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What the Fu(k?Don't you think with these dirty lies,you just humiliate yourself more and more?
After Indonesia and Pakistan,Iran sends largest numbers of pilgrims to Mecca.However,it's still none of your business were we send pilgrims.
Btw,It's really funny for me,some Pakistanis sell themselves to each country they migrate.Some to KSA,some To UAE,some to Turkey,some to USA and so on.I've always wondered,how cheap you guys are.
No offense to 'true' Pakistani brothers.
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are big muscular and aged up to 50 if i may say according to the video you provided previously
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Syrian Rebels Say Hostages Are Iranian Guards
BEIRUT, Lebanon — Syrian rebels took responsibility on Sunday for the kidnapping of 48 Iranians in Damascus a day earlier, but the rebels insisted that their captives were members of Iran’s elite Revolutionary Guard, not religious pilgrims as Iran’s official news agency had reported.
“They are Iranian thugs who were in Damascus for a field reconnaissance mission,” said a rebel leader, in a video that purportedly showed the captives, sitting calmly behind armed Syrian fighters. The rebels said in the video that at least one Iranian was caught with an identification card for the Revolutionary Guard and certificates for carrying weapons — at which point the man identified by the rebels stood up to show some paperwork.
The identities and motives of the captives could not be independently verified, and Iran has insisted that they were innocent pilgrims returning from a Shiite shrine on the southern edge of Damascus.
For the rebels, the hostages offered an opportunity to broadcast their belief that the government of President Bashar al-Assad was on its way out and to argue that Iran and other foreign supporters of the Syrian government should reconsider their allegiances. In the video, first shown on the Al Arabiya television network, which is owned by Saudi Arabia, a supporter of the rebel cause, the rebels insisted that the Assad government was “inevitably short-lived.”
The rebels also warned that Iranians who helped the Assad government would face the same fate: they will end up “dead or as hostages.”
Diplomatic efforts to resolve the crisis also continued on Sunday. In Malawi, a State Department spokeswoman, Victoria Nuland, said Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton would go to Istanbul next weekend to discuss the Syrian crisis with the Turkish government.
“Secretary Clinton goes to Istanbul for bilateral consultations with the Turkish government on Syria as well as to cover other timely issues," Ms. Victoria Nuland said, according to Reuters.
The developments came on a day when fighting was reported throughout the Syria. Activists in Damascus said that the neighborhood of Tadamon, near Syria’s largest Palestinian camp, remained under attack. The bodies of rebel fighters along with some women and children, they said, were scattered throughout the area but they could not be retrieved because the Syrian Army had set up snipers who fired at anyone trying to reach the dead.
Rebels and activists also reported raids in Homs and overnight fighting in Aleppo, suggesting — along with the kidnapping — that Syria’s civil conflict is expanding and intensifying as new tactics, players and areas are drawn into the battle for control.
Over the last week, attacks and counterattacks have been reported in at least half a dozen Syrian cities and towns, including the country’s largest Palestinian camp, in Damascus, the capital. For the first time, rebels have also used tanks they have seized, while the Syrian military has begun firing from jets in Aleppo, the country’s largest city and commercial center. Analysts have said the government’s helicopters are showing signs of wear.
It has been two weeks since the fighting for Aleppo started. Rebel leaders have said repeatedly that they hope to make the city a safe haven and a headquarters for their efforts throughout the country. One opposition leader in London said last week that he was already setting up a transitional government that would make “liberated” Aleppo its capital.
But in a conflict in which momentum swings wildly and progress is difficult to ascertain, the rebels have yet to land a knockout blow. “It’s a guerrilla war,” Col. Malik al-Kurdi, deputy commander for the Free Syrian Army, said in an interview.
So far, especially in Aleppo, that means the rebels advance and retreat, gain territory, give it up, hide among the population, and then return again for another fight. This has already occurred several times in Aleppo, and the battle over the television station offers yet another example of the current way of war in Syria.
Rebels and activists inside the city said the fighting for the complex began late Friday with a rebel assault. “My house overlooks the buildings, and I could see the clashes from my rooftop,” said Tammam Hazem, an activist. “Three bullets hit our house.”
Rebels have made government buildings a priority in Aleppo. They have seized several police stations in contested neighborhoods, knocking out a base for government troops and supporters. And their initial raid on the television station, a strategic target because it is on a high hill but also symbolic and functional for any effort to set up a local rebel government, appeared to be successful.
“Our fighters got into the TV station buildings,” said Abu Hamza, one of the rebels in Aleppo, using a nickname that means “father of Hamza.” “I was there blocking the way, trying to keep out the thugs and state security guys who would try to get in.” But he and others said the government response was swift and typical: helicopters began firing from the air.
“We couldn’t handle the chopper attacks,” Abu Hamza said. “We lost about seven fighters.” He added, “We ran out of ammunition.”
So the rebels retreated to a nearby neighborhood, and on Saturday afternoon, Abu Hamza said they were looking for another opportunity. “Our fighters are still there, around the buildings,” he said. “We didn’t pull out. I went to get supplies, but I’m going back.”
Similar scenes have been described throughout Damascus, where fighting has surged again in what some people on Twitter are describing as the “Damascus volcano Part 2.”
Rebels and activists said the focus for both sides had become Tadamon, a rebel-controlled area adjacent to the country’s largest Palestinian neighborhood. Tadamon recently became the target of an all-out assault by government troops. The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights reported that mortars, helicopters and armored vehicles were being used against the rebels, and that the rebels had destroyed at least four armored vehicles in the neighborhood so far.
Abu Omar, a local battalion chief for the rebels, said his fighters had pulled back Saturday afternoon because they were waiting for allies to send mortars. He said many of his fighters had sneaked into Yarmouk, the Palestinian neighborhood next door, where shelling killed 20 people Thursday night. As a result of that attack, he said, more Palestinians are trying to help.
“They’re working undercover,” he said. “They’re helping the brigades find safe locations.”
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BEIRUT, Lebanon — Syrian rebels took responsibility on Sunday for the kidnapping of 48 Iranians in Damascus a day earlier, but the rebels insisted that their captives were members of Iran’s elite Revolutionary Guard, not religious pilgrims as Iran’s official news agency had reported.
“They are Iranian thugs who were in Damascus for a field reconnaissance mission,” said a rebel leader, in a video that purportedly showed the captives, sitting calmly behind armed Syrian fighters. The rebels said in the video that at least one Iranian was caught with an identification card for the Revolutionary Guard and certificates for carrying weapons — at which point the man identified by the rebels stood up to show some paperwork.
The identities and motives of the captives could not be independently verified, and Iran has insisted that they were innocent pilgrims returning from a Shiite shrine on the southern edge of Damascus.
For the rebels, the hostages offered an opportunity to broadcast their belief that the government of President Bashar al-Assad was on its way out and to argue that Iran and other foreign supporters of the Syrian government should reconsider their allegiances. In the video, first shown on the Al Arabiya television network, which is owned by Saudi Arabia, a supporter of the rebel cause, the rebels insisted that the Assad government was “inevitably short-lived.”
The rebels also warned that Iranians who helped the Assad government would face the same fate: they will end up “dead or as hostages.”
Diplomatic efforts to resolve the crisis also continued on Sunday. In Malawi, a State Department spokeswoman, Victoria Nuland, said Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton would go to Istanbul next weekend to discuss the Syrian crisis with the Turkish government.
“Secretary Clinton goes to Istanbul for bilateral consultations with the Turkish government on Syria as well as to cover other timely issues," Ms. Victoria Nuland said, according to Reuters.
The developments came on a day when fighting was reported throughout the Syria. Activists in Damascus said that the neighborhood of Tadamon, near Syria’s largest Palestinian camp, remained under attack. The bodies of rebel fighters along with some women and children, they said, were scattered throughout the area but they could not be retrieved because the Syrian Army had set up snipers who fired at anyone trying to reach the dead.
Rebels and activists also reported raids in Homs and overnight fighting in Aleppo, suggesting — along with the kidnapping — that Syria’s civil conflict is expanding and intensifying as new tactics, players and areas are drawn into the battle for control.
Over the last week, attacks and counterattacks have been reported in at least half a dozen Syrian cities and towns, including the country’s largest Palestinian camp, in Damascus, the capital. For the first time, rebels have also used tanks they have seized, while the Syrian military has begun firing from jets in Aleppo, the country’s largest city and commercial center. Analysts have said the government’s helicopters are showing signs of wear.
It has been two weeks since the fighting for Aleppo started. Rebel leaders have said repeatedly that they hope to make the city a safe haven and a headquarters for their efforts throughout the country. One opposition leader in London said last week that he was already setting up a transitional government that would make “liberated” Aleppo its capital.
But in a conflict in which momentum swings wildly and progress is difficult to ascertain, the rebels have yet to land a knockout blow. “It’s a guerrilla war,” Col. Malik al-Kurdi, deputy commander for the Free Syrian Army, said in an interview.
So far, especially in Aleppo, that means the rebels advance and retreat, gain territory, give it up, hide among the population, and then return again for another fight. This has already occurred several times in Aleppo, and the battle over the television station offers yet another example of the current way of war in Syria.
Rebels and activists inside the city said the fighting for the complex began late Friday with a rebel assault. “My house overlooks the buildings, and I could see the clashes from my rooftop,” said Tammam Hazem, an activist. “Three bullets hit our house.”
Rebels have made government buildings a priority in Aleppo. They have seized several police stations in contested neighborhoods, knocking out a base for government troops and supporters. And their initial raid on the television station, a strategic target because it is on a high hill but also symbolic and functional for any effort to set up a local rebel government, appeared to be successful.
“Our fighters got into the TV station buildings,” said Abu Hamza, one of the rebels in Aleppo, using a nickname that means “father of Hamza.” “I was there blocking the way, trying to keep out the thugs and state security guys who would try to get in.” But he and others said the government response was swift and typical: helicopters began firing from the air.
“We couldn’t handle the chopper attacks,” Abu Hamza said. “We lost about seven fighters.” He added, “We ran out of ammunition.”
So the rebels retreated to a nearby neighborhood, and on Saturday afternoon, Abu Hamza said they were looking for another opportunity. “Our fighters are still there, around the buildings,” he said. “We didn’t pull out. I went to get supplies, but I’m going back.”
Similar scenes have been described throughout Damascus, where fighting has surged again in what some people on Twitter are describing as the “Damascus volcano Part 2.”
Rebels and activists said the focus for both sides had become Tadamon, a rebel-controlled area adjacent to the country’s largest Palestinian neighborhood. Tadamon recently became the target of an all-out assault by government troops. The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights reported that mortars, helicopters and armored vehicles were being used against the rebels, and that the rebels had destroyed at least four armored vehicles in the neighborhood so far.
Abu Omar, a local battalion chief for the rebels, said his fighters had pulled back Saturday afternoon because they were waiting for allies to send mortars. He said many of his fighters had sneaked into Yarmouk, the Palestinian neighborhood next door, where shelling killed 20 people Thursday night. As a result of that attack, he said, more Palestinians are trying to help.
“They’re working undercover,” he said. “They’re helping the brigades find safe locations.”
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No one doubts that Iranian & Iraqi shies are helping their brother Al-Assad and his clan in Syria. It is highly likely that the captured Men are Iranian revolutionary Guards helping Shabiha to kill Syrian opposition figures. Few days back some militants of Moqtada Al-Sadr were also killed in Aleppo .
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^^ LMAO. If they were Pasdaran members they would fight to death instead of getting captured. They are stupid religious people who dont know consequences of travelling to dangerous zones. I hope their stupidness doesnt cost them their lifes
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Oh really? do you really think that IRGC soldiers will give up that easily? if they were IRGC soldiers they would be SABERIN forces that are one the most trained forces of world , they killed 500 terrorists in a single operation with only 50 martyr while the special forces give 4-5 kill to kill 1 partisan .......
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The Iranians in Damascus!
05/08/2012
By Tariq Alhomayed
Tariq Alhomayed is the Editor-in-Chief of Asharq Al-Awsat, the youngest person to be appointed that position. Mr. Alhomayed has an acclaimed and distinguished career as a Journalist and has held many key positions in the field including; Assistant Editor-in-Chief of Asharq Al-Awsat, Managing Editor of Asharq Al-Awsat in Saudi Arabia, Head of Asharq Al-Awsat Newspaper's Bureau-Jeddah, Correspondent for Al - Madina Newspaper in Washington D.C. from 1998 to Aug 2000. Mr. Alhomyed has been a guest analyst and commentator on numerous news and current affair programs including: the BBC, German TV, Al Arabiya, Al- Hurra, LBC and the acclaimed Imad Lives four-part series on terrorism and reformation in Saudi Arabia. He is also the first Journalist to conduct an interview with Osama Bin Ladin's Mother. Mr. Alhomayed holds a BA degree in Media studies from King Abdul Aziz University in Jeddah, and has also completed his Introductory courses towards a Masters degree from George Washington University in Washington D.C. He is based in London.
At a time when a Syrian regime source declared that al-Assads forces had taken complete control over the capital Damascus, an official in the Iranian embassy in Damascus announced that 48 Iranians had been kidnapped in the city, so what does this mean the news that al-Assads forces control Damascus, and the abduction of Iranians?
The two news items reveal, in all simplicity, a lack of credibility for both the al-Assad and the Iranian regimes. The al-Assad regime is incapable of controlling Damascus, and the Iranians are not being truthful when they say that they do not have a hand in what is happening in Syria. Tehran is openly involved in supporting al-Assad, and no one can believe that the abducted Iranians were visiting what was said to be a Shiite shrine, as the Iranian official announced, at a time when Syria is witnessing armed conflict between the rebels and the regime, especially ongoing armed clashes in Damascus. How could anyone believe that the Iranians would travel at this particular time to visit these shrines? When we take into account the assassination of a security official at the Iranian embassy in Damascus a few days ago, not to mention the arrest of a Lebanese Shiite group in Syria said to be affiliated to Hezbollah, this is not believable at all.
Therefore, the announcement of 48 Iranians being abducted in Damascus at the same time as an al-Assad official declares the regimes full control over the capital means that the Syrian regime is still hiding the truth. Reality dictates that al-Assad is facing serious difficulties in imposing his control over the capital Damascus, not to mention Aleppo and the rest of the Syrian cities. Hence we can understand the announcement of the upcoming visit of the Secretary of Irans Supreme National Security Council, Saeed Jalili, to the Lebanese capital Beirut on Monday, where it is said he will hold a crisis meeting, and without doubt Jalili will discuss his countrys crisis and predicament as the al-Assad regime in Syria teeters on the brink.
Therefore, the implications of these two news items are very important, they tell us al-Assad is unable to impose his control on Damascus, and that Iranian involvement in Syria has become even clearer, no matter how hard the al-Assad regime and the Iranians try to deny it, or attempt to divert attention away by warning the Arabs, and others, of the consequences of intervening in Syrias affairs.
The facts today tell us that Iran is intervening in Syrias affairs, and supporting al-Assads repression of the unarmed Syrians. The Arabs and the international community are seeking to intervene to save the Syrians from the al-Assad killing machine, which has been relentless ever since the outbreak of the revolution nearly 17 months ago, fuelled by Russian and Iranian weaponry. Meanwhile, Irans intervention in Syria has sectarian motives, in order to enable Iran and its agents in the region to continue to export the Khomeini Revolution, and penetrate further in order to expand Iranian influence at the expense of Arab interests. The story in Syria is not the story of a proxy war as alleged by some, including UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon, rather it is a story of people rising up in search of dignity and security, against a criminal regime that will do anything to stay in power, including killing its own people and destroying the country with blatant Iranian support.
05/08/2012
By Tariq Alhomayed
Tariq Alhomayed is the Editor-in-Chief of Asharq Al-Awsat, the youngest person to be appointed that position. Mr. Alhomayed has an acclaimed and distinguished career as a Journalist and has held many key positions in the field including; Assistant Editor-in-Chief of Asharq Al-Awsat, Managing Editor of Asharq Al-Awsat in Saudi Arabia, Head of Asharq Al-Awsat Newspaper's Bureau-Jeddah, Correspondent for Al - Madina Newspaper in Washington D.C. from 1998 to Aug 2000. Mr. Alhomyed has been a guest analyst and commentator on numerous news and current affair programs including: the BBC, German TV, Al Arabiya, Al- Hurra, LBC and the acclaimed Imad Lives four-part series on terrorism and reformation in Saudi Arabia. He is also the first Journalist to conduct an interview with Osama Bin Ladin's Mother. Mr. Alhomayed holds a BA degree in Media studies from King Abdul Aziz University in Jeddah, and has also completed his Introductory courses towards a Masters degree from George Washington University in Washington D.C. He is based in London.
At a time when a Syrian regime source declared that al-Assads forces had taken complete control over the capital Damascus, an official in the Iranian embassy in Damascus announced that 48 Iranians had been kidnapped in the city, so what does this mean the news that al-Assads forces control Damascus, and the abduction of Iranians?
The two news items reveal, in all simplicity, a lack of credibility for both the al-Assad and the Iranian regimes. The al-Assad regime is incapable of controlling Damascus, and the Iranians are not being truthful when they say that they do not have a hand in what is happening in Syria. Tehran is openly involved in supporting al-Assad, and no one can believe that the abducted Iranians were visiting what was said to be a Shiite shrine, as the Iranian official announced, at a time when Syria is witnessing armed conflict between the rebels and the regime, especially ongoing armed clashes in Damascus. How could anyone believe that the Iranians would travel at this particular time to visit these shrines? When we take into account the assassination of a security official at the Iranian embassy in Damascus a few days ago, not to mention the arrest of a Lebanese Shiite group in Syria said to be affiliated to Hezbollah, this is not believable at all.
Therefore, the announcement of 48 Iranians being abducted in Damascus at the same time as an al-Assad official declares the regimes full control over the capital means that the Syrian regime is still hiding the truth. Reality dictates that al-Assad is facing serious difficulties in imposing his control over the capital Damascus, not to mention Aleppo and the rest of the Syrian cities. Hence we can understand the announcement of the upcoming visit of the Secretary of Irans Supreme National Security Council, Saeed Jalili, to the Lebanese capital Beirut on Monday, where it is said he will hold a crisis meeting, and without doubt Jalili will discuss his countrys crisis and predicament as the al-Assad regime in Syria teeters on the brink.
Therefore, the implications of these two news items are very important, they tell us al-Assad is unable to impose his control on Damascus, and that Iranian involvement in Syria has become even clearer, no matter how hard the al-Assad regime and the Iranians try to deny it, or attempt to divert attention away by warning the Arabs, and others, of the consequences of intervening in Syrias affairs.
The facts today tell us that Iran is intervening in Syrias affairs, and supporting al-Assads repression of the unarmed Syrians. The Arabs and the international community are seeking to intervene to save the Syrians from the al-Assad killing machine, which has been relentless ever since the outbreak of the revolution nearly 17 months ago, fuelled by Russian and Iranian weaponry. Meanwhile, Irans intervention in Syria has sectarian motives, in order to enable Iran and its agents in the region to continue to export the Khomeini Revolution, and penetrate further in order to expand Iranian influence at the expense of Arab interests. The story in Syria is not the story of a proxy war as alleged by some, including UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon, rather it is a story of people rising up in search of dignity and security, against a criminal regime that will do anything to stay in power, including killing its own people and destroying the country with blatant Iranian support.
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How could anyone believe? Just look at when Iraq was one big shithole. Still Iranian pilgrims visited the country each year and faced all kinds of terrorist attacks against them. I don't know of the Iranians who are kidnapped in Syria are IRGC fighters or not, but the argument that no one will ever go on pilgrimage in times of armed conflict doesn't count for Iranians.
