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FuturePAF said:
Exactly, there are places that are great and others they call Chiraq.
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Let's compare that city he is talking about to the older Chicago.
As again this is showing how the flight of the middle class (and higher) from older dense multi-family cities to newer cities/towns of mostly single-family homes is turning older cities into wastelands.
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So in decline since the 1950's..the usual standard case of an old city being killed by the 1950's shift to suburbanism in the US. BTW note is was not because of a sudden flow of Black Americans into cities that happened in the late 1960's as they were simply moving into empty units that were already being vacated a decade before.

What`s happening to thousands of abandoned Chicago houses? Homeowners hide, houses crumble​


BTW the above video should convince people all this talk about cities having no room for new housing is complete 100% bullsh*t. Most older cities have tons of space. They simply don't want to spend money on housing or more importantly don't want to give property to developers for FREE so they can build anew at a minimized cost as an incentive. So nothing gets done year after year after year and the city deteriorates.

There's talk of how the US needs x amount for infrastructure fixes..well a lot of it is in places like Chicago...not in places like Naperville.

Chicago Demographics - Get Current Census Data for Chicago, IL

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Median Income​

In 2021, the median household income of Chicago households was $65,781.
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Let's compare it to the city of Naperville.. I found a great video that explains many of the points I have brought up in past threads.

Naperville Demographics - Get Current Census Data for Naperville, IL

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Median Income​

In 2021, the median household income of Naperville households was $135,772.
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Naperville, Illinois - Wikipedia

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Naperville (/ˈneɪpərˌvɪl/ NAY-pər-vil) is a city within the Chicago Metropolitan Area in DuPage and Will counties in the U.S. state of Illinois.
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People on PDF seem to like to repeatedly comment that places like this are "unsustainable".

oh and look what Naperville did...it attracted businesses (not scared them away like Chicago does)


Here's another classic example of BS just posted today for a city bordering Boston.
There is stuff like this all over the place...

https://www.reddit.com/r/Somerville/comments/1767dd6
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For a decade and a half, the onetime grocery store in Somerville’s Winter Hill neighborhood has sat vacant along Broadway.
Peer through the window and you’d see a scene like something from a post-apocalyptic movie; a place neighbors once roamed with shopping carts.
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The imprint of the words “Star Market,” where letters once were, are still visible on the outside of the building.

Residents have long considered it a blight on the neighborhood, and have grown antsy about the wasted potential of such a large plot of land in an increasingly in-demand area.
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But apparently the problem is not with old cities with abandoned properties..it's those horrible new cities and towns like Naperville (who BTW built most of the new housing in the US since the 1950's). They apparently should be the ones closing their parks and demolishing their well-kept new homes to put up multifamily units because old cities claim they don't have any room. Meanwhile cities like Chicago are filled with 100+ year old multi-family housing that nobody (other than the desperate) wants to live in anymore and nobody wants to spend the money to fix or tear down.

But if you notice towns like Naperville upgrade their housing
 
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Hamartia Antidote said:
Let's compare that city he is talking about to the older Chicago.
As again this is showing how the flight of the middle class (and higher) from older dense multi-family cities to newer cities of mostly single-family homes is turning older cities into wastelands.
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What`s happening to thousands of abandoned Chicago houses? Homeowners hide, houses crumble​


BTW the above video should convince people all this talk about cities having no room for new housing is complete 100% bullsh*t. Most older cities have tons of space. They simply don't want to spend money on housing or more importantly don't want to give property to developers for FREE so they can build anew at a minimized cost as an incentive. So nothing gets done year after year after year and the city deteriorates.

There's talk of how the US needs x amount for infrastructure fixes..well a lot of it is in places like Chicago...not in places like Naperville.

Chicago Demographics - Get Current Census Data for Chicago, IL

Need Chicago demographics? Get current population, race, age, income & poverty statistics for Chicago, IL from the US Census Bureau.
www.illinois-demographics.com



Naperville Demographics - Get Current Census Data for Naperville, IL

Need Naperville demographics? Get current population, race, age, income & poverty statistics for Naperville, IL from the US Census Bureau.
www.illinois-demographics.com

en.wikipedia.org

Naperville, Illinois - Wikipedia

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People on PDF seem to like to repeatedly comment that places like this are "unsustainable".

oh and look what what Naperville did.


Here's another classic example of BS just posted today for a city bordering Boston.
There is stuff like this all over the place...

https://www.reddit.com/r/Somerville/comments/1767dd6
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But apparently the problem is not with old cities with abandoned properties..it's those horrible new cities and towns like Naperville who should be closing their parks and demolishing their well-kept homes to put up multifamily units because the older cities don't have any room.
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NAPERVILLE is nice man
Got tonnes of yindians there. I am not sure if Walmart is still there.
 

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