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Nope...Libya account for less than %1 of US foreign oil import...

WorldCity - Gadhafi's Libya accounts for less than 1% of U.S. oil imports


But...

China to Renew Libyan Oil Deal. - Libyaonline.com

Please provide sources for your claim.

Gambit- actually I'm all for US intervention in Libya. Libya supplies china alot and they are / gaddafi was close to china- this is perfect for us americans to take one out of from china's legs , so as to speak. It has strategic vaule..and it could increase exports to the US ( oil).
 
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Gambit- actually I'm all for US intervention in Libya. Libya supplies china alot and they are / gaddafi was close to china- this is perfect for us americans to take one out of from china's legs , so as to speak. It has strategic vaule..and it could increase exports to the US ( oil).
I disagree. It is not as if we cannot do something like impose a 'no-fly zone' to allow the rebellion to overthrow Gotdoofy, but we should take the strategic and pragmatic view regarding China and let Libya descend to a full blown civil war and let China's dependency on Libyan oil determine China's actions. China must be placed into America's shoes regarding strategic interests outside one's borders and personalities not under one's influences. What will it be for China: Gotdoofus, the rebellion, or do nothing?

We know the Arabs will do nothing because whatever little they can do will cost them much more in terms of investments in the long run. They did little for Kuwait. It was US who decided to let an Egyptian unit made the symbolic entrance into Kuwait to save some Arab face. The Arabs know that if they enter Libya, they will own the country for the next several years and their internal squabbles on who willl do what/where will ruin the country just like how Lebanon was ruined. Let China make the tough decision. Or not so tough if the decision is to do nothing. Then the world will know what China is made of when the going gets rough.
 
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I disagree. It is not as if we cannot do something like impose a 'no-fly zone' to allow the rebellion to overthrow Gotdoofy, but we should take the strategic and pragmatic view regarding China and let Libya descend to a full blown civil war and let China's dependency on Libyan oil determine China's actions. China must be placed into America's shoes regarding strategic interests outside one's borders and personalities not under one's influences. What will it be for China: Gotdoofus, the rebellion, or do nothing?

We know the Arabs will do nothing because whatever little they can do will cost them much more in terms of investments in the long run. They did little for Kuwait. It was US who decided to let an Egyptian unit made the symbolic entrance into Kuwait to save some Arab face. The Arabs know that if they enter Libya, they will own the country for the next several years and their internal squabbles on who willl do what/where will ruin the country just like how Lebanon was ruined. Let China make the tough decision. Or not so tough if the decision is to do nothing. Then the world will know what China is made of when the going gets rough.

:coffee: Do you think China had trouble in Libya? Why do you think so? If the USA can live with the oil prices, we of course can be also.
 
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:coffee: Do you think China had trouble in Libya? Why do you think so?
It is not so much troubles as it is about strategic interests.

If the USA can live with the oil prices, we of course can be also.
How much Libyan oil does China import as in percentage of total? So it is not so much about price but about the degree of dependency and the viability of alternate sources. I have no doubt the Chinese leadership is aware of the complexities and difficulties of dealing with childish governments in the ME but am willing to bet that now China finally realizes how much more difficult it is in reality versus the abstract when the US was the leader/scapegoat in the region now that China is aspiring to at least be on a par with US if not replace US.
 
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China relies on Libya's oil? it was a hallucination, Libya's oil 85% offer to Europe, 5% to the United States, the other to Asia, I do not even know how many Chinese can get. Now you think what China should do?.
 
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Chinese way is to discuss trade, if the need to protect China's interests abroad, only limited to protect China's investment and performance of the contract, or that China's deterrence against other players, not the developing countries.
 
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China relies on Libya's oil? it was a hallucination, Libya's oil 85% offer to Europe, 5% to the United States, the other to Asia, I do not even know how many Chinese can get. Now you think what China should do?.
I asked for a percentage of total...But here is a teaser for you...

China oil buys from Saudi, Iran drop; Libya, Angola up | Reuters
Imports from Libya soared 250 percent on year to 146,000 bpd, following a doubling in purchases last year at an average of 127,000 bpd.

The trend is in line with an earlier Reuters report that China's top refiner Sinopec Corp was set to renew a crude supply deal with Libya to take close to 200,000 bpd of oil this year..
Is China building a US-style strategic reserve or not?
 
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China's reputation is more important than your advice.

China already has a strategic petroleum reserve, with the help of Saudi Arabia, although not the same large scale than US.
Fine...So you do not know anything about China's oil dependency.
 
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Yes, my dear vietcom, we are working on our own strategic as plan, thanks for your concern::lol:

Fuel reserve project moves into new phase - People's Daily Online January 27, 2011

2010 petroleum stockpiles equal to 36 days of consumption demand

China's strategic petroleum reserve capacity is expected to reach 274 million barrels by 2012.

However, that figure will not be confirmed for nearly two years, at the completion of the second phase of the reserve project for the fuel, according to the China Petroleum and Chemical Industry Federation (CPCIF).

The country's strategic stockpiling capacity had reached 178 million barrels at the end of last year, while its commercial inventory capacity hit 168 million barrels, the federation said in a report on Wednesday.

The combined reserve capacity was equivalent to about 36 days of domestic consumption demand, according to the report.

China has started construction of the eight sites for the second phase of the strategic reserve project. The first phase was completed in early 2009, with a designed capacity of 164 million cubic meters.

The country is now planning the third phase, scheduled to be completed by 2020, when the total reserve volume will be equivalent to 100 days of imports, according to the mid- and long-term oil reserve plan, approved by the State Council in February 2009.

"China's crude oil imports rose by 17.4 percent year-on-year to 239 million tons in 2010. The import volume reached $134.94 billion, accounting for 42 percent of the total import volume in the nation's petrochemical industry," said Zhu Fang, vice-director of the Information and Marketing Department at the CPCIF.

China, the world's second-largest oil consumer, saw its consumption rise by 12.9 percent last year from 2009, the biggest jump since 2005. Its apparent oil demand, which is composed of output and imports, but excludes stockpiles, hit 439 million tons in 2010, the report said.

By contrast, the nation only realized 203 million tons in crude oil output last year, up 6.9 percent from a year earlier, leaving a gap that has to be filled by imports.

Overseas oil is expected to have accounted for 55 percent of the nation's total consumption in 2010, Zhu said. The foreign oil dependency ratio is expected to gradually expand going forward to support the country's fast economic growth. China's GDP reached 10.3 percent in 2010.

By the end of 2010, the combined length of all of China's oil and gas pipelines extended 78,000 kilometers (km), including a 1,000 km-long oil pipeline linking Russia and China that started transporting oil on Jan 1. The pipeline has helped to ease the nation's heavy reliance on oil imports from the Middle East.

In addition, the federation said that China's petrochemical sector, which is expected to realize a profit of 690 billion yuan ($104 billion) last year with a 36 percent year-on-year increase, has started to expand again after hitting a low point as a result of the global financial crisis in 2009, Zhu said.
 
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It is not so much troubles as it is about strategic interests.


How much Libyan oil does China import as in percentage of total? So it is not so much about price but about the degree of dependency and the viability of alternate sources. I have no doubt the Chinese leadership is aware of the complexities and difficulties of dealing with childish governments in the ME but am willing to bet that now China finally realizes how much more difficult it is in reality versus the abstract when the US was the leader/scapegoat in the region now that China is aspiring to at least be on a par with US if not replace US.

:coffee: China has never denied that USA is the world leader. China supported the first Gulf War, but China is opposed to the Second Gulf War.
Libyan-War like the first Gulf War, China supports the USA to overthrow Gaddafi. USA is the world leader, it certainly should send troops to Libya.
 
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Yes, my dear vietcom, we are working on our own strategic as plan, thanks for your concern::lol:
Good...My dear Chicom...Now China is one more step closer to being more like US...:lol:
 
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