams. Eight U.S. and seven Afghan security personnel have been reported killed, and the district police chief and 13 policemen were captured. The U.S. military did not provide an estimate of enemy killed, but said U.S. and Afghan forces “inflicted heavy enemy casualties” during the counterattack.

A 'complex attack'

The U.S. military said the attack was “complex,” meaning it was well organized and executed. The fighters used assault rifles, heavy machine guns, rocket-propelled grenades, and heavy weapons such as rockets and mortars. The attack was coordinated and the fighters were able to withdraw from the battlefield in an organized fashion while under heavy fire. According to one report, the bodies of only five enemy fighters were found in the aftermath of the attack.

"This was a complex attack in a difficult area,” said Colonel Randy George, the commander of Task Force Mountain Warrior.

The U.S. military described the attackers as “Nuristani tribal militia” and said that “the sources of the conflict in the area involve complex tribal, religious and economic dynamics.” Afghan officials described the attackers as Taliban, Uzbek, and Arab fighters who crossed into Afghanistan from Pakistan.

Taliban spokesman Zabihullah Mujahid said the Taliban was behind the attack; he also said the fate of the captured policemen has yet to be determined.

The attack took place as the U.S. military has stated it was prepared to withdraw from the Nuristan region.

“Coalition forces' previously announced plans to depart the area as part of a broader realignment to protect larger population centers remain unchanged,” the U.S. military said in the press release on the attack.

Several U.S. analysts and think tanks have advocated withdrawing from rural regions in eastern Afghanistan.

Al Qaeda’s Shadow Army played a role in the attack

While the U.S. military has portrayed today’s Nuristan assault as being conducted by local “Nuristani tribal militia,” U.S. military and intelligence officials contacted by The Long War Journal said al Qaeda’s paramilitary Shadow Army participated in the attack.

The attack was launched by Taliban leader Dost Mohammed, a senior U.S. military intelligence official who specializes in the situation along the Afghan-Pakistani border told The Long War Journal. The official said that elements from the Shadow Army “stiffened” Dost’s forces, which are considered able and effective fighters in their own right.

Dost is the Taliban’s shadow governor of Nuristan province, who has close links to al Qaeda and the Pakistani Taliban just across the border. “He’s an operator, a big, big commander for Nuristan, and has lots of resources,” a U.S. expert who advises the U.S. government on the Taliban told The Long War Journal.

Dost has occasionally run afoul of the decisions made by the Taliban’s executive council, or the Shura Majlis, over leadership decisions in the region.

“In 2007, Dost Mohammed was against the Quetta Shura appointment of Maulvi Abdul Kabir, a Zadran Pashtun Taliban leader with strong links to Omar, as the Taliban's Eastern Zone Commander,” the U.S. expert, who wished to remain anonymous, said. “Dost has always enjoyed semi-autonomy control over his area of operations and his own resources in Nuristan.”

Dost’s forces and the Shadow Army conducted a somewhat similar attack in July 2008 in the village of Wanat in Nuristan. A force estimated at between 200 to 400 fighters assaulted a small outpost as it was being built. The daylong firefight pitted the 48 U.S. and 24 Afghan troops against the large Taliban and al Qaeda force. Nine U.S. Soldiers and between 20 to 50 enemy fighters were killed during the fierce battle, in which the assault force briefly entered the outer perimeter of the compound before being repelled.
 
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Who cares. They treat our dead soldiers like numbers, we treat them the same way.
 
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US soldiers are also victim of conspiracy of their own state as are our soldiers.
Look at this indian guy standing behind a terrorist face from north Afghanistan.
Indian guy looked bored of protecting stupid Afghani, or pretending to be the soldier of the stupid Afghani in picture.

I'm sure after the picture the Afghani guy will resume serving tea to his indian master.

Official indian army version:
 
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Loss of life no matter whose should not be enjoyed or celebrated. Every human life is sacred and should be protected to the extent possible.

It is easy for stupid and moron's to post their comments however they do not understand the pain and agony the families of soldiers go through when they come to know about loss of lifes of soldiers at front especially thousands of miles away.
 
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Loss of life no matter whose should not be enjoyed or celebrated. Every human life is sacred and should be protected to the extent possible.

It is easy for stupid and moron's to post their comments however they do not understand the pain and agony the families of soldiers go through when they come to know about loss of lifes of soldiers at front especially thousands of miles away.

A simple thumbs up was not enough thanks, well stated and so true.
 
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It is easy for stupid and moron's to post their comments however they do not understand the pain and agony the families of soldiers go through when they come to know about loss of lifes of soldiers at front especially thousands of miles away.

you should then also mourn for the families of kaffirs who killed muslims in 47,65 and today in present day Kashmir.
 
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you should then also mourn for the families of kaffirs who killed muslims in 47,65 and today in present day Kashmir.

I am very clear in my views and thoughts and own whatever I state. I am not an emotional person who wishes to destroy India, USA or for that sake every one else other than himself.

My view still is that every human life is sacred and should not be wasted.
 
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Dost’s forces and the Shadow Army conducted a somewhat similar attack in July 2008 in the village of Wanat in Nuristan.


So lets see if we can better understand this -- between 200 to 400 Talib/AQ's Uzbeks and their weapons traveled and quartered and massed and positioned themselves -- all without US forces and Afghan intel catching wind of it?

If indeed this is the 2nd time Dost Mohammad's forces have done this, what does it say about the quality of intel, the quality of prepartion of US forces, especially in the Nuristan and Kunar??

Something stinks and the sooner the US commanders waken to it the better for all who fight islamist insurgents.
 
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Loss of life no matter whose should not be enjoyed or celebrated. Every human life is sacred and should be protected to the extent possible.

It is easy for stupid and moron's to post their comments however they do not understand the pain and agony the families of soldiers go through when they come to know about loss of lifes of soldiers at front especially thousands of miles away.

Are same moron's able to understand families of Soldiers are not the only living humans on the face of earth and Americans are not the only sensitive living creature who weeps upon death?. Did the families of 5 Lac Iraqi's didn't had any sentiments who were assassinated brutally by the same force? Are Afghans not humans? Is death of innocent families and children as a result of drones not any painful? You are a senior member Sir and junior members expect wisdom from seniors fellows over here so please be mindful of this responsibility.
 
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A simple thumbs up was not enough thanks, well stated and so true.

I really appreciate your post sir, people like you give reason for the world to hate the western mindset. Thanks for making your allies earn more of that.
 
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even US soldiers on ground do n t know what they are fighting for????
this will never end and Pakistan will suffer more.
 
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Are same moron's able to understand families of Soldiers are not the only living humans on the face of earth and Americans are not the only sensitive living creature who weeps upon death?. Did the families of 5 Lac Iraqi's didn't had any sentiments who were assassinated brutally by the same force? Are Afghans not humans? Is death of innocent families and children as a result of drones not any painful? You are a senior member Sir and junior members expect wisdom from seniors fellows over here so please be mindful of this responsibility.

Every human being includes Iraqi's and Afghan's. I was not aware that they were some special type.

I have not limited myself to military personnel only. Every Human being means every one including civilians.

Whatever Americans have done in Iraq or Afghanistan can not be justified but does it mean we should also do the same with American people. Then what shall be the difference between them and us.

As far as American involvement in Pakistan and their activities are concerned our own government and people are responsible for that. It is government who has allowed them freedom to do whatever they wish to do and we the people who voted them to power.
 
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even US soldiers on ground do n t know what they are fighting for????
this will never end and Pakistan will suffer more.

Surely US forces dont know what is their reason of being here. Establishment of greater American base in Afghanistan to counter China or are they really looking to kill Alqaida.

No Pakistan will not suffer more Inshallah. Our worst is behind us when USA, the mad bull was at rage. Our lines are clear, we just need to realize we live in Pakistan are this is our Homeland whom we must protect. Americans are Aliens in this territory and they will leave in a year or 10 years if one likes to stretch on that. Pakistan is slowly and gradually going back to the position it had before 9/11. Taliban Government in Afghanistan suits us many ways. We lived peacefully with Afghan Taliban and we can live peacefully again. The only cancer we need to take out if America and even we dont help Taliban against them, Americans have created enough self-defeating factors against whom they cannot sustain longer.

:pakistan: We shall prosper, Inshallah!
 
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Every human being includes Iraqi's and Afghan's. I was not aware that they were some special type.

I have not limited myself to military personnel only. Every Human being means every one including civilians.

Whatever Americans have done in Iraq or Afghanistan can not be justified but does it mean we should also do the same with American people. Then what shall be the difference between them and us.

As far as American involvement in Pakistan and their activities are concerned our own government and people are responsible for that. It is government who has allowed them freedom to do whatever they wish to do and we the people who voted them to power.

Sir American uniform is red with nearly 8,00,000 deaths and there are 8 of them who died. Should we mourn the death of every mass-murderer who kills thousands of innocent and gets victim of a random bullet? These soldiers are not defending their pride homeland that we could be sympathetic to their deaths, they are the invaders and worse terrorists than Usama Bin-Ladin who claimed 4,000 lives in his supposedly attack over WTC.

Deaths are not to be celebrated but when some blood thirsty soldier who killed thousands of innocents departs, one peace loving person would only Thank God for his departure instead of sobbing.

Holy Prophet PBUH said, if you see a crime/sin happening, stop it with hand, if you cannot stop with hand, stop it with your tongue and if you cannot do so, then feel bad about it in heart but this is the lowest degree of your belief.

Do we understand that killings in then hands of Americans are injust? Do we identify all the humans worthy of respect and life even if they do not have American Passport? Are we able to feel bad for terrorism America is spreading all over the globe? When Mullahs are worse humans, are American saints? When we do not repent on death of TTP leaders, should we mourn on the death of Americans?

Lets think.
 
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