3 MAOISTS KILLED IN ENCOUNTER IN MALKANGIRI DISTRICT

[jamahir]

What does hanging of a person for attack on parliament have to do with Maoists.

bhai jaan, did you read the original analogy i made in a previous post?? and then did you read my posting of his case's details??

This member constantly derails each and every thread he participates in,

the one constant about me is the hate i get from you and your friends, either by filthy replies or by thanking those filthy replies.

 

[45'22']

poverty is not by nature but a function of wrong political system or incomplete/compromised progressive political system... it is precisely that india is not a socialist state that these suicides happen.



indians are overly represented by congress and bjp, both of which are tools of the capitalists like sks microfinance.

india has something called "representative democracy" which is not democracy at all but a dictatorship of the party, dictatorship of a ( mostly unenlightened ) majority.

what india needs is the people ruling themselves in a clean manner and that is possible through "direct democracy" which is what communism desires and which in india is what aap wants through "swaraj" and which was practised uniquely in the world in the libyan jamahiriya.

in libya, did any farmer suicide??



from ( The Hanging of Mohammad Afzal Guru at Sanhati )...







i believe the airforce files imaging drones to find the naxals but sometimes ( or before drone usage ) flies helicopters.



it is not just odisha, yes??

there was a "india today" article last year which gave the number 80,000... the article was actually i think about lack of much bullet proof helmet and clothing among the crpf but my interest in the article was that number.

Choppers are being used for medical emergencies....and drones are used for combing operations and are operated by cpmf itself....

There is no active involvement of airforce

80 K might be the total number of forces used in the 5 stated

 

[Sky lord]

yeah, normal lives like of jobniks and students in bangalore ( Why Bangalore is India's suicide capital ).

@Slav Defence @waz @Irfan Baloch Sirs, please could you look into this. This member constantly derails each and every thread he participates in, what does suicides in Bangalore have to do with Maosit issue? I think this is against PDf policy.

 

[jamahir]

1. Let's assume X is wrong. That does not make Y right, unless Y provides a solution that X does not. So, try to sell, why Y is any better ? How it is better ?

come on... out of my 7000+ posts, i have described in many how y is better.

2. Out of X and Y, I will choose that solution that has does not give absolute, unregulated and unchallenged power to a single body, for absolute power is absolute corruption. Mao, Stalin, your Gaddafi, they were all dictators at the end of the day.

gaddafi was not a absolute dictator as portrayed by nato-affiliated media or by the fake-left ( like "socialist international" ).

gaddafi since the late 70's became the "guide of the revolution" and left the day-to-day running of libya to the unique people's power system of libya... he devoted the next coming years to not only contributing to writing the "green book" but also engaging in international revolutionary actions and supports.

Do you know ?

i don't but i am positive that they didn't occur... i have in other posts explained the economic system in libya, which was about making things free or subsidising or generally making life comfortable.

About Afzal Guru, not interested in conspiracy theories. The court had given him enough opportunity to prove his innocence. It had even rejected the previous confession recordings. Unless there is some glaring evidence that tells us otherwise, there is no reason to think he was innocent.

in the text i posted above, it is evident that he was hanged to satisfy the sentiments of the unquestioning among the public.

you may read that text again ( and the whole source ) to decide for yourself.

Choppers are being used for medical emergencies....and drones are used for combing operations and are operated by cpmf itself....

There is no active involvement of airforce

of course i too didn't mean attack helicopters or jet fighters.

80 K might be the total number of forces used in the 5 stated

true ( crpf ).

@Slav Defence @waz @Irfan Baloch Sirs, please could you look into this. This member constantly derails each and every thread he participates in, what does suicides in Bangalore have to do with Maosit issue? I think this is against PDf policy.

you are such a liar !!

i was only replying to your non-logic posts.

 

[nForce]

come on... out of my 7000+ posts, i have described in many how y is better.

Wasn't watching all those. There is a problem. You are saying Y is the solution to the problem. How is Y the solution ?

gaddafi was not a absolute dictator as portrayed by nato-affiliated media or by the fake-left ( like "socialist international" ).

gaddafi since the late 70's became the "guide of the revolution" and left the day-to-day running of libya to the unique people's power system of libya... he devoted the next coming years to not only contributing to writing the "green book" but also engaging in international revolutionary actions and supports.

That's the thing. It's Gaddafi who made the system and not other way around. What happens if there is not Gaddafi ? The

i don't but i am positive that they didn't occur...

Then why are you using it as an example ?

i have in other posts explained the economic system in libya, which was about making things free or subsidising or generally making life comfortable.

If everybody is getting things for free, then who is working to make it free ?

in the text i posted above, it is evident that he was hanged to satisfy the sentiments of the unquestioning among the public.

you may read that text again ( and the whole source ) to decide for yourself.

Evidence against him was conclusive enough. Do you have anything that proves his innocence ? Or is it because he is a Muslim ?

 

[Sky lord]

you are such a liar !!

i was only replying to your non-logic posts.

@Slav Defence @Irfan Baloch @waz

Sirs is name calling the preferred method of replying to "non logic" posts on PDF? This member has a history of derailing each and every thread he participates in. Replying to "suicides in Bangalore" would have led to a troll fest.

How is gadaffi, suicides in Bangalore or afzal related to Maosit problems in Malkangiri?

 

[nForce]

@Slav Defence @Irfan Baloch @waz

Sirs is name calling the preferred method of replying to "non logic" posts on PDF? This member has a history of derailing each and every thread he participates in. Replying to "suicides in Bangalore" would have led to a troll fest.

How is gadaffi, suicides in Bangalore or afzal related to Maosit problems in NE?

Malkangiri is in Odisha, not NE.

 

[Sky lord]

Malkangiri is in Odisha, not NE.

NE of where I am ....but will edit the post.

 

[nForce]

NE of where I am ....but will edit the post.

Anybody from south of the wall is a southerner

 

[Sky lord]

Anybody from south of the wall is a southerner

@nForce So to discuss the actual topic here, my feeling is that the government is being too heavy handed....should be more economic upliftment and much less killing....your opinion?

 

[jamahir]

Wasn't watching all those. There is a problem. You are saying Y is the solution to the problem. How is Y the solution ?

janaab, it is 3:10 am and i am sleepy.

let us discuss this over a period ( and i will be repeating many things ).

That's the thing. It's Gaddafi who made the system and not other way around. What happens if there is not Gaddafi ? The

jamahiriya system does not revolve around a single person because it is the people who rule themselves through decentralized self-governing communes which can cascade to city-level, region-level and country-level... and to world-level too.

at present, the citizens of libya, in various cities, are beginning to agitate for a return to jamahiriya system (( manifestation pro kadhafi Aout 2015 Libye - YouTube )).

Then why are you using it as an example ?

i am confused now... i only wanted to deny farmer suicides in libyan jamahiriya.

If everybody is getting things for free, then who is working to make it free ?

socialist systems include two credos - "from each according to capability, to each according to need" and "one who produces, can consume".

every citizen of a socialist/communist society must be politically and work-wise a contributing member.

Evidence against him was conclusive enough. Do you have anything that proves his innocence ? Or is it because he is a Muslim ?

why are you not acknowledging the article i presented??

 

[Nilgiri]

80,000 crpf plus maybe 20,000 more general police and airforce and salwa judum trying to kill off a few thousand naxals is not quite fair.

Why would we fight "fair" against such scum? If they intend to wage war against India, India will use her might to finish them as quickly and efficiently as possible.

You are welcome to go join these naxals and help to even the odds if you want.

And you are seriously comparing Libya to India?

 

[Sky lord]

Why would we fight "fair" against such scum? If they intend to wage war against India, India will use her might to finish them as quickly and efficiently as possible.

You are welcome to go join these naxals and help to even the odds if you want.

And you are seriously comparing Libya to India?

My point is this :


On Election Day when we line up at the polling station to give our vote, we do so in order to elect a government that:
1. Ensures our safety - external and internal
2. Works for our economic uplift
3. Protects our rights - including right to property.

the tribals of Malkangiri have as much right as any of us on the GOI and I feel that Goi failed them . The goi did not work for their economic benefit, they did not protect their property and when they take up arms they shoot them down. It should never have got to this stage. Here is a para from a reputed newspaper regarding jai ram Ramesh who practically stopped every development in the name of environment.

The other project Ramesh stopped in Orissa was Vedanta’s bauxite refinery in the Niyamgiri hills. Vedanta built the refinery at a cost of over Rs.11,000 crore near the source of bauxite (in the hills) so that it could produce aluminum at half the international price. This would have made India a major aluminum producing country and brought huge prosperity to Orissa. But, the international aluminum lobby is extremely powerful so they employed the services of a handful of empty headed, unemployed celebrities who suddenly turned up in Niyamgiri to discover that it was a ‘sacred mountain’ and that they Adivasis were straight out of Avatar. They paid for illiterate Adivasis to travel to London to protest against Vedanta but may have failed to stop the project had the Minister of Environment not intervened.

What is interesting is that he stopped it on the basis of supposed environmental violations but when the Congress Party’s Crown Prince, Rahul Gandhi, visited Niyamgiri the very next day he congratulated the Adivasis on ‘saving their land’. He said he would be their sipahi in Delhi to help them keep it.


Had the bauxite factory gone forward, had these people been taught skills and provided jobs and compensation for their land. We wouldn't have the problem we have now. The GOI very much has a share of blame.

 

[Nilgiri]

My point is this :


On Election Day when we line up at the polling station to give our vote, we do so in order to elect a government that:
1. Ensures our safety - external and internal
2. Works for our economic uplift
3. Protects our rights - including right to property.

the tribals of Malkangiri have as much right as any of us on the GOI and I feel that Goi failed them . The goi did not work for their economic benefit, they did not protect their property and when they take up arms they shoot them down. It should never have got to this stage. Here is a para from a reputed newspaper regarding jai ram Ramesh who practically stopped every development in the name of environment.

The other project Ramesh stopped in Orissa was Vedanta’s bauxite refinery in the Niyamgiri hills. Vedanta built the refinery at a cost of over Rs.11,000 crore near the source of bauxite (in the hills) so that it could produce aluminum at half the international price. This would have made India a major aluminum producing country and brought huge prosperity to Orissa. But, the international aluminum lobby is extremely powerful so they employed the services of a handful of empty headed, unemployed celebrities who suddenly turned up in Niyamgiri to discover that it was a ‘sacred mountain’ and that they Adivasis were straight out of Avatar. They paid for illiterate Adivasis to travel to London to protest against Vedanta but may have failed to stop the project had the Minister of Environment not intervened.

What is interesting is that he stopped it on the basis of supposed environmental violations but when the Congress Party’s Crown Prince, Rahul Gandhi, visited Niyamgiri the very next day he congratulated the Adivasis on ‘saving their land’. He said he would be their sipahi in Delhi to help them keep it.


Had the bauxite factory gone forward, had these people been taught skills and provided jobs and compensation for their land. We wouldn't have the problem we have now. The GOI very much has a share of blame.

It is typical UPA votebank politics. They will not do anything for the long term betterment of the country...and they are weak in dealing with security threats.

With BJP in power now, Naxalites must put down their arms or get sent to hell. It is their choice. The job and economic situation is improving now....no reason to try overthrow a govt that is performing now. They can vent their anger at UPA leaders for continuing to stick to anti-development, casteist platforms.

But if they want more handouts and doles for doing nothing but being a certain class, they are mistaken.

 

[nForce]

@nForce So to discuss the actual topic here, my feeling is that the government is being too heavy handed....should be more economic upliftment and much less killing....your opinion?

Improper distribution of wealth, systematic suppression and lack of development is what caused this in the first place. If not anything, the naxalites of this round gave a wake-up call.
I have been to some of these places and let me tell you, they have pretty strong reasons to be aggrieved. But, their way of violence is not acceptable. The CRPF is still going soft at them in my opinion.