5 Turkish companies take part in consortium for domestically-made car production

[SouI]

How many people could effort buying car for 30.000$ every year?

Those numbers are obviously in tl...

 

[Kitco]

Rahmi Koç said that In order to meet productivity you have to sell 2 or 3 millions automobile per year.
How many people could effort buying car for 30.000$ every year?

Volvo sold 424 772 cars in total 2016 and it has several models and still makes profit. Koc does not have the balls to take this risk because he is used to get the non risk business. Remember the Bird (Kus) series

 

[UkroTurk]

I didnt understand this part. And source?

If you launched new automobile brand, it would mean you establish factory , dealers chain etc.
You would have marginal spends if you sold zero cars.
In order to meet to point of productivity , you have to produce more than 2 millions cars
Or you would increase your prices which couldn't be competitive
Competition and productivity!
I cant find now the Source, I remember from his interview about domestic car.

 

[SouI]

If you launched new automobile brand, it would mean you establish factory , dealers chain etc.
You would have marginal spends if you sold zero cars.
In order to meet to point of productivity , you have to produce more than 2 millions cars
Or you would increase your prices which couldn't be competitive
Competition and productivity!
I cant find now the Source, I remember from his interview about domestic car.

I think he exaggerated. The most sold car every year, VW Golf, is sold 1.000.000 worldwide.

All other cars are sold even less than that..

 

[UkroTurk]

Those numbers are obviously in tl...

If you set a new automobile, you have to be global player or you have to be supported by government.
But after those government supports may be a lot of political problems.

I think he exaggerated. The most sold car every year, VW Golf, is sold 1.000.000 worldwide.

All other cars are sold even less than that..

Amount of the all car model you have produced should be more than 2 millions he said.

Volvo sold 424 772 cars in total 2016 and it has several models and still makes profit. Koc does not have the balls to take this risk because he is used to get the non risk business. Remember the Bird (Kus) series

Really I don't have any clue about auto-industry, I have just imparted his words.

 

[SouI]

If you set a new automobile, you have to be global player or you have to be supported by government.
But after those government supports may be a lot of political problems.


Amount of the all car model you have produced should be more than 2 millions he said.

But that doesnt make any sense.. It should be per car model as they have wholely different and separate production lines and economic..!

 

[UkroTurk]

But that doesnt make any sense.. It should be per car model as they different whole different and separate production lines and economic..!

When I did MBA , We had a production management
Teacher told how car producers fucked their brains around to meet productivity.They have incredible production management systems and strategies which are being global problems.
OK guys no more answers from me

I even understated he had said 5-6 millions
http://www.ensonhaber.com/rahmi-koctan-yerli-otomobil-aciklamasi-2011-12-25.html

 

[SouI]

When I did MBA , We had a production management
Teacher told how car producers fucked their brains around to meet productivity.They have incredible production management systems and strategies which are being global problems.
OK guys no more answers from me

I even understated he had said 5-6 millions
http://www.ensonhaber.com/rahmi-koctan-yerli-otomobil-aciklamasi-2011-12-25.html

Apparently he has conflict of interests and thushe has gotten those numbers out of his old @ss.

 

[OguzSenturk]

I don't expect any government aid except forcing parliament to pass laws to make file works easier. They could maximum give 2-3 years of "no-tax" duration and that's it. They don't need any economic aid neither, all together those 5 companies are strong enough (didn't even mentioned that Qatar Army owns half of BMC, and if Qatar gets into project, there will not be any funding problem )

There is no problem to produce car and even constructing serial production line for it. The main problem is making one global brand. Creating new brands aren't easy. Vestel got some experiences with Venus phones, lets see how they will figure this creating brand job out.

 

[airmarshal]

Why does Turkey need a national or domestic vehicle?

Turkey could use existing, established brands and become a manufacturing hub. Just like as it is right now, Turkey has been exporting vehicles to Europe and other countries. Its exports have increased in the last 10 years.

The objective is revenue or national pride? For a brand, it takes a very long time to establish name and credibility. That part is more expensive than initial investments and planning.

 

[BATMAN]

Dont worry Turkey and Pakistan signed a free trade agreement, so there will be zero import duties cast upon this car!

Is it true! Can we import anything from Turkey without import duty?

 

[Beno]

The Welt article is stupid and has a grave mistake. They say there are no companies with experience in automotive in the consortium.

If you ask me why they have different opinions, well they are free to write what they want. Also Welt belongs to Axel Springer so I would not expect them to write anything positive about the country.

What Spiegel says is interesting and reminds me of Turkish smartphones, where all the components are sourced from other companies and in the end you have a design and a brand and call it domestic. But that would be disappointing.

What's the problem with Axel Springer?

 

[what]

What's the problem with Axel Springer?

Axel Springer wife is celebrating her birthdays with Merkel. Any Axel Springer publication is on CDU line.

 

[Constantinople]

I think it's not pure electric car maybe hybrid car

 

[UkroTurk]

Is it true! Can we import anything from Turkey without import duty?

No ! Free Trade agreement yields
mutual trade between countries without any limitations.
For example , after the agreement Turkey or Pakistan can't say don't export us plastic windows or refrigerators.
There won't be any limitations.
Customs still work.
When countries trade without any custom fees it is called Customs Union like in the EU.