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So you don't know what you have talked/claimed about other than your own assumption?

There is no such understanding/agreement between micromax and Ericson. Otherwise u will find the news easily.

Micromax is not a cash cow like xiaomi and not a threat for Ericson, micromax is not sold overseas only in India and India govt will support micromax if eEricson sue, that's why micromax is not an interest for Ericson to sue.

Furthermore micromax most products are rebranded products produced by Chinese manufacturer, so why Ericson need to bother

Genius I was using Micromax & Ericson as a example
If Micromax is violating someone else's patents then the OEM will surely sue it

IP rights is a phrase which is not present in mandarin dictionary. They just love to steal and imitate and roll 'em out as their own.

From car models to air craft designs to ships and subs. Chinese mobile brands will always remain chinese.

& then they are lecturing is on Patents & stuff
 
Xiaomi rule in china not because of anti competition in china, but because of their business innovation.



In time darling ..

You will see China tech companies challenge the american companies in US soil in the future.
Now chinese technology champions need to rule in china market first, then start foothold overseas.

Remember how Japanese toyota was nothing compared to Chrysler, Ford etc, but later on challange american car companies? Likewise will hapen with chinese tech companies.

And dont forget how US govt ban Huawei from entering US soil, the same reason that Chinese govt will use to avoid US tech companies in govt institutions.



That is not true anymore ..

Do you know that China is already the largest patent producer in the world, far leaving America and Japan behind? China wont be able to become largest patent producer if the IP right is not present in China as you said above.

Stealing and imitating is not only chinese favorit , but once also Japanese, Europeans, and America favorit too.
Why dont you steal anymore? because IP law has been established in your country long time ago, therefore nobody dare to be a theft.



What you are saying is far from truth ..

That is because Micromax can do nothing else. In the meantime Xiaomi still have a choice: whether they leave India, or pay royalty to Ericson.

You need to find fact to be aware of the most updated situation.. China is already a patent behemoth leaving India, even US and Japan behind.

Xiaomi is a new comer therefore they dont have many patent portfolio, and easily become prey of big companies when Xiaomi become large. In china even Huawei and ZTE could target Xiaomi for the patent infringement.

Maybe. You can check the entire thread if I ever made any claims that Xiaomi couldn't.

As for your point on patents, well you are confusing patents with changing industry structure. Patents are filed not just to earn royalty but also to keep one self safe from frivolous claims made against them in future.

Industry structure is the keyword here.!

In Xiaomi's case, only phones using CPU other than Qualcomm's are sued, meaning low-end models like Redmi 1S with MTK cpu are banned. Seems that Qualcomm's patent protection is still effective in India. And I bet there will be an agreement between Ericsson and Xiaomi finally. so what you mention is not important. The situation is not changed for brands like Xiaomi and Micromax. They have a lot of lawsuits ahead waiting for them, unless they increase their number of core patents tremendously or just refrain their markets to a very limited area.

Yes. I don't know about Xiaomi but huawei are doing a good job in this regard.

Xiaomi rule in china not because of anti competition in china, but because of their business innovation.

Just let google work freely and see for yourself how baidu or w/e you have in your country bite the dust in no time. Heck they even copied the google index page. Talking about originality :lol:
 
Eg. Toyota has immense brand equity here in US since they brought in a paradigm shift in the car industry and their fundamentally different approach are studied in almost all top B school in States as a case.

You will hear likewise with Chinese corporation too. Chinese company are well known for cost innovation and effective supply chain management.

In term of quality, many chinese smartphone quality already comparable to Iphone. The difference is: Apple has good brand recognition while Xiaomi, Oppo, etc not. Chinese company has to deal with negative image of the chinese brand, also they need to build sales distribution network well overseas, and build brand image. So with these issue, China will maybe need another 5 years to become global premium brands.

If Xiaomi, Huawei, etc enter US market, probably in next 5 years after that Apple would be at the brink of collapse.

Maybe. You can check the entire thread if I ever made any claims that Xiaomi couldn't.

As for your point on patents, well you are confusing patents with changing industry structure. Patents are filed not just to earn royalty but also to keep one self safe from frivolous claims made against them in future.

Industry structure is the keyword here.!

I am not. In fact I am saying so to you.

You were consistently claiming that China doesnt recognize IP in their dictionary, and clouded by old fashioned paradigm about chinese copy cat industry.

On the other hand, I am trying to open your eyes that China exactly do recognize IP law, and IP game in industry. The chinese copy cat era has been gone! You will see soon how China will be excellent in the IP game againts western industry.


Yes. I don't know about Xiaomi but huawei are doing a good job in this regard.

Xiaomi is a newcomer, no wonder they have little patent portfolio to defend their business both in China and overseas.

Huawei patent portfolio is second after Qualcom.


Just let google work freely and see for yourself how baidu or w/e you have in your country bite the dust in no time. Heck they even copied the google index page. Talking about originality :lol:

I could not find that accusation in Google, maybe you can help? :laugh:

Baidu is rather an innovator than copy cat. Baidu was inspired by Google, not copying it.
You have to distinguish between "inspired" vs "copycat".

What Baidu, wechat, youku do are known as "micro innovator". They become counterpart of US internet companies, but modifying business model, improving product’s functionality, or even beautifying a user interface. There are barely patent infringement.

Copycat or Innovator? Baidu turns up the heat on Google | Business Spectator
Did Baidu copy Google? How? - Quora
 
You will hear likewise with Chinese corporation too. Chinese company are well known for cost innovation and effective supply chain management.

In term of quality, many chinese smartphone quality already comparable to Iphone. The difference is: Apple has good brand recognition while Xiaomi, Oppo, etc not. Chinese company has to deal with negative image of the chinese brand, also they need to build sales distribution network well overseas, and build brand image. So with these issue, China will maybe need another 5 years to become global premium brands.

If Xiaomi, Huawei, etc enter US market, probably in next 5 years after that Apple would be at the brink of collapse.



I am not. In fact I am saying so to you.

You were consistently claiming that China doesnt recognize IP in their dictionary, and clouded by old fashioned paradigm about chinese copy cat industry.

On the other hand, I am trying to open your eyes that China exactly do recognize IP law, and IP game in industry. The chinese copy cat era has been gone! You will see soon how China will be excellent in the IP game againts western industry.




Xiaomi is a newcomer, no wonder they have little patent portfolio to defend their business both in China and overseas.

Huawei patent portfolio is second after Qualcom.




I could not find that accusation in Google, maybe you can help? :laugh:

Baidu is rather an innovator than copy cat. Baidu was inspired by Google, not copying it.
You have to distinguish between "inspired" vs "copycat".

What Baidu, wechat, youku do are known as "micro innovator". They become counterpart of US internet companies, but modifying business model, improving product’s functionality, or even beautifying a user interface. There are barely patent infringement.

Thanks for highlighting the key achievements of chinese mobile industry. I am sure with the huge no of graduates china is producing, they will surely catch up soon.

As regard to Baidu claim check this out :
 

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Lenovo Tab2 A7-30 voice tablet goes for sale at 999 Yuan ($160) in China
December 26, 2014


Lenovo A7-30 low cost tablet has been quite popular among buyers, especially those who are looking for a device which can make calls too. Now, the second generation model of the device, namely the Lenovo Tab2 A7-30 voice tablet went on sale in China for an official price of 999 yuan.

Lenovo has somehow reduced the size of this new tablet as compared to the old A7-30. So, the new measurements are 191 x105x 8.9mm instead of 198 x 119.8 x 10.5 mm. As you can see, the tablet is now much smaller and compact than the older model but retains the same 7-inch display which makes it better portable and easier to hold with one hand.

As for the tech specs, the new model features a 7-inch IPS display with the same resolution of 1024 x 600 pixels. Inside, there is a MTK8382 quad-core processor clocked at 1.3GHz. This is the same processor used in the previous generation. There is 1GB RAM and 16GB internal storage. The rear camera measures 5MP while the front measures 3MP, both upgraded from the 2MP/ 0.3MP sensors found in the last model. Inside, a 3450 mAh powers all these specs.

Even though this is just an entry level tablet, it comes with over 10 gesture control features. You can even wake up the device with double tap on display. It runs on Android 4.4 KitKat OS.

As mentioned above, the Lenovo Tab2 A7-30 went on sale in China for 999 Yuan which comes to around $160. Since, first generation model was available in a number of countries worldwide, expect more details about an international release soon.
 
You want to become a supplier to Xiaomi?Fine,but you must do it Xiaomi's way。:enjoy:

LG Display increases supplies to Xiaomi 4 times

By: Sung Hyeon-hee | etnews.com | Posted: 27 Dec 2014, 10:23

LG Display will greatly increase the quantity of parts it supplies to China's Xiaomi, which is emerging as a global smartphone super power, in 2015. LGD is planning to capitalize on Xiaomi as the foothold for expansion in the Chinese market by increasing the smartphone panels it supplies to Xiaomi by more than 4 times. The company also decided to strengthen its cooperation in mid-to-large displays, e.g. TVs and tablet PCs. Also, LGD is forecast to fiercely compete with Samsung Display for Xiaomi. Samsung is doing its best to find new buyers,

According to LG and industry insiders on December 25, LG Display will aim to supply more than 10 million 5-inch full HD LCD panels to Xiaomi in 2015. In 2014, LGD supplied about 2.3 million 5.5-inch HD LCD panels to 2 Xiaomi.

“As the products we are supplying to Xiaomi are low-priced general-purpose LCDs that are not highly profitable, there are differing views internally on whether we should increase our supplies to Xiaomi,” said an LG insider. “As Xiaomi adheres to a low-priced product strategy, but wants to use relatively premium displays and is trying hard to make inroads into the global market, however, we decided to further strengthen the cooperative relationship in 2015.”:enjoy:

LG Display is supplying not only displays for small smartphones, but also larger TV panels. As the 49-inch UHD TV (MiTV2), released last June, used the LG Display panel, LGD implanted the image of ‘a product that has good quality compared to its price’ in the mind of consumers. As Xiaomi seems poised to take an offensive position in the TV and tablet PC market next year, LG Display is thinking of it as an opportunity.

As Samsung Display is doing its utmost to increase buyers in the Chinese market to bounce back from its poor performance, however, it will not be an easy battle. A while ago, the executives of Xiaomi visited Samsung Display and discussed the supply of large panels.

An industry insider said, “Domestic display makers are expected to compete intensely with one another to wind orders from Xiaomi, but unlike in small displays, in large displays, existing customers like Samsung Electronics and LG Electronics will hold them in check, and thus they will not be able to increase the quantities bound for Xiaomi.”

Xiaomi sold 18.7 million smartphones last year, and aims to sell 60 million smartphones globally next year.
 
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I don’t know if it sounds good, but is sure as hell looks cool. Although most people who want to buy a Bluetooth speaker are probably looking for something portable, you can’t deny that a levitating speaker doesn’t make an awesome conversation piece. Powered by the same technology as high-speed maglev trains, the floating ball is also immune to resonance created by speakers that are grounded to hard surfaces. Levi raised RMB 53,300 (US$8,590) on Demohour in December.

China's Baidu, Alibaba, Tencent Move Into Content Creation


(THR) It's not an official animal in the Chinese zodiac, but 2014 was very much the year of the BAT – Baidu, Alibaba and Tencent, that is. And 2015 will probably be another year of the BAT in Hollywood, too, as the tech giants, which the acronym describes, make even bigger inroads into the entertainment business.

Big web companies in China are uniquely positioned to take advantage of providing content when you consider that 60 percent of Chinese consumers watch TV and movies on their cell phones or tablets.

The conditions for expansion are right. During 2014, the industry made progress in fighting piracy. In April, a lot of peer-to-peer (P2P) content sharing sites were shut down and the largest piracy provider, Kuaibo, which runs pirate site QVOD, was closed down and fined.

To most Chinese, Baidu is best known as a speedy search engine, but its iQIYI unit, which has only been in the movie business since July, is building a presence in movies and TV both in China and Hollywood. Anyone attending American Film Market in November would have noticed the iQIYI lanyards, and execs from the company made high-profile appearances at film festivals in Venice, Busan and the U.S-China Film Summit in L.A.

"We really hope to have more cooperation with Hollywood in the future, in two ways – purchasing good content – mostly movies, but also TV shows, and we also want to discuss the possibility of co-producing content, such as adaptations of U.S. content for Chinese market," said Gong Yu, CEO of iQIYI .

In 2015, iQIYI plans to buy distribution rights to more than 1,000 U.S. movie titles to meet swelling demand from its users for Hollywood content, and plans to make seven local films and one Hollywood- style film next year. Over one million users took part in its crowd-funding program for The Golden Era, a film by Hong Kong director Ann Hui, raising nearly $3 million in three minutes.
iQIYI also inked a $300 million partnership with smartphone maker Xiaomi to buy TV shows and movies.
The best-known of the three BAT companies internationally is Alibaba. Thanks to its $25 billion IPO in September, which made international headlines, the company, which its founder and executive chairman Jack Ma says is "the biggest entertainment company in the world," probably has a war chest of around $16 billion in cash for investments.

Incredible to think that at the end of 2013, Alibaba was best known as an e-commerce site with a cool platform for buying anything you want online. By the end of 2015, it could be a Hollywood studio. The groundwork for this has already been laid. Alibaba's offices in Los Angeles will be headed up by Zhang Wei, while the search is on for content Alibaba can sell to Chinese viewers through its set-top boxes.

Alibaba Pictures was formed in March when it bought a majority stake in Hong Kong-based ChinaVision Media Group, which produces Chinese-language TV shows and movies. The company is headed up by Zhang Qiang, a former senior executive of the state-run China Film Group.

Alibaba Film Group plans to invest in eight to 10 films every year, three to five TV dramas and the same number of web-only dramas. The group's board includes action star Jet Li, who is close to Ma, the former English teacher who founded Alibaba in 1999 and remains its chairman.

Alibaba Film Group has lined up a slate of films with In the Mood for Love director Wong Kar-wai and also has an agreement with Taiwanese director Giddens Ko. And the company is entitled to 30 percent of the investment return from Stephen Chow‘s blockbuster Journey to the West: Conquering the Demons.

In April, Alibaba and Ma's Yunfeng Capital paid $1.2 billion for an 18.5 percent stake in the Chinese online video company Youku Tudou. In the same month, Alibaba agreed to purchase a 20 percent stake for $1 billion in the Internet TV company Wasu.

Alibaba also struck a deal with Lionsgate to bring Divergent and The Twilight Saga: Eclipse and such TV shows as Mad Men, Weeds and The Royals to China. Along with the real estate company Wanda, Alibaba is also seen as a potential investor in Lionsgate itself.

Tencent, which has nearly half a billion monthly users for its WeChat social media service and 830 million users for its signature instant messaging service QQ, in 2014 signed a major deal with HBO to make its TV shows and movies available on a broad basis in China for the first time.

During 2014, Tencent also launched a film unit, Tencent Movie Plus, which will aim to make four or five films a year. The first project it is working on will be Nobel Prize-winner Mo Yan’s novel The Treasure Map, which the company said will be made with input from Hollywood. The focus of Tencent Movie Plus will be on projects based on Tencent’s intellectual property including cartoons, novels and games such as QQ Race Car, an online race game that has more than three million users.

Last year, Tencent produced an animated series based on its online game Roco Kingdom, which brought in $24.4 million in box- office revenue. Tencent also struck a deal with Warner Music to distribute stars such as Linkin Park, Bruno Mars and Michael Buble online. In December, the company also announced a deal with Sony Music to exclusively distribute its global roster of stars in China.

It's not just the BAT companies that are making waves in China though.

Youku Tudou set up a film division, Heyi Films, to produce a slate of films for what it said was the country’s first online and offline production company. Heyi is headed up by Allen Zhu, and Youku Tudou CEO Victor Koo. Among its slate of projects is The Master, produced by Beijing Century Partner Culture & Media Inc., Bad Sister directed by Kim Tae-gyun with Ivy Chen, and Vacation in Paris produced by Universe Entertainment with Louis Koo and Amber Kuo. Heyi Film also plans to adapt five popular web original shows for the big screen, including Surprise, Yes Boss! and Miss Puff.

Sohu.com, which includes online video and media, search, gaming, community and mobile services among its product offering, bought the online video provider 56.com, and said it planned to double its investment in the self-produced content business, as more and more people access content on their mobile phones and 4G starts to make an impact on the market. The Simpsons made their way over the Great Wall for the first time via a Fox deal with Sohu. The company also signed a content deal with the BBC.

Hou Tao, vp of research group Entgroup said internet companies have three advantages. "First, internet companies have large amount of online literature and games etc which can provide good content and also lower the production fee from the copyright aspect," said Hou.

"Second, many internet companies have video websites, or are themselves video websites. The 'fan effect' from the video website gives a big push to the box office. Third, internet companies are used to analyzing user data. This advantage allows them to know market trends and lower the risk," said Hou.

Guo Fanli, head of research at China Investment Consulting, said internet companies can use big data and users' advance demand, so that they can precisely judge the audiences' preference and interests to tailor and optimize the film production. "For example, a good film can make one billion yuan ($160 million) in the traditional way, but if you operate it through the internet, it can be 1.5 billion ($240 million)," said Guo.

What analysts are asking now is what form the Chinese tech firms' growing might in the entertainment industry will take. The biggest question is how long before the market starts to narrow down the number of players as the sector looks ripe for consolidation with so many similar-type players. The next 12 months will show if it will still be BAT at the end of 2015 or if there will be some other configuration.
 
Job well done! Let China's companies fail more if the Indian way of failing is this. LOL.

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PS: Ignore the Indians.
An indian telling Multi billion dollar Chinese companies that doing business using their current way is bound to fail.
:rofl:

I think this indian and a false flag American is anal hurt these Chinese companies are so successful in such a short time. You are correct to ignore them. When they are pissed, Chinese are doing the right things.
 
I am considering Huawei as my next smartphone brand. But here i seen a new brand Xiaomi. Any idea how is this one..??:pakistan:
 
No.1 X-Men X1 ultra-rugged phone survives after a car goes over it!
December 27, 2014


Recently there have been a lot of buzz about the upcoming ultra-rugged No.1 X-men X1 smartphone. Today, we got a glimpse of the true resistant power of the phone, when the guys over at No.1 ran a car over the device.

As you can see in the video shown below, the No.1 X-men X1 actually survives a car being rolled over it. Thanks, to its hard outer shell, the phone comes out scratch less after this feat. The company had made big claims about the device back when it announced it, but this is a real world example to show the actual strength of the No.1 X1. In the video, like you can see, the touchscreen worked perfectly fine even after the car went over it. So, its safe to assume that the phone can take a beating and it’s built to survive harsh conditions.


The X1 is certified to be rugged. Its IP68 complaint and is resistant against 7 different kinds of damages. The phone is waterproof, dustproof , pressure proof, freezeproof, Shockproof, high-temperature proof and Scratch Proof. So, you don’t have to worry about damaging your phone in whatever harsh environment that you are going to expose it.



Even the specifications are mid-range making it different than other rugged phones which usually feature disappointing specs. On the front, there is a 5-inch display with HD resolution which has become a standard among mid-range phones these days. Inside, the phone houses a quad-core 1.3GHz MT6582 processor with 1GB RAM. At the rear is the 13MP camera sensor with LED flash while up front lies the 3MP shooter. To power all these specs, you have a very large 5,800 mAh battery inside, which the company claims provides standby times of over 50 days which is a pretty impressive claim for any smartphone. It comes with Android 4.4.2 KitKat out of the box. As for the network connectivity, it supports GSM 850/900/1800/1900m and WCDMA 850/900/2100 networks.

Clearly the specs, design as well as the 7-Proof nature of the phone makes it one of the best rugged smartphones that we have seen lately. We have not yet received an official price from the company but expect the phone to retail anywhere around $185.

For more information, check out their official website here.

So, what do you think of the device after the durability test? Would you buy the all new No.1 X-Men X1?

 
The Chinese government has recently issued a decree to replace all government/public use E-facility with national products. This INCLUDES the software in these facilities. Just wait and see. It will happen.
 

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