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22 Indian security personnel killed in Naxal attack in Chhattisgarh

It is well known that these armed rebels named Naxallite or Maoist controlled the rural districts of Central and North Western parts of Indian subcontinent for a long long time.

India do have and will face more and more of its own domestic problems ahead and I won't like to discuss about them.
Extreme poverty has risen 60% since the pandemic.

It really begins with: Is India really doing that well as Modi and some are trying to portray in here?
 
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It's no biggie to get ammo in India. Several web series being featured on Netflix, Amazon Prime showcase the gun culture in UP, Bihar where guns/ammo are manufactured illegally in sweat shops. OFBs originally having a commie culture also have backdoors to support naxal movement

Secondly, when I mentioned these naxals loot guns from police stations or ambushes, they literally loot everything from ammo catridges, boots, BPJs, helmets etc

A week after Sukma encounter, Maoists release photographs of modern weapons Possessed from CRPF


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https://www.redspark.nu/en/peoples-...graphs-of-modern-weapons-possessed-from-crpf/

You can believe all the propaganda posted on this forum by your fellow pakistanis that naxals use ancient weapons but that is not really the case anymore. Again, I do agree we have lapses on our end since most of these ops are headed by civil officers (IAS/IPS) who have no clue in military ops. All they look for is getting transferred to a better place.
One reason both Andhra & Telangana saw a drastic downfall of their naxal cadres is due to AP police Greyhound units which are their anti-naxal commandos who're significantly well trained and better equipped. The org structure and planning is also robust and is on par with BSF. AP/TG and Orissa were able to largely eliminate naxals ever since BSF took over since they perceived and acted purely as a military op overseen by BSF planners while Greyhounds acted as a special ops support unit



This here is not about religion. If religion solves all probles, why are middle eastern muslim states in a chaos. Also, Nepal state isn't supporting but some of their commie groups facilitate this. Most of Indo-Nepal border isn't really guarded and there are several areas you could sneak this stuff in

.....OFBs originally having a commie culture also have backdoors to support naxal movement....

You need lots of reading...!
Every person with left leaning ideology is not Not Naxal. If you oppose free market and neo-liberism, you don't become Naxal automatically.
There is history of left movement in India, there is difference between Maoists and other leftists. Please read,
Hello Bastar by Rahul Pandita.
Fractured Freedom by Kobad Gandhy
Revolutionary violence Vs Democracy by Ajay Gudavarthy.


There are many other references, but this will be good for making a start.
 
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It is well known that these armed rebels named Naxallite or Maoist controlled the rural districts of Central and North Western parts of Indian subcontinent for a long long time.

India do have and will face more and more of its own domestic problems ahead and I won't like to discuss about them.
Extreme poverty has risen 60% since the pandemic.

It really begins with: Is India really doing that well as Modi and some are trying to portray in here?
Do you think after Doklam, there are chances of surge in attacks by Naxals or this has nothing to do with China?
 
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Do you think after Doklam, there are chances of surge in attacks by Naxals or this has nothing to do with China?
The day of our govt spreading ideologey, military consultant,arsenal has long gone..it was once like wild fire throughout Asia, Africa, South America even when we our homeland was dirt poor.
If there is ever a changing policy, then with our current wealth and tech, you wouldn't be just seeing this small scale rusty ak, homemade hunting gun ambushes.
 
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Do you think after Doklam, there are chances of surge in attacks by Naxals or this has nothing to do with China?
Am I surprised by yoir reaction?

Naturally not.

China has always been an easy bogeyman for Indian politicians.

Yet, yet not one weapon used by the Naxallite is identified from China.

Trust me if China were to play the Naxallite cards, India will be in worst situation.

So stop pointing finger and deal with India's own domestic issues first.

Four months has passed, the farmers are still protesting in New Delhi.
 
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.....OFBs originally having a commie culture also have backdoors to support naxal movement....

You need lots of reading...!
Every person with left leaning ideology is not Not Naxal. If you oppose free market and neo-liberism, you don't become Naxal automatically.
There is history of left movement in India, there is difference between Maoists and other leftists. Please read,
Hello Bastar by Rahul Pandita.
Fractured Freedom by Kobad Gandhy
Revolutionary violence Vs Democracy by Ajay Gudavarthy.


There are many other references, but this will be good for making a start.
You need to improvise your comprehension skills. I never said every person with a left leaning ideology is a naxal. My point is naxals did receive backdoor support from certain sects of these OFBs
 
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Naxals have released the picture of war booty captured from Indian security forces. @Baibars_1260
 
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Naxals have released the picture of war booty captured from Indian security forces. @Baibars_1260

Interesting . There are 10 AKMs and one INSAS rifle.
Note the obsolete L4A4 ( 1B LMG ) light machine gun captured .
This is a Bren gun ( or Vickers Berthier ), conversion to use 7.62 X 51 mm cartridges, and the magazine is inter-changeable with the FN L1A1 ( Ishapore SLR ).

That is 3 types of ammunition in use.
What is curious is the large number of magazines; about 49, mainly of the AKM type; though there are four 30 round L4A4 magazines. Also why do they have such a large amount of loose ammunition. The security forces would not be carrying their ammunition loose but in magazines. Those captured magazines are most certainly empty. But it is a tedious task stripping out ammunition from a magazine just for a display. This implies the Naxalites may have looted the ammunition from a truck carrying reserve ammunition in sealed containers.

Not sure if this picture really represents all the weapons captured. The press reports claimed more INSAS rifles has been captured.

Thanks for sharing.
 
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Interesting . There are 10 AKMs and one INSAS rifle.
Note the obsolete L4A4 ( 1B LMG ) light machine gun captured .
This is a Bren gun ( or Vickers Berthier ), conversion to use 7.62 X 51 mm cartridges, and the magazine is inter-changeable with the FN L1A1 ( Ishapore SLR ).

That is 3 types of ammunition in use.
What is curious is the large number of magazines; about 49, mainly of the AKM type; though there are four 30 round L4A4 magazines. Also why do they have such a large amount of loose ammunition. The security forces would not be carrying their ammunition loose but in magazines. Those captured magazines are most certainly empty. But it is a tedious task stripping out ammunition from a magazine just for a display. This implies the Naxalites may have looted the ammunition from a truck carrying reserve ammunition in sealed containers.

Not sure if this picture really represents all the weapons captured. The press reports claimed more INSAS rifles has been captured.

Thanks for sharing.
As media reported that Indian forces were planning to launch a search operation, it seems plausible that an ammo truck or storage was looted after the encounter. Do we have seen any sniper with Naxalites?
 
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its like the Indian army is only good at surrendering
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Oh and raping children




Indian army = child rapist.
 
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As media reported that Indian forces were planning to launch a search operation, it seems plausible that an ammo truck or storage was looted after the encounter. Do we have seen any sniper with Naxalites?
So far we have not seen long range sniper rifles ( or even scope equipped hunting rifles ) with the Naxalites. Naxalites have been seen with high quality vintage civilian hunting rifles looted from hunters which can be used for sniping, but these are all with iron sights and not equipped with scopes. India does not import civilian hunting scopes anymore so access to these are limited . Even if the Naxalites did get modern hunting scopes, fitting and zeroing these on to a vintage rifle is technically very difficult. Additionally snipers need to practice on a range and the sound of range practice training would attract the attention of the security forces.

If the Naxalites have snipers, these would be using looted sniping rifles but of what type is unclear.
The security forces may be using Dragunov SVD, Steyr SSG 69 type rifles but these are used mainly by the Indian Army. The local district reserve police may have dedicated snipers.

It is possible that some hunters, who are sufficiently competent in long range hunting shots, may have joined the Naxalites, and they may simply be using vintage high quality civilian hunting rifles with accurate iron sights. But hunting has long since been banned in India, so the capabilities of civilians in hunting rifles is practically non-existent.
In fact overall India, which once had an enthusiastic legal civilian gun ownership, has practically lost all the civilian capabilities in firearms proficiency. Civilian competency is restricted to a few dozen professional competition shooters for international events ( Olympics etc, ). Due to restrictive laws all the civilian firearms competency is with criminals and terrorists.

But what I am saying is pure conjecture. So far there is no open source photographic confirmation showing Naxalites equipped with sniping rifles.
@PanzerKiel
 
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So far we have not seen long range sniper rifles ( or even scope equipped hunting rifles ) with the Naxalites. Naxalites have been seen with high quality vintage civilian hunting rifles looted from hunters which can be used for sniping, but these are all with iron sights and not equipped with scopes. India does not import civilian hunting scopes anymore so access to these are limited . Even if the Naxalites did get modern hunting scopes, fitting and zeroing these on to a vintage rifle is technically very difficult. Additionally snipers need to practice on a range and the sound of range practice training would attract the attention of the security forces.

If the Naxalites have snipers, these would be looted sniping rifles but of what type is unclear.
The security forces may be using Dragunov SVD, Steyr SSG 69 type rifles but these are used mainly by the Indian Army. The local district reserve police may have dedicated snipers.

It is possible that some hunters, who are sufficiently competent in long range hunting shots, may have joined the Naxalites, and they may simply be using vintage high quality civilian hunting rifles with accurate iron sights. But hunting has long since been banned in India, so the capabilities of civilians in hunting rifles is practically non-existent.
In fact overall India, which once had an enthusiastic legal civilian gun ownership, has practically lost all the civilian capabilities in firearms proficiency. Civilian competency is restricted to a few dozen professional competition shooters for international events ( Olympics etc, ). Due to restrictive laws all the civilian firearms competency is with criminals and terrorists.

But what I am saying is pure conjecture. So far there is no open source photographic confirmation showing Naxalites equipped with sniping rifles.


Didn't you say this

Biharis are a heavily armed people ( like FATA in Pakistan) with a high per capita individual gun ownership. Biharis are extremely volatile if they are slighted. Bihar is a lawless province of India. With a linguistic, ethnic, and parochial minds

@Baibars_1260
 
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