4 Killed in Violence in Saudi Arabia

[Irfan Baloch]

I am so sick and tired of people falsifying history and spreading lies and not look twice at the facts I represented throughout my time being a member here. As a kid being half Turkish I also hated Al-Saud for betraying ottoman. But later as I read from unbiased sources and put 2 and 2 together I found out the truth. I spent close to 6 years doing nothing but study the history of this land in Arabic English and Turkish to find exactly what happened and all versions disagree with each other for the most part.

I implore people to stop being a tool of propaganda and do the same. All Mullahs in either side are liars all western sources have a propaganda element to it. Read in an unbiased way and check your sources. This propaganda war I am afraid is too late to stop and only total war will follow and complete destruction. As we see today the glory of the west that it had for the past 300 years is like an old man in it's death bed it must take an elexir of life from somewhere. And that is by destroying all the opposition to this glory and we are that opposition. One side calling the other "puppets" the other side calling the other "traitors and liars" and thus divide and conqure is being implemented flawlessly. If I was western reading this forum I would be so proud of my people.

good

please lead by example and rise above the rest by being factual and leaving personal love and hate and emotions aside
people will benifit and learn from your 2 and 2 as well.

just dont follow the Western mindset here where they will see any incident involving a Muslim as terrorism attack, be it a petty street fight, argument over taxi fare or domestic disturbance etc.


SO.... everybody please

just because Saudi Shia are involved in the incident it doesn’t has to be an Iranian hand in it. just for being human and fellow Saudis, give them a benefit of independent thinkers and having their say and their personal grievances? is it too hard to ask?


I recall a story dating back to somewhere 2 or 3 months after 9/11, of a Pakistani cab driver in New York who saved a woman from a savage dog who was mauling her. He killed the dog and called for help. The local news spread and he was being praised for his bravery and saving a woman, but behold, once it transpired that he was a Muslim then the whole mood changed and both the web and the news lines changed into “a terrorist killed a poor dog”.

Not sure if anyone of you guys recall that, I tried to look it up but cant find that news piece but it was very hot back then and the poor chap was the target of hatred and condemnation from animal rights to the humanists and evangelic Christians.

 

[Hussein]

I am so sick and tired of people falsifying history and spreading lies and not look twice at the facts I represented throughout my time being a member here. As a kid being half Turkish I also hated Al-Saud for betraying ottoman. But later as I read from unbiased sources and put 2 and 2 together I found out the truth. I spent close to 6 years doing nothing but study the history of this land in Arabic English and Turkish to find exactly what happened and all versions disagree with each other for the most part.

I implore people to stop being a tool of propaganda and do the same. All Mullahs in either side are liars all western sources have a propaganda element to it. Read in an unbiased way and check your sources. This propaganda war I am afraid is too late to stop and only total war will follow and complete destruction. As we see today the glory of the west that it had for the past 300 years is like an old man in it's death bed it must take an elexir of life from somewhere. And that is by destroying all the opposition to this glory and we are that opposition. One side calling the other "puppets" the other side calling the other "traitors and liars" and thus divide and conqure is being implemented flawlessly. If I was western reading this forum I would be so proud of my people.

i appreciate your education
don't put all the mullahs in the same bag. my wife is from an ayatollah family and his father is the best person i ever knew on earth: full of kindness, helping everyone , not caring from origins: arabs or afghans or persians, and he never insulted anyone or any country. and he was just caring about religion so much he didn't use religion to hate anyone or anything.
yes some mullahs are good persons. some are bad. that's human nature...

the fact is in media , in the propaganda machine and the bunch of all friends of power, there are some sick guys and very shameful persons. don't see them as reflecting Islam in Iran or Iranians. We live in Iran under a totalitarism with a no free press, fake elections , corrupted economy
but still with all this Iranians keep finding the way to live fine ... our nature is more peaceful and looking for right solutions than you think.
as i already explained the so much words against us make us feel on the nerves. i wish you could understand that when you have a so great past and a population so educated.. westerns see you as middle age people. yeah i guess you know what i am speaking about
take care mosa

 

[Doctor09]

after seeing your fights i have a simple example for you which not only describes our past fights but our current fights also:
if there are 3 persons , 1st is shia , 2nd is sunni and 3rd is their common enemy and all have knives in their hands and want to kill each other . you know what will shia and sunni do ? one of these two(shia or sunni) will join hand with their common enemy and try to kill one of them(shia or sunni) and when they killed one then the remaining shia or sunni will be killed by that enemy
End result : they die because of their hate with each other and the winner is their enemy
Choice is yours guys .. you want to live or commit suicide

 

[Secur]

I apologize for the rude and sarcastic tone i have used here in my posts previously ... I am sick and tired of seeing Muslims fight with each other calling each other " Infidels " and blaming other's respective Govt's for their mishaps and problems ... Please guys stop this Sunni Shia thing ... We are all muslims ... By fighting like this , we are only fulfilling the Western goal of " Divide and Conquer " in which they are already successful to an extent ...

 

[PERSIAN GOD KING]

good

please lead by example and rise above the rest by being factual and leaving personal love and hate and emotions aside
people will benifit and learn from your 2 and 2 as well.

just dont follow the Western mindset here where they will see any incident involving a Muslim as terrorism attack, be it a petty street fight, argument over taxi fare or domestic disturbance etc.


SO.... everybody please

just because Saudi Shia are involved in the incident it doesn’t has to be an Iranian hand in it. just for being human and fellow Saudis, give them a benefit of independent thinkers and having their say and their personal grievances? is it too hard to ask?


I recall a story dating back to somewhere 2 or 3 months after 9/11, of a Pakistani cab driver in New York who saved a woman from a savage dog who was mauling her. He killed the dog and called for help. The local news spread and he was being praised for his bravery and saving a woman, but behold, once it transpired that he was a Muslim then the whole mood changed and both the web and the news lines changed into “a terrorist killed a poor dog”.

Not sure if anyone of you guys recall that, I tried to look it up but cant find that news piece but it was very hot back then and the poor chap was the target of hatred and condemnation from animal rights to the humanists and evangelic Christians.

You put a lot of emotion in your post, but unforunatally your history of anti Iran comment does not support the fact you are searching for peace, you along with sombozo,salman108,TARIQ,BATMAN and so on, You may be nice for one day but next day you're a troll, and when people ask for reason you blame on "some Iranian" who been making you angry, i mean are you 5 years old? why make more enemies just because your been insulted by one person. I think you should act in a way that relects your true self, and not act in a way to make you seem like a perosn you're not. I am not saying your a bad person, but you need to prove you want friendship.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

You put a lot of emotion in your post, but unforunatally your history of anti Iran comment does not support the fact you are searching for peace, you along with sombozo,salman108,TARIQ,BATMAN and so on, You may be nice for one day but next day you're a troll, and when people ask for reason you blame on "some Iranian" who been making you angry, i mean are you 5 years old? why make more enemies just because your been insulted by one person. I think you should act in a way that relects your true self, and not act in a way to make you seem like a perosn you're not. I am not saying your a bad person, but you need to prove you want friendship.

my apologies for offending you.
Second please show me where I have made anti-Shia, Anti Iran comments so that either.

1. I take my words back in each case and apologise if they were racist,& sectarian in anyway.
2. explain myself if I think those apparently anti-Iranian comments were not out of hatred but were criticism based on whatever subject I was addressing,

I will wait for your reply and keep reminding you because you have put me on the spotlight

Thanks.

 

[somebozo]

Blaming Iran the usual scape goat..a lot of people are now sick with the Sudairi 7-ners and hereditary monarchy, religious police and unemployment and want to live free like normal human beings.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

I apologize for the rude and sarcastic tone i have used here in my posts previously ... I am sick and tired of seeing Muslims fight with each other calling each other " Infidels " and blaming other's respective Govt's for their mishaps and problems ... Please guys stop this Sunni Shia thing ... We are all muslims ... By fighting like this , we are only fulfilling the Western goal of " Divide and Conquer " in which they are already successful to an extent ...

please dont blame the west

we are very good at doing this job ourselves with or without the help of the West or Zionists etc

 

[BATMAN]

I apologize for the rude and sarcastic tone i have used here in my posts previously ... I am sick and tired of seeing Muslims fight with each other calling each other " Infidels " and blaming other's respective Govt's for their mishaps and problems ... Please guys stop this Sunni Shia thing ... We are all muslims ... By fighting like this , we are only fulfilling the Western goal of " Divide and Conquer " in which they are already successful to an extent ...

Explain the trishul as your avatar?

How is it related Shism?

 

[Secur]

Explain the trishul as your avatar?

How is it related Shism?

Do i need to really ?
Dude , thats the mark of Psychology not some sort of trishul ... Search in google pics ...

 

[Secur]

please dont blame the west

we are very good at doing this job ourselves with or without the help of the West or Zionists etc

Well initiated by them but worked upon to success by our own people ... Is that better bro ? ... Dad always tells me that it may be foreign agents of Intelligence services planning acts of terrorism in Pakistan but in the end its our own people who blow themselves up ... Sad reality

 

[Irfan Baloch]

I am not saying your a bad person, but you need to prove you want friendship.

I am not asking for much either

re my last post, please come back with your answers so that I can "prove my friendship"
otherwise take your words back

thanks

 

[TARIQ BN ZIYAAD]

You put a lot of emotion in your post, but unforunatally your history of anti Iran comment does not support the fact you are searching for peace, you along with sombozo,salman108,TARIQ,BATMAN and so on, You may be nice for one day but next day you're a troll, and when people ask for reason you blame on "some Iranian" who been making you angry, i mean are you 5 years old? why make more enemies just because your been insulted by one person. I think you should act in a way that relects your true self, and not act in a way to make you seem like a perosn you're not. I am not saying your a bad person, but you need to prove you want friendship.

look who is talking
they guy who always starts with name calling crying foul

i don't need to clarify myself, i used to debate in favor of iran in u.s during mid 80's ( the era of iranian supported grps taking hostages in lebanon , iran-iraq war and i never missed a protest against that war )

nobody hates iran but we do know about the mullah's in iran more then an ordinary iranian know and how they lie and manuplate the ordinary iranians

TARIQ

 

[lem34]

look who is talking
they guy who always starts with name calling crying foul

i don't need to clarify myself, i used to debate in favor of iran in u.s during mid 80's ( the era of iranian supported grps taking hostages in lebanon , iran-iraq war and i never missed a protest against that war )

nobody hates iran but we do know about the mullah's in iran more then an ordinary iranian know and how they lie and manuplate the ordinary iranians

TARIQ

Iran may have its problem but this thread is not about Iran. Why you want to use that unroyal fat saudi family tactic to blame iran in defence of saudi misdemeanors.

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please dont blame the west

we are very good at doing this job ourselves with or without the help of the West or Zionists etc

but he is right the west do play their part in dividing muslims. And he is also correct we muslims should not judge each other leave that to allah allmighty

 

[Abii]

look who is talking
they guy who always starts with name calling crying foul

i don't need to clarify myself, i used to debate in favor of iran in u.s during mid 80's ( the era of iranian supported grps taking hostages in lebanon , iran-iraq war and i never missed a protest against that war )

nobody hates iran but we do know about the mullah's in iran more then an ordinary iranian know and how they lie and manuplate the ordinary iranians

TARIQ

tariq, just don't blow yourself in a shia neighborhood. We don't care what you support, you can run around with all your wahabi friends all day long.