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This is just an analysis
27 Feb 19: PAF shot down two Indian aircrafts inside Pakistani airspace: DG ISPR
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NA71
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Nope....wait for few days...we are in talks.
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Source of your information? We were in talks since 2005 ... we signed an MOU in 2007 but then scrap the idea considering that J10 capabilities are more of less equivalent to JF17 ...
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Seems we need an urgent PL-15 carrier
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pl15 can be integrated with thunder as well ... what do you think, we will buy J10 and today they will be delivered tomorrow and we will start flying them from day after tomorrow ?
Even if we buy them today it will take atleast couple of years just to deliver and integrate on fast pace basis and in normal circumtances it will take double the time ...
For immediate need PAF is looking for Thuner block 3 , some more F16s (old) to fill the numbers gap as they will be flyable from day 1 and for long term we are going for 5th generation ...
Sooner or later f16s is going to be at same status that mirrage currently has in our arsenal ... If nobody shows intererst in F16 V then production for f16 will be stopped for good ... then we can buy them in good quantities as our second work horse and fifth generation as our top end fighter ... This is going to happen in next 5 to 10 years ....
Unless we feel desperate (which we are not, reference to the cucrrent performance of thunder) we will not buy and platform before fifth generation comes in
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really sir? . people were saying its a PS and cant be integrated with blk 2 radarAlready integrated
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You bad old man,you are scaring off our future tea guests from East.Already integrated
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If true... Then in next episode PAF will sure bomb Indian parliament in new delhi...Already integrated
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A Chinese source would be a lot more credible.
Anyway, aren't the Chinese too busy building these for the PLAAF? They are more likely to prioritise their own air forces needs over PAF.
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Its not just the avionics and missile. We need aircraft performance to enhance the missile ranges. Both for PL-12 & PL-15
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On how many aircraft? Or only Block 2? You guys in the know just give one liners and leave the rest of us desperate for more
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Good piece ....worth reading :
India and Pakistan may well shape up to be the modern counterpart to Cold-War-divided Germany. Kashmir, then, is the new Berlin: divided, tense, full of intrigue. The two superpowers have found two very dangerous proxies to engage in shadow play.
The military confrontation, meanwhile, has developed its own dynamic. As Arzan Tarapore writes at War on the Rocks:
India demonstrated a new appetite for imposing costs on Pakistan, and especially for crossing thresholds and accepting risk. Its actions probably still won’t deter Pakistan, though they will make the next crisis more dangerous. India may now assess that henceforth it can strike its neighbor, absorb a proportionate Pakistani retaliation, and safely de-escalate later in a crisis. But with Pakistan now more concerned about its own deterrent, this crisis may induce both sides to take riskier action next time.
Such riskier actions could escalate all the way to the nuclear level. And the consequences of a nuclear exchange would be considerably worse than what’s depicted in The City of Devi. If the two sides only use only a portion of their nuclear arsenals, it would kill millions of people on the subcontinent and also have a devastating impact worldwide. A partial nuclear winter would settle upon the planet: the resulting hunger, drought, and disease would kill as many as 2 billion people.
Now that the acute crisis has passed, regional actors have to use this reprieve to defuse the world’s most dangerous nuclear faultline. Those efforts have to begin with Kashmir. Fortunately, the difficult task of working out a joint resolution to the problem has already been done, back in the mid-2000s. As Ahmed Rashid points out:
Indian and Pakistani envoys agreed to make the Line of Control, the heavily militarized border between the Indian and Pakistani-controlled portions of Kashmir, irrelevant by giving the Kashmiris the right to free movement and trade across the line. They agreed upon providing autonomy to Kashmir’s subregions and drawing down forces as violence receded. They also agreed to establish a body of Kashmiris, Indians, and Pakistanis, vaguely described as a “joint mechanism,” to oversee the political and economic rights of the Kashmiris on both sides of the line.
Khan seems amenable to revisiting this deal; Modi will not budge until after the elections. The missing ingredient at this point is pressure from outside the subcontinent. Here, the cluelessness of the Trump administration and the unraveling U.S.-China relationship serve as significant obstacles.
But maybe India and Pakistan will show more sense than their respective backers. These are ancient civilizations that have weathered many previous storms. Now they just have to team up to avoid a nuclear winter.
https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/03/18/the-worlds-most-dangerous-divide/
India and Pakistan may well shape up to be the modern counterpart to Cold-War-divided Germany. Kashmir, then, is the new Berlin: divided, tense, full of intrigue. The two superpowers have found two very dangerous proxies to engage in shadow play.
The military confrontation, meanwhile, has developed its own dynamic. As Arzan Tarapore writes at War on the Rocks:
India demonstrated a new appetite for imposing costs on Pakistan, and especially for crossing thresholds and accepting risk. Its actions probably still won’t deter Pakistan, though they will make the next crisis more dangerous. India may now assess that henceforth it can strike its neighbor, absorb a proportionate Pakistani retaliation, and safely de-escalate later in a crisis. But with Pakistan now more concerned about its own deterrent, this crisis may induce both sides to take riskier action next time.
Such riskier actions could escalate all the way to the nuclear level. And the consequences of a nuclear exchange would be considerably worse than what’s depicted in The City of Devi. If the two sides only use only a portion of their nuclear arsenals, it would kill millions of people on the subcontinent and also have a devastating impact worldwide. A partial nuclear winter would settle upon the planet: the resulting hunger, drought, and disease would kill as many as 2 billion people.
Now that the acute crisis has passed, regional actors have to use this reprieve to defuse the world’s most dangerous nuclear faultline. Those efforts have to begin with Kashmir. Fortunately, the difficult task of working out a joint resolution to the problem has already been done, back in the mid-2000s. As Ahmed Rashid points out:
Indian and Pakistani envoys agreed to make the Line of Control, the heavily militarized border between the Indian and Pakistani-controlled portions of Kashmir, irrelevant by giving the Kashmiris the right to free movement and trade across the line. They agreed upon providing autonomy to Kashmir’s subregions and drawing down forces as violence receded. They also agreed to establish a body of Kashmiris, Indians, and Pakistanis, vaguely described as a “joint mechanism,” to oversee the political and economic rights of the Kashmiris on both sides of the line.
Khan seems amenable to revisiting this deal; Modi will not budge until after the elections. The missing ingredient at this point is pressure from outside the subcontinent. Here, the cluelessness of the Trump administration and the unraveling U.S.-China relationship serve as significant obstacles.
But maybe India and Pakistan will show more sense than their respective backers. These are ancient civilizations that have weathered many previous storms. Now they just have to team up to avoid a nuclear winter.
https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/03/18/the-worlds-most-dangerous-divide/
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Already integrated, tested and in-service. This is what tension periods do, they bring plans to execution. PAF now has a credible BVR deterrent that goes beyond anything US can provide. More good news to follow. Sit tight.
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