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2011 Poverty Rates in South Asia

Historically poverty rate of Bangladesh and erstwhile Eastbengal was way above than India due to less urbanization and history of 150 years of property/landless people. Then again the political and economic unstability in Pakistan which further deteriorated the situation. Throuhout the history of Pakistan era, East Pakistan's per capita income fell every year and it was only in 1960s under Ayub Khan it found a upward trend yet by 1971 it was still less than 1947. 70's and 80's were really trying years for Bangladesh and were reshaping as a country rather working on economic development.

It is only recently when BD's rate of urbanization and rate of falling poverty shown some good result. We have now the fastest growing urban population, fastest growin industrial workforce and fastest reduction of poverty rate in South Asia. So you should not be surprised in seeing some of the numbers look better than India and it will continue. You may have the better per capita income but when comes to rate of poverty reduction and change of profession of the agro people, and the rate of urbanization, it is Bangladesh which is doing far better than India.

My 2 cents

Not contesting any of that. But you can't really compare the rate of things in India and Bangladesh.

And urbanization is pretty much the only way for Bangladesh to reduce property, lack of land/resources. India will never see the same level, speed of urbanization(% wise).

I hope Bangladesh does even better in future:tup:
 
Not contesting any of that. But you can't really compare the rate of things in India and Bangladesh.

And urbanization is pretty much the only way for Bangladesh to reduce property, lack of land/resources. India will never see the same level, speed of urbanization(% wise).

I hope Bangladesh does even better in future:tup:

Roy, just let time talk. Going forward in the Delhi Mumbai corridor, India plans to build 24 cities. Let us see how the future pans out. Let s just appreciate Bangladesh and wait for our time to come :coffee:
 
And yet you accuse your government of being a dalal and do not remotely attribute this to anything the government has done.\

Surprising .... Well done Hasina ji !

Well, it is a eshtablished theory in BD that no government will be able to come back to power for consecutive terms. Its because , the service delivery of the governemnt is way less than the expectation level of the people. People wants to become rich overnight.

Let me give you some example. AL made some commitment to the people in the election and people voted them to power with an expectation that they will deliver. Some of the commitment under time bound as follows.

1) 100% literacy rate by 2014.
2) 20,000 MW additional electricity by 2014.
3) Metro rail by 2014.
4) Comlete reduction of traffic jam by 2014 with Expressways running all over Dhaka.
5) Padma bridge
6) Deep Sea Port.
7) New Airport.
8) Reduction of inflation and bring that down to 1996 level which is 2%.
7) Whole country will be connected with fibre obtics high speed internet.

These are just few I mentioned. Now after completing 1/2 of its terms most of its dream project still in the drawing board. If people gets frustated, yu cant blame them.
 
iajdani, you cleverly side stepped my question. Your answer does not relate in any way to the question I raised.
 
iajdani, you cleverly side stepped my question. Your answer does not relate in any way to the question I raised.

No I did not. Like many others, I voted for AL in the last election to see some change. But Hasina disappointed me. I still beleive AL is a wonderfull party minus Hasina. Hasina is mentally sick and does not have the magnanomity of becoming a leader of her statute.

To answer you question directly, AL ruled the country, the least amount time among all major political parties. So credit should goe to everybody including AL. The best government ever formed was the government under President Ziaur Rahman. He employed the best brains, even brought back good expatriates to run the country. Nobody knew any of his relatives in his lifetime as he never let them come close to power house.
 
Me think We dont have to expalin to Bangladeshis for how rich or poor we are... our capabilities/ambitions/what we haveachieved .. You seee guys its their `feel-good` moment..I wud hate to take it away from them :disagree:... read -> :-)tongue:)
We shud look towards the sky to compare ourselves.. not into the welll :)
what say guys???
 
Good News....So we can expect the illegal Bangladeshi's in India to go back to Bangladesh...and Bangladeshi's wipping windshields at cross roads in Milan and other European cities to call themselves as Bangladeshis , instead of Indians ?
Well I for one dont have any problem letting illegal/legal bangladeshis coming into india to WORK...
We Indians have been everywhere on teh face of earth to work etc,.. Legally and Illegally.. (being from punjab I know best ;)
its time to reciprocate .
Just my opinion... cud be wrong..
 
Well I for one dont have any problem letting illegal/legal bangladeshis coming into india to WORK...
We Indians have been everywhere on teh face of earth to work etc,.. Legally and Illegally.. (being from punjab I know best ;)
its time to reciprocate .
Just my opinion... cud be wrong..
But did U find any Indian calling himself from anyother country when asked about his nationality? Many Indians are working in Doner Kebab shops here, but they call themselves Indians.
But..lets kep the discussions to BD...the the reduction of poverty in BD . This will reduce the load on India. Good News for us all.
 
Well mate.. NOBODY likes calling themselves any different to what they are..
May be they are afraid of some kind of backlash from the goras etc if they tell they are from bangladesh / pakistan... I dont know ... but I know where Ur coming from... I came across a few ppl from mostly Islamic countries (no offence to Dear Muslims) calling themselves from more `developed` country.. as if they lacked confidence and wanted to compensate it with calling them from more `advanced` countries...
I know an interesting incident..
This guy Gurdeep Singh frm Malerkotla(Indian Punjab) came to live with a friends of mine.. there was somthing peculiar abt him.. never went to gurudwara/Mandir with them etc... etc.. never heard him saying waheguru/ram etc.. from his mouth . never bowing his head in from of the Holy pictures in their house .. etc.. In a few months turned out he was an Indian Muslim brother from that belt of punjab (Many Muslim brothres live there).. But we failed to understand why did he gave us his wrong name etc.. still think abt him... A gem of a guy , absolutely Genuine .. I still cant comprehend why wud he call himself a singh or kumar when he was a khan.. we accepted the way he was anyway as long as he was a good hearted guy , wud have even if he said he wa a muslim . I fail to understand... bless him whereever he is.
 
Is it because those poor coming to India illegally? Just asking..
 
That's your National Poverty line. Not same as below $1.25.

I always see bhartis like you remain always in denial mode despite being rebutted on the same topics couple of days earlier where I have said clearly it is because Bangladesh government provide subsidy to all level of people be they rich or poor and that is why it raises the purchasing power of the all level of people. Suppose couple of days earlier I have read that in the international market Bangladesh buy rice @38 taka per kg but sell it in the local market @28 taka per kg. That is why in 2005 despite 49% people were below 1.25 dollar earning due to government subsidy the real number was 40% and now it has reduced to 31.5%. Bangladesh government provide around 6 billion usd subsidy on food and fuel alone.

N please do not post the data that you are keep on posting as that has been the data of 2007 as it is indicated in the report which infact is the data just forwarded from 2005.

N about the reduction of poverty to 31% it is not only posted by Bangladeshi News paper but also by many international news paper even from China.

For your info:

Bangladesh's poverty rate declines sharply: UNDP|chinadaily.com.cn

DHAKA, November 3 (Xinhua) -- Bangladesh poverty rate declined to 31 percent last year while the previous year's figure is 49 percent, a United Nation report released on Thursday said.

The Human Development Report 2011, released by the United Nations Development Program (UNDP), said there are some growth centers in Bangladesh where the poverty rate came down sharply, but there are also some areas where poverty is still rampant.


This is from BSS... one of the most reliable news source. It provides more details:

http://www.bssnews.net/newsDetails.php?cat=0&id=210031$date=2011-11-03&dateCurrent=2011-11-04

The annual report of the United Nations Development Programme (UNDP) showed that poverty in Bangladesh declined sharply to 31 percent in the past one year from 49 percent a year ago.

"Bangladesh's progress in many areas is very strong," UNDP country director Stefan Priesner said at the launching of the report in the city.


Apart from that many other news paper also published about it.

Bangladesh's poverty rate declines sharply: UNDP - Latest Headlines - Investors.com

Bangladesh poverty lowers, score rises, ranking down - Political News « ArcaMax Publishing

Bangladesh ranks 146th in UN HDI report

Bangladesh poverty lowers, score rises, ranking down - Political News « ArcaMax Publishing

I am still trying to gather more info but what is certain here is that all the info is not in the report posted online but in the local UNDP offices. That is quite certain from the following report:

Tehelka - India's Independent Weekly News Magazine

Ramesh also said “Sri Lanka ranks higher than India in terms of human development but is a disaster when it comes to economic growth”. On Bangladesh, “Its indicators are better than West Bengal, Uttar Pradesh and Bihar” and he expressed shock while detailing that its indicators were better than Andhra Pradesh and Karnataka.

In the report no where I have found it has break down to different Indian states unless this data is available only in the local UNDP offices otherwise Ramesh would not be able to make these comments.

Though the result that Ramesh describes here is not surprising that Bangladesh is doing better then WB, Bihar, Uttar Pradesh, Andhra Pradesh, arnakata and all other east indian states in HDI as it is quite quite certain due to the fact that East Indian states are relative underdeveloped, poor and backward then the West Indian states.


In this regard this will be wise for Bangladesh if comparison to India come it should focus on west india which are relatively developed and should learn from it. Though India is ahead of Bangladesh slightly for now, Can any one tell me how much Bangladesh can expect rise in HDI in the next year after upgrading the base year to 2005 as it is expected it will give a substantial boost to the Bangladesh's GDP?
 
It will be better if anyone can provide the details what is the present percentage of people poverty line in India as present figures are showing it is from 32% to as high as 77% and most of the Indians are in denial mode of this data ... I am asking for it for some time but no response.
 
Good News....So we can expect the illegal Bangladeshi's in India to go back to Bangladesh...and Bangladeshi's wipping windshields at cross roads in Milan and other European cities to call themselves as Bangladeshis , instead of Indians ?

Please provide government stat and figure on illegal Bangladeshi not quote by some radical hindu politicians or just keep your mouth shut and keep your rant with you.
 
It will be better if anyone can provide the details what is the present percentage of people poverty line in India as present figures are showing it is from 32% to as high as 77% and most of the Indians are in denial mode of this data ... I am asking for it for some time but no response.

It is you who is in denial mode . Look above Roy has busted the myth you are trying to propagate.
 
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