27 Feb 19: PAF shot down two Indian aircrafts inside Pakistani airspace: DG ISPR

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Cut it...
That is no way to justify Feb 26, i am not at all blaming PAF here, crossing the LOC airspace is a usual norm.

Imagine, in a hypothetical scenario, Those were MKIs with Brahmos, intended for deep strike, and crossing the LOC for 12kms was all required for them to launch it, then ?

The reason i am not blaming PAF here, is because, overall they did an excellent job. We can’t say anything as the story we all know is kinda madeup. Most of us including me don't know the real events so it would be stupid of us to carry on discussing this again and again with some modified stories by PAF even though we were victorious and downed two of their jets without any loss.

I get it but if their bombers were MKIs equipped with Brahmos than we would had conducted Feb 27 with RAAD equipped jets. P.S Feb 26 crossing is not at all difficult for both IAF and PAF, I doubt both airforces can stop such quick and limited penetration in a matter of few minutes only. All I meant was, PAF/Army was looking to teach Indians a lesson after their first drama as they wanted to created a new norm of violating Pakistani sovereignty. Feb 27 was smooth, text book operation like we knew everything what to do that day.

 

[Beast]

American machines are the key !!!
No matter how much China advances, USA has took enough time to produce best usable machines, AI is on top level.

India has allies from Europe, US, Russia and Israel but only one major countries excluded. It shall not be surprised , India has long consulted Israel for their F-16 and Sweden for their Saab but they couldn't figure out anything from Chinese product.

 

[StormBreaker]

India has allies from Europe, US, Russia and Israel but only one major countries excluded. It shall not be surprised , India has long consulted Israel for their F-16 and Sweden for their Saab but they couldn't figure out anything from Chinese product.

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I am not degrading Chinese equipments here, just making statements on the basis of real life examples and the Amazing streak US origin Weapons have in Pak Military in terms of successes.

Chinese are quite silent when it comes to marketing their products and potential so I can’t say anything here, could be great, could be sub standard, nothing...

 

[Beast]

I am not degrading Chinese equipments here, just making statements on the basis of real life examples and the Amazing streak US origin Weapons have in Pak Military in terms of successes.

Chinese are quite silent when it comes to marketing their products and potential so I can’t say anything here, could be great, could be sub standard, nothing...

The US even ready to offer the best F-16 version out there for India but rejected. I don't think F-16 nor the link-16 is so great that the India will reject it. It's no secret, Israel or Europe arm dealer are more willing to share more secret with India due to their deep pockets. India shall have done enough homework from those arm supplier. Think about it. What other key arm products that India can't access makes the difference?

Chinese are unlike American who has no reservation about boasting and bragging. They prefer to continue keep the element of surprised. What I want to say is the key different between IAF and PAF are the JF-17 and ZDK-03 AWACS. Other than that, most of what PAF has in their sleeves are no secret as more advance Israel F-16 version has long study by Indians. So can be say about Saab-2000 which is exported to many countries.

 

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The US even ready to offer the best F-16 version out there for India but rejected. I don't think F-16 nor the link-16 is so great that the India will reject it. It's no secret, Israel or Europe arm dealer are more willing to share more secret with India due to their deep pockets. India shall have done enough homework from those arm supplier. Think about it. What other key arm products that India can't access makes the difference?

India is avoiding F-16s due to PAF’s familiarity with the platform as well as India’s different plans

 

[Beast]

India is avoiding F-16s due to PAF’s familiarity with the platform as well as India’s different plans

That is one of the reason but if F-16 can really make such a big difference especially better than everything they got in their inventory. Why didn't they go for it? You have to admit American are ready to offer the best F-16 build solely for IAF. Better than PAF BLK 52. This is a fact.

The only thing IAF can't use money to buy is JF-17 and ZDK-03. And they don't know a single thing about these planes.. Nothing. When u don't know something , that is where the most dangerous threat comes.

 

[CrazyZ]

India has allies from Europe, US, Russia and Israel but only one major countries excluded. It shall not be surprised , India has long consulted Israel for their F-16 and Sweden for their Saab but they couldn't figure out anything from Chinese product.

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Chinese military technology has advanced at an amazing level. No doubt Chinese military tech was a key factor in our success but can not be completely revealed for operational secrecy reasons.

 

[Beast]

Chinese military technology has advanced at an amazing level. No doubt Chinese military tech was a key factor in our success but can not be completely revealed for operational secrecy reasons.

I still remember the kargil war in 1999 when IAF pit PAF due to the available of their mirage 2000 and BVRAAM mica. While China can't do Jack sh*t comparable for PAF as we have nothing in our inventory.

Now in 2019, IAF can't do anything against PAF due to strong and unknown ECM available. And we know where the difference came from.

 

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No proof that a Flanker was shot down

 

[Windjammer]

No proof that a Flanker was shot down

How many times have you repeated the same line but then again.....

 

[gangsta_rap]

How many times have you repeated the same line but then again.....

No neutral source that can verify or confirm this claim. If there were one it would certainly strengthen the argument but that's not the case now is it?

 

[Windjammer]

No neutral source that can verify or confirm this claim. If there were one it would certainly strengthen the argument but that's not the case now is it?

What would you call a neutral source....BS Dhanoa.
Or do you think Santa delivered that piece of AMRAAM to Indians as a late X-mas present.

 

[gangsta_rap]

What would you call a neutral source....BS Dhanoa.

Any source from outside of south asia where they directly state the point rather than repeating it in second hand.

A report from either the US or the EU would be ideal.

 

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