2nd pilot

[NA71]

They do on and off. Nothing out of the ordinary for current tensions.


No need to speculate, no gadgetry can show military traffic.
Civilian traffic operating “normally”

I personally saw with binocular I was not speculating ... the traffic was there till 1 am. civilian traffic does not fly in a circle .....

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

What's current status ?



Social media is not the source... We fly as threat exist. Hot? Are we into war? Hot only means active conflict... How about wrong use of such terminology.



Karachi Airport flights. Please.

Nope. Sound of fighter jets

 

[SQ8]

I personally saw with binocular I was not speculating ... the traffic was there till 1 am. civilian traffic does not fly in a circle .....

It does.
Its called a holding pattern

 

[NA71]

It does.
Its called a holding pattern

Sir, I know the difference between jetfighter and commercial AC ...should I post the details of jets flying last night? people have posted videos of last night PAF's jets flying .....on social media.

 

[Maarkhoor]

I think su30 has 2 piolet s so where is the other one?

Fell on IOK along with the wreckage of jet.

 

[Ghessan]

Hi,

Modi was playing a GAME---. He found an escape route from the Rafale inquiry---tried to show that everything else is useless other than the Rafale---.

Trying to show the public that he had to take the Brahmos route because the M2K's and SU30's no good---.

and this game is played on both sides of the border, we too have experienced it in the last tenure.
but isn't it the first time we have pushed their politics to maneuver insanely?

 

[airomerix]

If true then India's conventional superiority over Pak is now a myth!!! Shouldn't Pak be behaving the way India's behaving now???

By the by, can 50 folks (Marwari/Parsi/Jain etc.), who control 70% of India's wealth among themselves, really afford a nuclear duel with Pak???? Or, even a potential possibility can do a real harm to their wealth!!!! The last time they sold Bengal to the East India Company....

No one in India (including Modi) wants a nuclear duel with Pakistan.

They want to use conventional force and make headlines. Humiliate Pakistan.

Since years they have been shelling our border areas. We do the same. No consequences are there. No questions are asked. This time they used military jets which is a step ahead in modern warfare. They got slapped. Badly.

This played in Pakistan's favour. This is how

WHAT HAPPENED ON 27th?

The only agenda of 27th February for PAF was to obtain footage of H4 strikes inside IOK. They were to be released to the media and a new narrative/definition of 'surgical strikes' was to be set. By Pakistan this time.

On the other hand, by the grace of Allah, IAF was blessed with idiots with Wg Cmdr Abhinandan. 4 F-16's had a radar lock on this poor bastard at one time. But Wg Cmdr Nauman pressed the trigger. Splash One & the poor man landed on our soil.

The second kill of Flanker was made by S/L Hassan. When the first call of 'FOX 3' was made the pilots knew the war has started. So they resorted to engage anything they could get their hands on. This particular flanker had given a radar lock to S/L Hassan's F-16. And S/L Hassan went after him after breaking his radar lock with his own. Fired the missile and after several seconds (cannot disclose how many) the flanker was hit in the belly. A perfect shot. Even now it is being debated if the Flanker kill was 'needed'. Since the aircraft was well inside IOK. However it was the heat of the conflict which earned us that kill.

Abhinandon was an idiot. He was supposed to launch an R77 which was to be guided by an Su30 behind him. He wanted his own kill/experience so he came in deep inside. He was given repeated warnings by his own wingman (a bison) and parent Su30 which was supposed to guide its R77s. But he ate the dust in the end.

 

[The Eagle]

No one in India (including Modi) wants a nuclear duel with Pakistan.

They want to use conventional force and make headlines. Humiliate Pakistan.

Since years they have been shelling our border areas. We do the same. No consequences are there. No questions are asked. This time they used military jets which is a step ahead in modern warfare. They got slapped. Badly.

This played in Pakistan's favour. This is how

WHAT HAPPENED ON 27th?

The only agenda of 27th February for PAF was to obtain footage of H4 strikes inside IOK. They were to be released to the media and a new narrative/definition of 'surgical strikes' was to be set. By Pakistan this time.

On the other hand, by the grace of Allah, IAF was blessed with idiots with Wg Cmdr Abhinandan. 4 F-16's had a radar lock on this poor bastard at one time. But Wg Cmdr Nauman pressed the trigger. Splash One & the poor man landed on our soil.

The second kill of Flanker was made by S/L Hassan. When the first call of 'FOX 3' was made the pilots knew the war has started. So they resorted to engage anything they could get their hands on. This particular flanker had given a radar lock to S/L Hassan's F-16. And S/L Hassan went after him after breaking his radar lock with his own. Fired the missile and after several seconds (cannot disclose how many) the flanker was hit in the belly. A perfect shot. Even now it is being debated if the Flanker kill was 'needed'. Since the aircraft was well inside IOK. However it was the heat of the conflict which earned us that kill.

Abhinandon was an idiot. He was supposed to launch an R77 which was to be guided by an Su30 behind him. He wanted his own kill/experience so he came in deep inside. He was given repeated warnings by his own wingman (a bison) and parent Su30 which was supposed to guide its R77s. But he ate the dust in the end.

In both engagements (MiG & SU) challenge was given by the adversary and this accepted. Hadn't Abhinandan crossed LoC & SU did not lock SL Hassan, could have been spared but MiG-21 crossed the line to challenge PAF so go the beating and similarly, SU thought to be unbeaten but challenge was accepted and given a beating of the day.

If it has to be like score kills; am sure PAF could have scored more or at-least anything that appears to be foe on that day but "Disengage" was the shout to de-escalate things. Sightly said that "Two kills were bonus" and not intended shots but they shouldn't have come to the ring to throw a challenge.

They must have learned to at-least Abhinandan stunt may never be repeated but sustaining the pressure is something else that only strong nerves will face those moments.

 

[Secret Service]

No one in India (including Modi) wants a nuclear duel with Pakistan.

They want to use conventional force and make headlines. Humiliate Pakistan.

Since years they have been shelling our border areas. We do the same. No consequences are there. No questions are asked. This time they used military jets which is a step ahead in modern warfare. They got slapped. Badly.

This played in Pakistan's favour. This is how

WHAT HAPPENED ON 27th?

The only agenda of 27th February for PAF was to obtain footage of H4 strikes inside IOK. They were to be released to the media and a new narrative/definition of 'surgical strikes' was to be set. By Pakistan this time.

On the other hand, by the grace of Allah, IAF was blessed with idiots with Wg Cmdr Abhinandan. 4 F-16's had a radar lock on this poor bastard at one time. But Wg Cmdr Nauman pressed the trigger. Splash One & the poor man landed on our soil.

The second kill of Flanker was made by S/L Hassan. When the first call of 'FOX 3' was made the pilots knew the war has started. So they resorted to engage anything they could get their hands on. This particular flanker had given a radar lock to S/L Hassan's F-16. And S/L Hassan went after him after breaking his radar lock with his own. Fired the missile and after several seconds (cannot disclose how many) the flanker was hit in the belly. A perfect shot. Even now it is being debated if the Flanker kill was 'needed'. Since the aircraft was well inside IOK. However it was the heat of the conflict which earned us that kill.

Abhinandon was an idiot. He was supposed to launch an R77 which was to be guided by an Su30 behind him. He wanted his own kill/experience so he came in deep inside. He was given repeated warnings by his own wingman (a bison) and parent Su30 which was supposed to guide its R77s. But he ate the dust in the end.

So many stories on PDF. Dont know which one to believe...

 

[MastanKhan]

and this game is played on both sides of the border, we too have experienced it in the last tenure.
but isn't it the first time we have pushed their politics to maneuver insanely?

Hi,

Thank you---.

Indeed we have this time---. We had not done it in this manner since 9/11---and we are paying a heavy price for that---.

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

No one in India (including Modi) wants a nuclear duel with Pakistan.

They want to use conventional force and make headlines. Humiliate Pakistan.

Since years they have been shelling our border areas. We do the same. No consequences are there. No questions are asked. This time they used military jets which is a step ahead in modern warfare. They got slapped. Badly.

This played in Pakistan's favour. This is how

WHAT HAPPENED ON 27th?

The only agenda of 27th February for PAF was to obtain footage of H4 strikes inside IOK. They were to be released to the media and a new narrative/definition of 'surgical strikes' was to be set. By Pakistan this time.

On the other hand, by the grace of Allah, IAF was blessed with idiots with Wg Cmdr Abhinandan. 4 F-16's had a radar lock on this poor bastard at one time. But Wg Cmdr Nauman pressed the trigger. Splash One & the poor man landed on our soil.

The second kill of Flanker was made by S/L Hassan. When the first call of 'FOX 3' was made the pilots knew the war has started. So they resorted to engage anything they could get their hands on. This particular flanker had given a radar lock to S/L Hassan's F-16. And S/L Hassan went after him after breaking his radar lock with his own. Fired the missile and after several seconds (cannot disclose how many) the flanker was hit in the belly. A perfect shot. Even now it is being debated if the Flanker kill was 'needed'. Since the aircraft was well inside IOK. However it was the heat of the conflict which earned us that kill.

Abhinandon was an idiot. He was supposed to launch an R77 which was to be guided by an Su30 behind him. He wanted his own kill/experience so he came in deep inside. He was given repeated warnings by his own wingman (a bison) and parent Su30 which was supposed to guide its R77s. But he ate the dust in the end.

So it means Pak only had one pilot

 

[airomerix]

So it means Pak only had one pilot

No we had two. The ejection sequence of Su 30 outlines a 15 degree left and 15 degree right for pilot and co pilot. The debris can fall anywhere in 5 NM radius. We have one of the guys who went 15 degree xyz.

Enough said already!

 

[TheTallGuy]

WHAT HAPPENED ON 27th?

The only agenda of 27th February for PAF was to obtain footage of H4 strikes inside IOK. They were to be released to the media and a new narrative/definition of 'surgical strikes' was to be set. By Pakistan this time.

On the other hand, by the grace of Allah, IAF was blessed with idiots with Wg Cmdr Abhinandan. 4 F-16's had a radar lock on this poor bastard at one time. But Wg Cmdr Nauman pressed the trigger. Splash One & the poor man landed on our soil.

The second kill of Flanker was made by S/L Hassan. When the first call of 'FOX 3' was made the pilots knew the war has started. So they resorted to engage anything they could get their hands on. This particular flanker had given a radar lock to S/L Hassan's F-16. And S/L Hassan went after him after breaking his radar lock with his own. Fired the missile and after several seconds (cannot disclose how many) the flanker was hit in the belly. A perfect shot. Even now it is being debated if the Flanker kill was 'needed'. Since the aircraft was well inside IOK. However it was the heat of the conflict which earned us that kill.

Abhinandon was an idiot. He was supposed to launch an R77 which was to be guided by an Su30 behind him. He wanted his own kill/experience so he came in deep inside. He was given repeated warnings by his own wingman (a bison) and parent Su30 which was supposed to guide its R77s. But he ate the dust in the end.

Respectfully care to elaborate, I had info that 2 x MiG-21BISON scrambled from Srinager AFB. 1 x crashed soon after take off. Mi-17V5 took off collected the pilot while returning got hit by IAF airbase defenses. This remaining MiG-21BISON enter LOC taken out(W/C.Nauman of CCS) and 2 x Su-30MKI that were Top cover engaged 1 x Su-30MKI that was shot down(S/L.Hassan of CCS). what about other Pilots did they also took shots Deep Inside IOK.

Care to elaborate Mirage 2000i were there as well and 4 x Su-30MKI respondents ...as you said 1st kill triggered "All you can get" for the formation .

 

[SSGcommandoPAK]

What I believe !!!
2 pilots fell in Pakistani territory,At first India denied any aircraft was shot down and no pilot was captured
DG ISPR said one pilot was in hospital other with Army - India denied !
Pakistan shows Abhinandan - India says yes one pilot is missing. no second pilot.
If we showed the second pilot on media as well they would have accepted. but we didn't.
I believe Second Pilot is still with Pakistani agencies.

 

[airomerix]

Respectfully care to elaborate, I had info that 2 x MiG-21BISON scrambled from Srinager AFB. 1 x crashed soon after take off. Mi-17V5 took off collected the pilot while returning got hit by IAF airbase defenses. This remaining MiG-21BISON enter LOC taken out(W/C.Nauman of CCS) and 2 x Su-30MKI that were Top cover engaged 1 x Su-30MKI that was shot down(S/L.Hassan of CCS). what about other Pilots did they also took shots Deep Inside IOK.

Care to elaborate Mirage 2000i were there as well and 4 x Su-30MKI respondents ...as you said 1st kill triggered "All you can get" for the formation .

Negative.

IAF did not lose two bisons. In any operation, Combat search & rescue aircraft are scrambled regardless of IAF losing anything. Several choppers of PAA were also airborne but it doesnt mean PAF lost an aircraft.

As for elaboration, I was not in the formation so I will not be able to narrate all of you first hand what happened there. But i have met some of the gentlemen who were in the formation and they did outline what went up there.