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that's the root of current problems.after our friend Hồ Chí Minh,your govt devided into pro-China and pro-Soviet groups,however,the pro-Soviet group took the leadership for the Soviet Union is a greater backing at that time and China didn't make efforts to get your support in our disputes with the Soviet Union.unfortunately,soviet union collapsed and you lost the backing,so you need another----US,which was your biggest enemy.

have you ever imagine?if the pro-China group took the leadership in the 1970s.....vietnam should and would in a better position.firstly,national security,you wouldn't have a big enemy;secondly,territorial disputes,all our friendly neighbors have demarcated the boundaries with us and some of them benifit much;thirdly,economic help,needless to say as you are all clever guys.
Remember, What was happen in the 1970s when China and US shaked hand together. And Why happen the war in 1979!?

You guys from China always got it in your head with a pathetic logic: VietNam have problem with China in economic sections, territorial disputes, then VietNam have China like a big enemy!? Was VietNam made this enemy!? None
We have problem to deal, but not enemy in first. ( of course If You were do like you said: rise in peaceful way, but now, seems like that was not )
 
Remember, What was happen in the 1970s when China and US shaked hand together. And Why happen the war in 1979!?

You guys from China always got it in your head with a pathetic logic: VietNam have problem with China in economic sections, territorial disputes, then VietNam have China like a big enemy!? Was VietNam made this enemy!? None
We have problem to deal, but not enemy in first. ( of course If You were do like you said: rise in peaceful way, but now, seems like that was not )

the reason for 1979 war.
1.vietnam started the war machine of invading Cambodia and Laos
2.invading some of our islands
3.your government persecuted tens of thousands Vietnam Chinese
at that time you boasted yourself the No.3 military power of the world and wanted to occupy the entire Indo-China Peninsula.need i say more about your ambition?
 
the reason for 1979 war.
1.vietnam started the war machine of invading Cambodia and Laos
2.invading some of our islands
3.your government persecuted tens of thousands Vietnam Chinese
at that time you boasted yourself the No.3 military power of the world and wanted to occupy the entire Indo-China Peninsula.need i say more about your ambition?

You guys said same thing that many time, and none are real.

1. Pol-pot and Khmer-rouge with China support attacked and kill thousands innocents people of VietNam. ( They even kill millions khmer people ). So that we counter-attack, and wipe out khmer-rouge for both of Cambodia and VietNam.
2. In 1974, PRC occupied Paracel Islands by force from Republic of Vietnam, then 1975, Socialist Republic of Vietnam inheritance sovereignty of 2 Islands from South Vietnam. What the hell with 1979!?
3. We just expulsion some of them out or they go by themselves by many reasons! And if You said so: Where your proof about that!? - What did PRC do when riot in Indonesia kill many Chinese Indonesian!? Nothing in real! :disagree:

You said that your government is good side, but your "truth" is just sick of lies.

And you were ignore this ( Don't you dare to answer !? ) :coffee::
Remember, What was happen in the 1970s when China and US shaked hand together. And Why happen the war in 1979!?
 
China backed Kmer Rouge attacked Vietnam from 1976-1978. With chinese advisers Polpot regime killed many innocent Vietnamese.

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Deng and his new master in Washington before invasion in to Vietnam 1979. He did revenge for his master was loser in Vietnam war. It's true face of China.
 
that's the root of current problems.after our friend Hồ Chí Minh,your govt devided into pro-China and pro-Soviet groups,however,the pro-Soviet group took the leadership for the Soviet Union is a greater backing at that time and China didn't make efforts to get your support in our disputes with the Soviet Union.unfortunately,soviet union collapsed and you lost the backing,so you need another----US,which was your biggest enemy.

have you ever imagine?if the pro-China group took the leadership in the 1970s.....vietnam should and would in a better position.firstly,national security,you wouldn't have a big enemy;secondly,territorial disputes,all our friendly neighbors have demarcated the boundaries with us and some of them benifit much;thirdly,economic help,needless to say as you are all clever guys.

You are asking why North Vietnam decided for the Soviets, and against China in the 1960's?
Well, there were many strategic reasons for this, one was only the USSR military machine was able to deliver North Vietnam what it needed to win the war!

The price it paid for was the relationship with Beijing. Historically Vietnam always wants to maintain a good relationship with China, even in difficult times. As far as I know, Vietnam wanted to avoid a war with China in the 1970's at any cost, thus the Vietnamese government offered Beijing a strategic partnership agreement, which Beijing rejected.
 
You guys said same thing that many time, and none are real.

1. Pol-pot and Khmer-rouge with China support attacked and kill thousands innocents people of VietNam. ( They even kill millions khmer people ). So that we counter-attack, and wipe out khmer-rouge for both of Cambodia and VietNam.
2. In 1974, PRC occupied Paracel Islands by force from Republic of Vietnam, then 1975, Socialist Republic of Vietnam inheritance sovereignty of 2 Islands from South Vietnam. What the hell with 1979!?
3. We just expulsion some of them out or they go by themselves by many reasons! And if You said so: Where your proof about that!? - What did PRC do when riot in Indonesia kill many Chinese Indonesian!? Nothing in real! :disagree:

You said that your government is good side, but your "truth" is just sick of lies.

And you were ignore this ( Don't you dare to answer !? ) :coffee::
LOL.you guys attack Cambodia for the reason they kill your people.and we slap you for you robbed property of south Vietnam Chinese and expelled, persecuted or killed them.no need to cover your guilty up,as all world knows.
 
You are asking why North Vietnam decided for the Soviets, and against China in the 1960's?
Well, there were many strategic reasons for this, one was only the USSR military machine was able to deliver North Vietnam what it needed to win the war!

The price it paid for was the relationship with Beijing. Historically Vietnam always wants to maintain a good relationship with China, even in difficult times. As far as I know, Vietnam wanted to avoid a war with China in the 1970's at any cost, thus the Vietnamese government offered Beijing a strategic partnership agreement, which Beijing rejected.

you told the truth.
your govt abandoned the long-term interest for a short-term one.a wrong bet,the cost is .......somewhat ......you know:hitwall:
 
you told the truth.
your govt abandoned the long-term interest for a short-term one.a wrong bet,the cost is .......somewhat ......you know:hitwall:
the cost was: we ousted your ally Pol Pot, set up Pro-VN govt. successfully in Laos-Camb. You got some of our useless and unimportant ils. Now we can kick out any Chinese in Laos-Camb we want.

We gained more than we lost,that's acceptable:coffee:
 
you told the truth.
your govt abandoned the long-term interest for a short-term one.a wrong bet,the cost is .......somewhat ......you know:hitwall:

If North Vietnam decided for Beijing, the war would have lasted longer and surely cost more lives, a victory was uncertain. China was not in the position to help North Vietnam to win the war, don' t forget North Vietnam fought against the US military machine, a superpower.
 
If North Vietnam decided for Beijing, the war would have lasted longer and surely cost more lives, a victory was uncertain. China was not in the position to help North Vietnam to win the war, don' t forget North Vietnam fought against the US military machine, a superpower.

haha.the US army was not defeated by your stubborn resistance or USSR weapons.it was the dense forest that covered your soldiers. and without our help in air defense more people would die and more years you would be in the war.
 
haha.the US army was not defeated by your stubborn resistance or USSR weapons.it was the dense forest that covered your soldiers. and without our help in air defense more people would die and more years you would be in the war.

Absolutely true, guerrilla tactic was possible because of the jungle vegetation. Because of that the Americans began to spray them out with agent orange.
 
haha.the US army was not defeated by your stubborn resistance or USSR weapons.it was the dense forest that covered your soldiers. and without our help in air defense more people would die and more years you would be in the war.
The US was the battlefield winner

Their lost in Vietnam because they could not attack North Vietnam on the ground, because they feared BEIJING'S INTERVENTION like in Korean war. Without our help, or if the US didn't fear our army, the US would wiped out North Vietnam in months. Don't buy the guerrilla hype, it doesn't work. Without our help, the Vietnamese could not even have Dien Bien Phu, Vietminh fighting in guerrilla style could not go against the French until they received our support. And without our help, they didn't have anything to go against the US. Food, fuel, weapon, we gave them many but look at how they treat us now.

Actually, we are the real force behind that win.

If you want to use guerrilla tactic well,you must have perfect spies to steal enemy's inteligent abt its militaty operations,so you will know where to ambush your enemy .

Our guerrilla tatic worked well coz we have perfect spies like Pham Xuan An, Chinese is not smart enough to fool CIA like VNese, that's why Taiwan is still colonized by US ,China is still low IQ paper tiger:coffee:
lol, even most of Vietnamese like this idiot doesn't know the real reason of the US's retreat.

Congratulation to you guerrilla fighters and your spies, Vietnamese is so smart and strong, LMAO. We have a legend, who can eat Xuanzang meat would have power. We are so poor and stupid, can you give us some blood to help us? We are thirsty for your blood
 
lol, even most of Vietnamese like this idiot doesn't know the real reason of the US's retreat.

Congratulation to you guerrilla fighters and your spies, Vietnamese is so smart and strong, LMAO. We have a legend, who can eat Xuanzang meat would have power. We are so poor and stupid, can you give us some blood to help us? We are thirsty for your blood
US retreated coz we are smarter and we fought better, US still colonize Chinese in TW coz Chinese IQ is low and their combat tactic is terrible ,too

Poor you, try to free urself first before coming here and yap .:P
 
Yes, it was guerrilla war. we prepared to take Saigon in good time, let US go home no losing her face.

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