2014 is not 1962 - Indian Much Better Prepared for Chinese Challenge

[Dalit]

What about the preparation of feeding millions of starving people? Just sick and tired of this meaningless muscle flexing.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

ah, but are those posts actually true? lets look.


obviously and laughably false



tired argument but none the less it is true that almost half the population has no access to a restroom



more like 3-4 years



it was 5.3% actually

India GDP Annual Growth Rate | 1951-2014 | Data | Chart | Calendar



theres a large number of muslims, but unlikely to reach 50%, not anytime soon anyhow.



well this is conspiracy lvl stuff



it already has, its call the war of 1962, where by that policy was never seriously considered again



he did, right at the end of mao's GLF



relative to others, no. imperial china of the past was far stronger relative to others, relative to modern china, absolutely.



no comment on hopes.

You talk sense. I don't agree or disagree with you, just mentioned the posts in a pre-emptive summary.

 

[timetravel]

Then be prepared to loose ur money

So you suggest India would loose to China ? You seem overconfident of PLA and same time understating IA ?

I would win. Do you have confidence of putting money on China to win a war with India?

 

[Shinigami]

What about the preparation of feeding millions of starving people? Just sick and tired of this meaningless muscle flexing.

going along just fine.

pakistan needs to learn this from india

 

[SarthakGanguly]

LOL, sounds like one of my posts.

On topic I find it a bit disgusting (no offense) how the article was boasting about how their soldiers fought against overwhelming odds during 1962.

How honorable can a person be, while in the middle of attacking someone who was starving to death?

Is there honor in attacking China while we were dying from starvation?

It's easy to kick someone when they are down.

1. Mao starved the Chinese, there even was deliberate neo Sovietization (like 1930s Ukraine). Not our fault.

2. India was weak and China knew it was an opportunity they would not like to miss.

3. India did some provoking with pickets (!) and China responded with 4 full strength divisions and captured half of Arunanchal Pradesh and started facing supply problems. Winter was approaching and only one pass supplied the Chinese in the East and 2 in the West. In most places the Chinese faced only a handful of pickets and isolated posts that they were able to overwhelm in force. The Indians suffered heavy casualties, yet they fought to their last bullet(actually only 50 per person were assigned as Nehru truly believed that China would be brought to the table on his terms and not butcher his puny mini-posts). Then they withdrew back to the lines that both claimed was the McMahon line (in the East)! Then what on Earth was the need to do all that? It was done for strategic reasons. The Great Leap Forward was killing 1000 times more Chinese than on the Front. Internal dissent was high and the International comm was busy with the Cuba Missile Crisis. So, India was made a convenient enemy, a soft target that they could punch and shift the focus of the people.

Nehru was made to believe until October even by Chinese dignitaries that they will not resort to force. This gave Nehru a false impression that China is willing to talk and his marking of the line (Forward Policy) was successful. Only on 1 occasion did India cross the Mc Mahon line. Certainly not an excuse to start a war with such overwhelming force. OTH it was a brilliant strategy by China and very honorable to shoot down Indian soldiers without artillery on the Indian side of the Line with heavy artillery shifted from Taiwan front(US ships around Taiwan had moved to Cuba).

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

1. Mao starved the Chinese, there even was deliberate neo Sovietization (like 1930s Ukraine). Not our fault.

2. India was weak and China knew it was an opportunity they would not like to miss.

3. India did some provoking with pickets (!) and China responded with 4 full strength divisions and captured half of Arunanchal Pradesh and started facing supply problems. Winter was approaching and only one pass supplied the Chinese in the East and 2 in the West. In most places the Chinese faced only a handful of pickets and isolated posts that they were able to overwhelm in force. The Indians suffered heavy casualties, yet they fought to their last bullet(actually only 50 per person were assigned as Nehru truly believed that China would be brought to the table on his terms and not butcher his puny mini-posts). Then they withdrew back to the lines that both claimed was the McMahon line (in the East)! Then what on Earth was the need to do all that? It was done for strategic reasons. The Great Leap Forward was killing 1000 times more Chinese than on the Front. Internal dissent was high and the International comm was busy with the Cuba Missile Crisis. So, India was made a convenient enemy, a soft target that they could punch and shift the focus of the people.

Nehru was made to believe until October even by Chinese dignitaries that they will not resort to force. This gave Nehru a false impression that China is willing to talk and his marking of the line (Forward Policy) was successful. Only on 1 occasion did India cross the Mc Mahon line. Certainly not an excuse to start a war with such overwhelming force. OTH it was a brilliant strategy by China and very honorable to shoot down Indian soldiers without artillery on the Indian side of the Line with heavy artillery shifted from Taiwan front(US ships around Taiwan had moved to Cuba).

That's a funny theory.

Doesn't explain why Indian Army posts were North of the MacMahon line, in land they did not even claim.

It was India that started the Forward Policy, not us. We just responded to it, and beat India down. Even a starving China could do that easily.

 

[timetravel]

That's a funny theory.

Doesn't explain why Indian Army posts were North of the MacMahon line, in land they did not even claim.

It was India that started the Forward Policy, not us. We just responded to it, and beat India down. Even a starving China could do that easily.

it is clear you have no words left.. you have lost this debate.

"Starving China" anything else?

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

it is clear you have no words left.. you have lost this debate.

"Starving China" anything else?

Lost what debate?

Even the Indian Army itself has already admitted: "India cannot match China by any conventional or non-conventional means, and the gap is growing larger every day".

Which makes sense because China's GDP is $10.4 trillion, even our $4 trillion currency reserves are more than double the Indian GDP. And our military spending is soaring. You have no chance of matching us.

Even the Indian Army itself admitted it.

 

[timetravel]

Lost what debate?

Even the Indian Army itself has already admitted: "India cannot match China by any conventional or non-conventional means, and the gap is growing larger every day".

Which makes sense because China's GDP is $10.4 trillion, even our $4 trillion currency reserves are more than double the Indian GDP. And our military spending is soaring. You have no chance of matching us.

Even the Indian Army itself admitted it.

Are we talking about your wasted investments here or about a war.

(Between Battle Hardened IA and Human Wave Dependent PLA)

 

[Indian_Devil]

this is the nation where millions peoples starve to death but they spend billion dollars to buy jets and weapons every year

Better than an another country whose president advised to eat grass for a century to become a nuclear power....

 

[Shinigami]

That's a funny theory.

Doesn't explain why Indian Army posts were North of the MacMahon line, in land they did not even claim.

It was India that started the Forward Policy, not us. We just responded to it, and beat India down. Even a starving China could do that easily.

indian army of1962 consisted of a few 1000 men armed with sticks and stones against a massive PLA human wave that outnumbered it 25:1 initially and 10:1 towards the end. nobody should face those odds


In the words of a pakistani analyst:


Till 1965 Pakistan Army keeping in view its equipment and training was relatively superior to the Indian Army.India under Nehru was a peaceful country but the Sino-Indian Conflict of 1962 transformed the whole scenario.Thus while Indian Army had by and large registered no major expansion since 1947 after 1962 the Indians embarked on a highly ambitious expansion programme.It was Pakistan’s good luck that in 1965 this process was at a very rudimentary stage, however by 1971 the whole strategic scenario had changed

 

[SpArK]

Today's most active GDP, poverty thread.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Are we talking about your wasted investments here or about a war.

(Between Battle Hardened IA and Human Wave Dependent PLA)

LOL.

If you have the guts, then next time there is a "Chinese incursion", instead of crying like Modi did... next time use force to throw them out.

Then we'll see how much the balance of power really has changed. You couldn't even beat us when we were at our weakest point in 1962, now let's see if you can beat us at our strongest point in the past few hundred years.

 

[timetravel]

LOL.

If you have the guts, then next time there is a "Chinese incursion", instead of crying like Modi did... next time use force to throw them out.

Then we'll see how much the balance of power really has changed. You couldn't even beat us when we were at our weakest point in 1962, now let's see if you can beat us at our strongest point in the past few hundred years.

We throw out PLA without firing a bullet. lol

That's the might of IA.

 

[帅的一匹]

There is a moutain Hymalaya laid between China and India, so no chance a large scale land war breaking out.

LOL.

If you have the guts, then next time there is a "Chinese incursion", instead of crying like Modi did... next time use force to throw them out.

Then we'll see how much the balance of power really has changed. You couldn't even beat us when we were at our weakest point in 1962, now let's see if you can beat us at our strongest point in the past few hundred years.

Both forces had made huge progress, but i think China is stronger. Be it infrastructure, weapon indigenization rate, production capacity, human resource, operational tactics. I hope no war.