5 Indian soldiers killed/Injured in retaliatory fire by Pakistan Army

[SQ8]

This conflict is our fate and destiny

Let us be realistic

I am being realistic: this conflict is the rise of hateful bigots to come out of their petty holes and express the worst that humanity has to offer.

The worst most despicable people in the planet love this conflict.

 

[Stephen Cohen]

BSF strikes back at Pakistan, smashes 27 posts and 18 watchtowers

http://www.deccanchronicle.com/nati...f-strikes-back-at-pakistan-smashes-posts.html

I am being realistic: this conflict is the rise of hateful bigots to come out of their petty holes and express the worst that humanity has to offer.

The worst most despicable people in the planet love this conflict.

We in India are quite OK with this conflict ;
simply because we have tried everything for peace
with Pakistan AND failed

If this is our destiny so be it

 

[Basel]

Perhaps it's time for Pak to activate NCC training once again as well setting defense committees in border areas including retired military personnel and young people.
Situation is critical and news of continuous Indian Mortar/Machine gun fire are coming since many days. I hope it's not too late and PML-N govt should open it's eyes and prepare people.

Do know about NCC training these days but have seen pics of PA training some students on net.

 

[SQ8]

BSF strikes back at Pakistan, smashes 27 posts and 18 watchtowers

http://www.deccanchronicle.com/nati...f-strikes-back-at-pakistan-smashes-posts.html




We in India are quite OK with this conflict ;
simply because we have tried everything for peace
with Pakistan AND failed

If this is our destiny so be it

So ipso facto, Indians are despicable people per you?

 

[Stephen Cohen]

So ipso facto, Indians are despicable people per you?

Do you blame India for this state of affairs

Because we blame Pakistan for it ; the whole thing started with Uri attack

Do know about NCC training these days but have seen pics of PA training some students on net.

The next few days will be Brutal on the LOC

With NSA Doval getting involved again ; he wants some good results

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

This conflict is our fate and destiny

Let us be realistic

you started it

 

[Basel]

Do you blame India for this state of affairs

Because we blame Pakistan for it ; the whole thing started with Uri attack



The next few days will be Brutal on the LOC

With NSA Doval getting involved again ; he wants some good results

Then be ready for brutal response too, because Pakistan is ready too face coward India.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

There are porous areas in the border due to terrain and also constant firing from pakistani areas when such areas are attempted to be fenced.

Some areas in the border and LOC remain easy to breach due to terrain, inadequate fencing, lack of electronic monitoring and lack of patrol frequency. So yes there is a big blame on the Indian side to not take adequate measure to protect the LOC/ IB.

As far as education on type of security cordon, it would be violation of security protocols to provide any related data which is susceptible to breach by the "Non State Actors", so neither will the GoI or any sane minded Indian would educate anyone type of countermeasures in the terrorism affected areas.

As far as base attacks are involved they are often breached exactly as PAF Minhas Base or PN'S Mehran Base, or Camp Bastion attack have been perpetrated. It shouldn't be a surprise that larger sized bases always have vulnerabilities that are associated with it's location, terrain, and security protocols.

may i direct a counter question to you, where do the "Kashmiri Mujhahideen" get their sat phones, rations, type 56's, AKM's, RPK's, chinese clone Pso 1 scopes, 7.62x 39 ammunition, PoF marked hand grenades from?

sir I lived and served in that area..
the water currents are very strong and the water is ice cold even in summer.. even if someone with all the gear can survive the currents .. he will be frozen and dead due to hypothermia. good swimmers have drowned in these rivers away from LoC even when they were not trying to attack Indian posts.

the Pak Afghan badlands is far more porous and rugged but we are not allowed to use your explanation of porous and there is another thing.. if we do set up posts they are attacked by Afghan forces (by NATO in the past).. which is just another bitching subject. with your reasons and explanations vs mine.

This conflict is our fate and destiny

Let us be realistic

fate and destiny can change if there is a will. there were good hopes during Musharraf's time but that chance is lost due to War on terror..which just changed the scene. I still believe that people on either side are normal , humane , forgiving and agreeable despite all the warmongering and ranting on both sides

believe me .. we will change by accepting our own wrongs & appropriating the other side too.. antagonising and condescending each other has not worked. Yes .. I might not live to see it but I know that Indian rivals are as good or bad as I am so we will find a common ground. by then we will mourn the needless blood spilt on both sides.

 

[Stephen Cohen]

fate and destiny can change if there is a will. there were good hopes during Musharraf's time but that chance is lost due to War on terror..which just changed the scene. I still believe that people on either side are normal , humane , forgiving and agreeable despite all the warmongering and ranting on both sides

believe me .. we will change by accepting our own wrongs & appropriating the other side too.. antagonising and condescending each other has not worked. Yes .. I might not live to see it but I know that Indian rivals are as good or bad as I am so we will find a common ground. by then we will mourn the needless blood spilt on both sides.

India has tried enough for peace ; If we get Pathankot One week after Our PM
goes to Lahore ; what message is being sent from your side

We are not at fault and also we dont feel guilty about this conflict

It is like a last resort for us

In Hindsight the Man Mohan Singh policy of restraint is paying dividends NOW

No country in the world blames us for current escalation

When Government of Pakistan approached The US NSA against Indian
aggression the cryptic response from USA was " Well You had it coming "

 

[Irfan Baloch]

India has tried enough for peace ; If we get Pathankot One week after Our PM
goes to Lahore ; what message is being sent from your side
"

as said we will continue to rant and complain. for every single complaint from one side .. the other will have his/ her own list of complaints.

so as I concluded
not in my life time.. but we will see end of hostilities and morbid Bi-tching

 

[SQ8]

Do you blame India for this state of affairs

Because we blame Pakistan for it ; the whole thing started with Uri attack

Uri Attack?
Your kith and kin have been spewing hatred and promoting mass murder of Pakistanis since they started joining in packs from 2010.

 

[Stephen Cohen]

Uri Attack?
Your kith and kin have been spewing hatred and promoting mass murder of Pakistanis since they started joining in packs from 2010.

By stating this date 2010 -- does this ring a bell -- Why around this time

Indians became INTERESTED in Pakistan and Pakistani thinking ; Pakistani ideology
ONLY after 26/ 11

Before that we only thought of Pakistan as interested in Kashmir

That is how we looked at the kargil war

Infact we LIKED General Musharraf and how he started the peace process after Kargil
and came to India

26/11 changed everything

Now for us Pakistanis are like this

Look at those eyes ; you see love in them

 

[SQ8]

So in other words, you are a hateful narrow minded bigot who only sees Pakistanis as murderers?
Because I dont you here in that case.

There is no room for hateful petty people on PDF from India; as has been demonstrated time and time again, we prefer the best of society from India.. not the filth from India.

 

[Stephen Cohen]

So in other words, you are a hateful narrow minded bigot who only sees Pakistanis as murderers?
Because I dont you here in that case.

Has Pakistan changed its attitude towards India after 26/ 11

Your countrymen celebrate this event today

Pakistan started this conflict ; we are only retaliating

 

[SQ8]

Has Pakistan changed its attitude towards India after 26/ 11

Your countrymen celebrate this event today

Pakistan started this conflict ; we are only retaliating

Dude you are just passing excuses to your own petty hatred as you fume on your pc. I think from now on Ill just ban you from any Pakistani thread I see you in as you have nothing to contribute besides hatred.