27/2 PAF Strikes in IoK- India's Other Major Losses on the ground l DG ISPR confirms.

[kris]

When the Indian PM openly said that ''If India had Rafales, we wouldn't have suffered so much damage'', it was obvious that he wasn't just talking about the loss of few IAF aircraft that were shot down by the PAF. However, as happens news gradually creeps out.
In it's operations across the LOC, PAF engaged some half a dozen ground targets, but as repeatedly mentioned, the mission was not to destroy these ground targets but hit the adjacent areas to deliver the message. Apart from giving a violent wake up call the the Indian Army Chief resting in the Brigade HQ, PAF also targeted the grounds of a huge Arms & Ammunition supply facility of Indian Army. Albeit, not directly hit but the shock waves and vibrations from 1000 kg bombs had all but collapsed the structure and caused tons of shells to fall down resulting in their fuses being made redundant.

If a fuse of shell becomes redundant by falling down, can it really sustain the shock when fired

 

[Windjammer]

If a fuse of shell becomes redundant by falling down, can it really sustain the shock when fired

Every one is an expert.....do you even know how the system works.

 

[RIP Pak LAW]

That's what I have said multiple times in the forum that Indians are conveniently ignoring the fact that PAF humiliated Indians by bombing them on 6 different locations yet they don't want to talk about it. It was proper surgical strike by Pakistan with a clear intent. Indians didn't had the balls for a counter strike immediately.

PAF violated Indian sovereignty by bombing them here and there... Why didn't IAF strike back?

Why don't these loser indians question their airforce and Modi govt about it? By remaining silent means that they have accepted Pakistani tit for tat response and don't want further escalation with PAF, in other words, chicken out.

 

[Secret Service]

Zombielands nightmares coming true..

 

[Vortex]

Foreign journalists were quick to arrive at the scene of the Indian strike at Balakot. How come non of them showed up at the locations of the Pakistani strikes in Indian occupied Kashmir?

Some of them are probably agents.

In France we have some army men who are in daily life business owner, engineer etc. And when need arise, army call them back in their secret unit, give them 6weeks hard training and then assign them a mission.

I’m not telling you that from a source like a friend having a chacha who was told. No but I saw myself an article in french tv news channel several years ago. Those guys then go in foreign countries as civilians on business purposes. And do their missions of essentially spying while doing business.

 

[Khafee]

Some of them are probably agents.

In France we have some army men who are in daily life business owner, engineer etc. And when need arise, army call them back in their secret unit, give them 6weeks hard training and then assign them a mission.

I’m not telling you that from a source like a friend having a chacha who was told. No but I saw myself an article in french tv news channel several years ago. Those guys then go in foreign countries as civilians on business purposes. And do their missions of essentially spying while doing business.

A lot of countries, do the same. "Business man" is a very convenient cover.

 

[Dushyant]

That's what I have said multiple times in the forum that Indians are conveniently ignoring the fact that PAF humiliated Indians by bombing them on 6 different locations yet they don't want to talk about it. It was proper surgical strike by Pakistan with a clear intent. Indians didn't had the balls for a counter strike immediately.

PAF violated Indian sovereignty by bombing them here and there... Why didn't IAF strike back?

Why don't these loser indians question their airforce and Modi govt about it? By remaining silent means that they have accepted Pakistani tit for tat response and don't want further escalation with PAF, in other words, chicken out.

The air raids from both parties proved only one point - Both countries are not in position to prevent supersonic jets from entering and deploying their ammo unless they have prior intel of upcoming raids. intel wins mordern battles. That also means in future war , if it comes down to survival of any of the two parties here, whoever decides to use Nukes first will go to bed happier.

 

[RIP Pak LAW]

The air raids from both parties proved only one point - Both countries are not in position to prevent supersonic jets from entering and deploying their ammo unless they have prior intel of upcoming raids. intel wins mordern battles. That also means in future war , if it comes down to survival of any of the two parties here, whoever decides to use Nukes first will go to bed happier.

Yes and I agree. Modi govt should now realise that so called surgical strikes dramas, are not an option anymore.

 

[Dushyant]

Yes and I agree. Modi govt should now realise that so called surgical strikes dramas, are not an option anymore.

I think he has , and its even more dangerous thing to happen.

 

[Falcon26]

Some of them are probably agents.

In France we have some army men who are in daily life business owner, engineer etc. And when need arise, army call them back in their secret unit, give them 6weeks hard training and then assign them a mission.

I’m not telling you that from a source like a friend having a chacha who was told. No but I saw myself an article in french tv news channel several years ago. Those guys then go in foreign countries as civilians on business purposes. And do their missions of essentially spying while doing business.

Pakistan’s intent was always clear: to dominate the escalation ladder. India had no stomach and backed off. Sensible decision considering how their AD systems were disabled and started shooting down their own helicopters. It was a total mayhem for the Indians.

 

[Windjammer]

Where is this audio file?

Secondly, guys i recently came across a blog of Tom Cooper from f16.net who claims to have sources inside PAF and implies that we did lose an F16 on 27th Feb! The manner of strike by Mig21 indicates a well rehearsed manoeuvre that bison fighters regularly and successfully used during COPE India 2004 exercises when up against USAF Hornets.

I keep going to the youtube clip made by the locals showing the dogfight on 27th Feb. I can't seem to understand where did the other 2 parachutes go and what about the initial statement by DGISPR?! Doubts keep cropping up!

You should change your flags before someone does it for you.

Pakistan’s intent was always clear: to dominate the escalation ladder. India had no stomach and backed off. Sensible decision considering how their AD systems were disabled and started shooting down their own helicopters. It was a total mayhem for the Indians.

They have stopped using their SU-30s for CAPS close to LOC.
Basically out ranged and outgunned by the PAF's BVR capability.

 

[Falcon26]

Where is this audio file?

Secondly, guys i recently came across a blog of Tom Cooper from f16.net who claims to have sources inside PAF and implies that we did lose an F16 on 27th Feb! The manner of strike by Mig21 indicates a well rehearsed manoeuvre that bison fighters regularly and successfully used during COPE India 2004 exercises when up against USAF Hornets.

I keep going to the youtube clip made by the locals showing the dogfight on 27th Feb. I can't seem to understand where did the other 2 parachutes go and what about the initial statement by DGISPR?! Doubts keep cropping up!

If Abhinandan had shot down an F-16, he would have been given a hero’s welcome and been all over the media doing interviews etc. the fact that all his AAMs are in Pakistan hands doesn’t help this argument. It also doesn’t help that the IAF immediately discharged him and are now talking of court martialing their personnel involved in the skirmish. Indian claims shouldn’t be talked serious and I request moderators to immediately delete some of these outlandish claims that have zero factual value. Intent seems to spread confusion.

 

[Hassannn85]

You should change your flags before someone does it for you.

Lol. I was hoping to get some knowledgeable members clarify and help rid me of these doubts. I do not have a military background or possess ample knowledge in such matters.

But my friend you have stooped low!

 

[Falcon26]

You should change your flags before someone does it for you.


They have stopped using their SU-30s for CAPS close to LOC.
Basically out ranged and outgunned by the PAF's BVR capability.

Do you remember this clip from the 1965 war in which a PAF pilot says to the BBC journalists that the UK should stop selling weapons to the Indians since they are doing a giving poor reputation to British products? History repeated itself in 2019. The Indians made a mockery of otherwise reputable Israeli and Russian weapon systems.

 

[Hassannn85]

If Abhinandan had shot down an F-16, he would have been given a hero’s welcome and been all over the media doing interviews etc. the fact that all his AAMs are in Pakistan hands doesn’t help this argument. It also doesn’t help that the IAF immediately discharged him and are now talking of court martialing their personnel involved in the skirmish. Indian claims shouldn’t be talked serious and I request moderators to immediately delete some of these outlandish claims that have zero factual value. Intent seems to spread confusion.

As per media reports he has rejoined his sqdn in Srinagar.