60 Indian soldiers killed this year, double annual toll in last 2 years

[INDIAPOSITIVE]

THE ARMY has lost nearly twice the number of soldiers in Jammu and Kashmir this year as compared to the annual toll in the last two years. While this is mainly due to increase in ceasefire violations, counter-infiltration and Pakistan Army’s Border Action Team (BAT) operations on the Line of Control (LoC), there has also been an increase in the number of soldiers killed in counter-terrorist operations in the state.

According to Defence Ministry sources, 60 soldiers were killed in J&K till December 15 this year — the toll was 33 soldiers in 2015 and 32 in 2014. Of the 60 soldiers who died this year, 23 were killed in operations at the LoC — ceasefire violations, counter-infiltration and BAT operations. In contrast, only four soldiers died on the LoC in 2015, and five in 2014.

Thirty-seven soldiers were killed in counter-terrorist operations in the hinterland, up from the 29 killed in 2015 and 27 in 2014. “The number of dead soldiers is higher this year due to two major terror incidents — one at Uri and another in Nagrota, where we unfortunately lost a total of 26 men,” said an Army official.

After the Uri attack, in which 19 soldiers were killed, the Army launched “surgical strikes” on six terror launch-pads across the LoC. This was followed by an increase in the number of ceasefire violations on the LoC, where both sides used heavy weaponry, including artillery guns, in ground fire.

During his visit to Northern Command headquarters at Udhampur last month, Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar was shown a four-minute-long video of the high intensity firing on Pakistani posts at the LoC. The Pakistan Army has also shared videos and photographs of heavy action on Indian posts on the LoC. There has, however, been a decline in the number of ceasefire violations in the past three weeks.

“Our posts on the LoC are better prepared than the Pakistanis. These posts are in much better shape and, despite their best attempts, our casualties have been limited. An active LoC will always have more chances of casualties than a non-active one,” said a top Army official from Udhampur.

As much as the top Army leadership understands the importance of the LoC ceasefire, it feels that there was no choice but to retaliate after the Uri attack. The only question raised, top Army sources said, was whether such retaliation “was part of a policy or just a one-off thing”.

Top Army sources admitted that there has been a rise in terror incidents in the Valley. Over 100 terrorists have been killed this year, sources said, and more infiltration attempts have been made at the LoC.

Meanwhile, all the top Army formations in J&K have seen a leadership change in recent months. Earlier this month, Lt General Devraj Anbu took over as the new GOC-in-C at Udhampur-headquartered Northern Command, which looks after the whole of J&K, following the retirement of Lt General D S Hooda.

Srinagar-based 15 Corps, which is responsible for areas in J&K north of Pir Panjal ranges, saw a change of command last month when Lt General J S Sandhu replaced Lt General Satish Dua. In October, Lt General A K Sharma took over the responsibility for areas south of Pir Panjal as 16 Corps Commander from Lt General R R Nimbhorkar.

“Our processes and systems are already institutionalised. Personalities definitely matter at that level, but only to a limited extent. We should not worry about so many senior-level changes in such a short period affecting the Army operations in J&K in any major way,” said sources.




http://www.defencenews.in/article/6...ar,-double-annual-toll-in-last-2-years-189663

 

[Qutb-ud-din Aybak]

the number will increase when few years later real figure are released just like the figure 4675.

 

[Hamza913]

the number will increase when few years later real figure are released just like the figure 4675.

What do you mean 4675? What war is that a reference to?

 

[Killswitch]

Those who pay the price of their lives for freedom from religious extremism and Wahabism deserve our thanks. RIP to the soldiers and may god bless their families.

The country finally has leadership that takes security seriously. Over time the ability for Islamic terrorists and the state that supports them to harm India will be minimized, while the costs for them will increase.

 

[Qutb-ud-din Aybak]

What do you mean 4675? What war is that a reference to?

indian military report in which they have axxepted all these deaths at LOC in pakistani firing since 2001.

 

[AUz]

LOL.

Pakistan Army shafted indian army and modi's efforts to show himself as a though cookie..

And remember, 60 deaths are "accepted" losses..real losses are most likely far higher due to successful targeting by Pakistani forces in the region.

 

[Asgard]

LOL.

Pakistan Army shafted indian army and modi's efforts to show himself as a though cookie..

And remember, 60 deaths are "accepted" losses..real losses are most likely far higher due to successful targeting by Pakistani forces in the region.

Actually it is Pakistan Army which is hiding casualties, only to get exposed by their own defence minister interview:

https://twitter.com/x/status/802014054382501888

indian military report in which they have axxepted all these deaths at LOC in pakistani firing since 2001.

Actually its a mere 144, whereas Pakistani losses are far heavier at over 250

http://www.timesofindia.com/india/p...pact-as-good-as-over/articleshow/55678657.cms

www.dailyexcelsior.com/169-civilians-144-security-men-killed-border-firing/

60 is nothing, Pakistan Army losses against rag tag tribal rebels of FATA are nearly 550 dead and over 2200 injured in ~two years.

http://www.dawn.com/news/1281352

 

[AUz]

Actually it is Pakistan Army which is hiding casualties, only to get exposed by their own defence minister interview:

https://twitter.com/x/status/802014054382501888

Nobody hid anything there--did they? 27 military casualities on our side and accepted by defense minister

Whereas indians were stating only "14" casualities of their own in another thread just YESTERDAY

And today, your government hesitantly admitted to 60 soldiers dead. That's more than DOUBLE to what we lost in LoC sector.

And again, it's not even true figures since indians are notorious for hiding their casualities out of humiliation.

60 is nothing, Pakistan Army losses against rag tag tribal rebels of FATA are nearly 550 dead and over 2200 injured in ~two years.

http://www.dawn.com/news/1281352

That's an all out war

That's like putting down U.S military losing thousands of soldiers by rag tag insurgents in Afghanistan, Iraq, Vietnam, and so on.

Despite wars, our soldiers are men and aren't hijras like yours. Look at the suicide ratio of both armies. indian army men kill themselves on regular basis

 

[Asgard]

Nobody hid anything there--did they? 27 military casualities on our side and accepted by defense minister

Whereas indians were stating only "14" casualities of their own in another thread just YESTERDAY

And today, your government hesitantly admitted to 60 soldiers dead. That's more than DOUBLE to what we lost in LoC sector.

And again, it's not even true figures since indians are notorious for hiding their casualities out of humiliation.



That's an all out war

That's like putting down U.S military losing thousands of soldiers by rag tag insurgents in Afghanistan, Iraq, Vietnam, and so on.

Despite wars, our soldiers are men and aren't hijras like yours. Look at the suicide ratio of both armies. indian army men kill themselves on regular basis

LMAO.
60 is the figure including losses in counter insurgency ops, 14 is the loses in border firing only.

Thus Pakistani casualties in border firing are near two times higher
Only army notorious for hiding casualties is Pakistan Army:

The Pakistani military, which is known to downplay its own casualties

http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2009/01/taliban_rule_pakista.php

Also Pakistan Army suicide and fratricide are so high that your ISPR doesn't even release figures, that said Indian Army suicide rate is much lower than US, France, Russian, Japan, S.Korean, Israeli, Turkish etc armies.

 

[Qutb-ud-din Aybak]

Actually it is Pakistan Army which is hiding casualties, only to get exposed by their own defence minister interview:

https://twitter.com/x/status/802014054382501888

Actually its a mere 144, whereas Pakistani losses are far heavier at over 250

http://www.timesofindia.com/india/p...pact-as-good-as-over/articleshow/55678657.cms

www.dailyexcelsior.com/169-civilians-144-security-men-killed-border-firing/

60 is nothing, Pakistan Army losses against rag tag tribal rebels of FATA are nearly 550 dead and over 2200 injured in ~two years.

http://www.dawn.com/news/1281352

he gave civilians and soldiers casualities combine. 12 soldiers with 50+civilians only shows how animals indians are to deliberately kill civilians.
yes 550 died in FATA in 2 years but we accepted them. unlike indians who accept it after pressure from courts.
4675 killed in pakistani firing only. this don't include 3000+ BSF killed by our forces. and add siachin operation prakran deaths to it 4000+. add other deaths like suicides, and heart attacks which makes major portion of your young army deaths 450+ ,only during last few years+ add to it the men you lost to militants in kashmir and other at LOC and myanmer border 6000+ add to it those killed by moaists and naxalite during last 15 years 2500+
add to it.
total=minimum 20625+ indian forces killed after kargil.
the numbers are too big for you. it donot includes many others killed in chinese border and your army not accepting dead there. and if i add post kargil deaths of indian forces by freedom fighter in all states like khalistan. you won't be able digest the numbers.

Also Pakistan Army suicide and fratricide are so high that your ISPR doesn't even release figures, that said Indian Army suicide rate is much lower than US, France, Russian, Japan, S.Korean, Israeli, Turkish etc armies.

Pakistani soldiers don't do suicide. infact muslim soldiers don't do suicides due to strict religious commands.even at extreme situation our soldiers don't do it. in the same situation even US soldiers get frustrated and do it.we are fighting exactly same war in FATA. but US war veterans do it regularly.
the only suicides our soldiers did sometimes were to blow enemy tanks.
i can see your frustration. On LOC every second day Pakistani soldiers are on red alert after listening to firing inside indian posts. Suicide army. indian army suicides since 2009 700+.

 

[Asgard]

he gave civilians and soldiers casualities combine. 12 soldiers with 50+civilians only shows how animals indians are to deliberately kill civilians.
yes 550 died in FATA in 2 years but we accepted them. unlike indians who accept it after pressure from courts.
4675 killed in pakistani firing only. this don't include 3000+ BSF killed by our forces. and add siachin operation prakran deaths to it 4000+. add other deaths like suicides, and heart attacks which makes major portion of your young army deaths 450+ ,only during last few years+ add to it the men you lost to militants in kashmir and other at LOC and myanmer border 6000+ add to it those killed by moaists and naxalite during last 15 years 2500+
add to it.
total=minimum 20625+ indian forces killed after kargil.
the numbers are too big for you. it donot includes many others killed in chinese border and your army not accepting dead there. and if i add post kargil deaths of indian forces by freedom fighter in all states like khalistan. you won't be able digest the numbers.


Pakistani soldiers don't do suicide. infact muslim soldiers don't do suicides due to strict religious commands.
the only suicides our soldiers did sometimes were to blow enemy tanks.
i can see your frustration. On LOC every seond day Pakistani soldiers are on red alert after listening to firing inside indian posts. Suicide army.

LMAOHe clearly said, 27 soldiers killed and 66 injured in addition to 44 civilians.
Total Indian Security forces casualties in the last 10 years are half of Pakistan's.
In fact Indian security forces have been so successful that Maoist are the least violent since 1998 & Northeast is most peaceful since 1950s.
Punjab has seen no insurgency since the 1999.
Also Indian border firing casualties are Only 144.
But Pakistan still has to resort to air strike on its own territory.

In Pakistan, 8000 soldiers have been killed by tribal rebels, 4000 killed by Baloch rebels, 1000 killed by Afghan firing, 2000 killed by Indian firing on borders.


Pakistan Arny suicide rate is too high to even disclo in public.
Muslim armies have the highest suicide rates, just see Turkish Army suicide rate:

http://www.dailysabah.com/nation/20...ed-from-suicide-than-combat-in-10-years-panel

 

[AUz]

LMAO.
60 is the figure including losses in counter insurgency ops, 14 is the loses in border firing only.

Thus Pakistani casualties in border firing are near two times higher

From the article that you clearly didn't read..

23 were killed in operations at the LoC — ceasefire violations, counter-infiltration and BAT operations

Does 23 and 14 sound equal to you, kid? Moreover, uptil yesterday...only 14 soldiers had died on LoC according to official accounts. And today, all of a sudden, number goes upto 23? So much for credibility of your official sources. Even in this article, they are lying---let me show you

From the article

23 were killed in operations at the LoC — ceasefire violations, counter-infiltration and BAT operations. In contrast, only four soldiers died on the LoC in 2015, and five in 2014.

So only 4 indian soldiers died on LoC last year? Then why did YOUR OWN GOVERNMENT reported last year that 17 indian soldiers were killed in LoC skirmishes with Pakistan (Remember 2014-2015 skirmishes?)

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com...olations-by-pakistan/articleshow/48118027.cms

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India–Pakistan_border_skirmishes_(2014–2015)

Read the wikipedia article. 17 indian soldiers were admitted to be killed by Pakistani firing by indian army itself (whereas Pakistani side claimed 35 indian soldiers dead)

Now what? Now indian government is saying "Oh we lost 23 this year but before that only 4,5 were lost

Another humiliating lie of indian government trying to save face when utterly shafted in the arse by Pakistan military along LoC yet again. Your own sources have proven that indian offcial sources have literally no credibility when it comes to accepting their casualities.

Even in 2014-2015 confrontation, Pakistan lost only 7 soldiers while india admitted to losing 18 soldiers in Skirmishes according to official accounts of both nations.

Also Pakistan Army suicide and fratricide are so high that your ISPR doesn't even release figures,

How do you know that suicide rate of Pakistan Army is SO high that ISPR doesn't release it?

It's like me saying "indian solders s*ck so much c*ck of each other than indian army doesn't even publish the increasing homosexual tendencies of indian army"

See, how easy it is?

Unlike weak, unprofessional, and gutless indian soldiers--our soldiers don't commit suicide at significant rates like indians do. In Islam, suicide is STRICTLY haram no matter what. That is also one of the reason why suicide rates ACROSS Muslim world are one of the lowest in the world.

Infact, out of top 10 countries with LOWEST suicide rates---9 are Muslim majority countries! Infact, ALL *major* Muslim countries (like Pakistan, Indonesia, Malaysia, Turkey, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Algeria, Morocco, Tunisia, Iraq etc etc) have far, far lower suicide rates than India (let alone U.S, Japan etc).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_rate

Don't embarrass yourself further by bring Turkish army figures. Turkey is a conscript force NOT a professional army like india and Pakistan are. Compare professional armies in same environment (india and Pakistan) to each other. And here, hijra indian forces are far more likely to commit suicides because they are mentally weak and pathetic.

Fun fact: Suicide rate in india is more than 230% that of Pakistan! But i understand, when you don't have toilets and are in extreme poverty---suicide seems rational. I feel bad for indians who are born in the biggest shit hole of the world (literally!) lols

 

[Peaceful Civilian]

RIP. Mostly killed by coward terrorist attacks , they are killing them from behind. Uri incident is worst form of cruelty when terrorist attacked sleeping soldiers and burnt them alive. It was sad day for humanity and world will not forget this.

 

[Asgard]

From the article that you clearly didn't read..



Does 23 and 14 sound equal to you, kid? Moreover, uptil yesterday...only 14 soldiers had died on LoC according to official accounts. And today, all of a sudden, number goes upto 23? So much for credibility of your official sources. Even in this article, they are lying---let me show you

From the article



So only 4 indian soldiers died on LoC last year? Then why did YOUR OWN GOVERNMENT reported last year that 17 indian soldiers were killed in LoC skirmishes with Pakistan (Remember 2014-2015 skirmishes?)

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com...olations-by-pakistan/articleshow/48118027.cms

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India–Pakistan_border_skirmishes_(2014–2015)

Read the wikipedia article. 17 indian soldiers were admitted to be killed by Pakistani firing by indian army itself (whereas Pakistani side claimed 35 indian soldiers dead)

Now what? Now indian government is saying "Oh we lost 23 this year but before that only 4,5 were lost

Another humiliating lie of indian government trying to save face when utterly shafted in the arse by Pakistan military along LoC yet again. Your own sources have proven that indian offcial sources have literally no credibility when it comes to accepting their casualities.

Even in 2014-2015 confrontation, Pakistan lost only 7 soldiers while india admitted to losing 18 soldiers in Skirmishes according to official accounts of both nations.





How do you know that suicide rate of Pakistan Army is SO high that ISPR doesn't release it?

Unlike weak, unprofessional, and gutless indian soldiers--our soldiers don't commit suicide at significant rates like indians do. In Islam, suicide is STRICTLY haram no matter what. That is also one of the reason why suicide rates ACROSS Muslim world are one of the lowest in the world.

Don't embarrass yourself further.

It's like me saying "indian solders s*ck so much c*ck of each other than indian army doesn't even publish the increasing homosexual tendencies of indian army"

See, how easy it is?

LMAO.
23 Figures, includes Only 14 killed in border firing.
5 died in militant attacks on LoC whereas 4 died in encounters.
This year we eliminated 150 terrorists and 27+ Pakistani soldiers.

Pakistani casualties are so high that they do not even release the data in public.

Muslim armies have some the highest suicide rates in the world, just look at Turkish Army stats:

http://www.dailysabah.com/nation/20...ed-from-suicide-than-combat-in-10-years-panel

 

[AUz]

LMAO.
23 Figures, includes Only 14 killed in border firing.
5 died in militant attacks on LoC whereas 4 died in encounters.
This year we eliminated 150 terrorists and 27+ Pakistani soldiers.

Pakistani casualties are so high that they do not even release the data in public.

You did not answer about the contradiction of the article I mentioned

I exposed the lie of indian government by using india's own official data and you have no come back to that? Just blabbering "oh Pakistan doesn't release figures. Pakistan doesn't release figures"

Aww, poor kid got cornered and have nothing to say now?

Muslim armies have some the highest suicide rates in the world, just look at Turkish Army stats:

http://www.dailysabah.com/nation/20...ed-from-suicide-than-combat-in-10-years-panel

Since you did not read my previous post---here it is once again

Unlike weak, unprofessional, and gutless indian soldiers--our soldiers don't commit suicide at significant rates like indians do. In Islam, suicide is STRICTLY haram no matter what. That is also one of the reason why suicide rates ACROSS Muslim world are one of the lowest in the world.

Infact, out of top 10 countries with LOWEST suicide rates---9 are Muslim majority countries! Infact, ALL *major* Muslim countries (like Pakistan, Indonesia, Malaysia, Turkey, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Algeria, Morocco, Tunisia, Iraq etc etc) have far, far lower suicide rates than India (let alone U.S, Japan etc).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_rate

Don't embarrass yourself further by bring Turkish army figures. Turkey is a conscript force NOT a professional army like india and Pakistan are. Compare professional armies in same environment (india and Pakistan) to each other. And here, hijra indian forces are far more likely to commit suicides because they are mentally weak and pathetic.

Fun fact: Suicide rate in india is more than 230% that of Pakistan! But i understand, when you don't have toilets and are in extreme poverty---suicide seems rational. I feel bad for indians who are born in the biggest shit hole of the world (literally!) lols

You mentioning Turkey is funny because in general, indian suicide rate is 300% higher than Turkey's according to WHO figures on suicide across countries

Regarding military, nearly 600 indian soldiers committed suicide in last 5 years--that's more than 100 soldiers each year

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...ears-government-says/articleshow/38873826.cms

Turkey's rate is far lower on per year basis--and again, Turkey isn't even a professional army like india. They are a conscript army where conscripts are not trained like professional solders..and hence more suspetible to falling to pressure. But indians are so hijray, there professional solders and officers kill themselves by hundreds each year!