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200 Billion Black Money of Pakistanis in Swiss Banks

well its simple CHINA,INDIA & UK corruption is a small percentage of the total in paksitan MR.10% has become mr.100% along with his allies and all! so india might have more money in the swiss account but then again it is a bigger country and in percentage terms its small!

lets not shove it on zardari we have made this a habit .. or i shall say we all are his allies , no one pays any tax on income ... shopkeepers , small - medium sized business , agriculturist
 
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We have done the necessary....... have you?:police:



India will get access to Swiss Bank - IBNLive.com -

The beneficiaries from the new amendments include India, Germany, Canada, Japan, the Netherlands, Greece, Turkey, Uruguay, Kazakhstan, and Poland.


Read more at: Access to information on Swiss accounts made easier

GENEVA: The Swiss parliament on Friday gave approval to amendments to tax treaties with countries, including India, that makes it easier for them to access information about the illegal funds held by their nationals in Swiss private banks.


New Swiss law makes bank account info easier to get - Times Of India
 
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True, I want Indians and Pakistanis hackers to hack Swiss Banks like UBS, to get people info.
 
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Is there any international law to Sue Swissbanks for criminal activities of allowing black money for depositing ?

Well if it was to be in a Muslim country then all hell would had been lose a long time ago. You have BCCI as an example (just to mention one).

US puts pressure on other governments (specially the Muslim governments) to report suspicious transfers and cash flows but does US apply same sort of pressure on Switzerland to combat international "money laundering" and "terrorists fundings"? Who knows maybe some "terrorist" who is against US may also have a Swiss accounts for fundings!
 
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lets not shove it on zardari we have made this a habit .. or i shall say we all are his allies , no one pays any tax on income ... shopkeepers , small - medium sized business , agriculturist

When they know that since decades the thieves are entrusted with guarding the national reserves, why should they pay tax?

They see no sense in paying taxes as the tax will not be used for public welfare.
 
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Army Generals, Politicians, Bureaucrats all involved in money laundry, thieves, criminals of Pakistan.

They will rot in hell!
 
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The most important..how to get to this money back? Pakistan use of forex reserves as a currency basket promotes money laundering ..Pakistan should find a different commodity basket..something of its own home growth commodity..to print its currency..remember ..no nation achieves true freedom until it attains freedom to establish its own capital..!
 
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The most important..how to get to this money back? Pakistan use of forex reserves as a currency basket promotes money laundering ..Pakistan should find a different commodity basket..something of its own home growth commodity..to print its currency..remember ..no nation achieves true freedom until it attains freedom to establish its own capital..!
What goes out never comes back ..... what goes up must come down ...but this against natural process ... a man made process...
 
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$200b stashed in Swiss banks ‘off limits to Pakistan’ will remain secret

ISLAMABAD: It seems the secret of the $200 billion stashed in Switzerland by Pakistanis will remain a secret, as tax authorities on Tuesday said that the revised treaty on the Avoidance of Double Taxation did not cover past transactions.

“The scope of the revised treaty is limited to the transactions that would be carried out from January 2018,” said Dr Mohammad Iqbal, Member Inland Revenue Policy of the Federal Board of Revenue.

He was apprising the Senate Standing Committee on Finance about the status of retrieving money that Pakistanis have stashed in Switzerland.




“The exchange of information would begin from January, but strictly speaking the information can be sought on [the] request only about the prospective transactions,” said Iqbal.

“Retrieving money of Pakistani nationals deposited in Swiss banks does not fall in the domain of the FBR nor is mandated by any agreement made for the avoidance of double taxation,” according to the FBR.

However, he said that the steps were taken to seek information for the purpose of taxation.

Hearing of Ishaq Dar’s references case adjourned till January 18

Iqbal said that the exchange of information article was renegotiated and updated with Switzerland on the basis of the latest Organisation for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD) model, which extends its scope beyond the information available with the tax administration in normal course of business.

“In 2014, the then finance minister Ishaq Dar had informed parliament in writing that Pakistanis had stashed about $200 billion in Swiss banks and the government would retrieve the money by revising the avoidance of double taxation treaty,” said Senator Saleem Mandviwalla, the chairman of the standing committee.

“But after that statement we never heard about the $200 billion,” he added.

Iqbal said that the revised Avoidance of Double Taxation treaty did contain the Article on Exchange of Information on the request for tax purposes.

Dar’s name on ECL is under legal review, says Interior Minister

He said under the revised treaty, which the Swiss parliament has yet to ratify, only specific information could be obtained for tax purposes.

The FBR official clarified that the bilateral treaty did not cover automatic exchange of information.

The FBR’s statements in the meeting suggested that the country would never be able to retrieve $200 billion and that Ishaq Dar had played to the gallery.

ANP’s Senator Ilyas Bilour said that former finance minister had breached the privilege of parliament by providing incorrect information about the $200 billion issue.

He said that Dar should not have given the irresponsible statement at that time.

But Minister of State for Finance Rana Muhammad Afzal said that Dar’s statement was based on the statements given by the Swiss financial sector authorities.

He said $200 billion was not an authentic figure and was not received from Switzerland through any official channel.

The standing committee also quizzed the FBR over back-paddling on the initial revised draft of the bilateral treaty after initialling it, which wasted two precious years.

In August 2014, Pakistan initialled the revised treaty with Switzerland, which would have allowed it to get information in early 2015. Surprisingly, in Sep 2014, the federal government decided to renegotiate the treaty despite initialling the agreement.

In May 2017, the federal cabinet finally ratified the revised bilateral treaty but it did not cover old transactions.

Iqbal defended the decision. He said that the negotiating team had given some favours to Switzerland which, according to him, was not in the national interest.

He said that the team had agreed to halve the dividend income tax rate to 5% for Swiss companies.

Interestingly, Pakistan has signed 5% dividend rate with over a dozen countries. It signed 5% dividend rate with Spain and Czech Republic in 2016 – after the government frustrated the Swiss Treaty on the same ground in 2014.

Iqbal levelled another allegation. He said that the team had agreed to give the Most Favoured Nation status to Switzerland, which would have allowed it to claim benefits that Pakistan in subsequent years grant to other countries.

People, who were involved in those negotiations in 2014, said the team agreed to give the MFN status in return for winning concessions on royalty, interest and shipping.
 
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Layering’ is a key stage in money laundering and involves moving illicit funds around the financial system through a complex series of deals to complicate the paper trail.
 
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$200 bn in Swiss banks: Bad maths or a case of hopes built on fake news

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ISLAMABAD: The PTI government’s entire mathematics about funding being arranged to get the country out of the present economic quagmire, does not count on retrieving Pakistanis’ $200 billion stashed in Swiss banks, checking annual illegal shifting of $10 billion out of Pakistan and curbing Rs12 billion daily corruption.

Finance Minister Asad Umar and other government leaders are now banking on Saudi and Chinese financial assistance, and the IMF programme to meet the financial challenges confronting the country. However, in the government’s financial planning, there is no mention of any amount that could either add to Pakistan’s foreign exchange reserves or the public kitty from the return or saving of plundered and laundered billions of dollars repeatedly quoted by the PTI in the past.

In the case of PTI’s commitment to retrieve Pakistanis' $200 billion stashed in Swiss banks within no time after coming into power, different government personalities including Asad Umar and PM’s Adviser on Accountability Barrister Shahzad Akbar have already said that not only the $200 billion figure is exaggerated but there is no clue about the exact amount of the Pakistani money deposited in the Swiss banks.

There is also no mention of how Pakistan could benefit in real terms by checking the much quoted PTI’s figure of $10 billion which is annually sent out of Pakistan through money laundering.

Imran Khan even after winning the July 25 general elections had stated in a press conference that $10 billion were annually being whisked away from Pakistan through money laundering. He said, “This is your money. This is Pakistan’s money. We have to bring it back. You will be (on) my team in this battle.”

However, now in the government’s economic planning to resolve the balance of payment issue, the savings of billions of dollars by checking annual money laundering of $10 billion is neither reflected nor mentioned.

In the recent past and before coming into power, Imran Khan had said that the daily corruption count in Pakistan is around Rs12 billion and it is done in the name of new development projects and receiving kickbacks/commission on them. Minister of State for Communication Murad Saeed, however, recently while stating that Pakistan loses $10 billion annually to money laundering, quoted the figure of Rs2 billion as daily corruption in the country. Murad had quoted these figures while referring to unnamed “authentic” reports.

After his return from China, Finance Minister Asad Umar announced that Pakistan's "balance of payments crisis is over" and assured that China is committed to providing short-term relief to Pakistan as well — the modalities of which, he said, would be discussed in a new round of discussions in Beijing on Friday.

"The long-term solution to the balance of payments crisis is to increase our exports, and to do that we should have enough income so that we do not need to borrow," Umar, who was a part of the Prime Minister Imran Khan-led delegation that visited China recently, said.

Federal government’s Spokesman on Economic Affairs Dr Farrukh Saleem when contacted told The News that economic policies are not devised on the basis of expected recoveries from the anti-corruption drives. “You cannot mix two things; anti-corruption and economic policy,” Dr Farrukh said.

He said that anti-corruption institutions are doing their job like never before. Dr Farrukh said that the FIA was working for the last 44 years but it never remained active against money laundering and bank frauds. “Now we are witnessing FIA being active against all such fraudulent activities but recovery of looted money will take time,” Dr Farrukh said and wondered, “How can economic policy be devised on the basis of some expected recoveries from an anti-corruption drive”?

He said that figures of money stashed abroad are based on rough calculations and are not exact. He said that stopping daily corruption and corrupt practices need a complete overhauling of the system, which will take time. Farrukh explained that he hasn’t noticed any genuine effort or even a sincere will of the governments during the last 10 years to curb corruption and corrupt practices.

Farrukh was also asked that bringing back the money from foreign banks and stopping daily corruption from the system may take time but money laundering channels could be closed more swiftly as $10 billion per annum means almost one billion dollars a month and the PTI government could have easily saved some $3 billion during its first three months in power. To this question, Dr Farrukh replied that there is an economic term called ‘state capture’ according to which the corrupt people get their men appointed in key institutions to continue with their corrupt practices even when they are not in power.

He said that in this case some men might have been appointed in the State Bank of Pakistan (SBP) to continue with the money laundering. He lamented that there have been no convictions in cases of money laundering in Pakistan. “I have heard of only one money laundering case investigated by the FIA in recent years,” Dr Farrukh said adding that it will take time to enhance capacity building of officers working with anti-graft institutions to enable them to stop practices like money laundering.

It is, however, interesting to note that the figure of 10 billion dollar money laundering per year as presented by the PTI leadership and also mentioned by Dr Farrukh Saleem in his report is also doubtful. The PTI has been quoting this figure of $10 billion while referring to some US State Department report but according to an investigation done by Geo News’ staffer Saqib Tanveer, the said report never quoted any such figure or any estimates regarding Pakistan.
 
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Lo jo. Another dumbfounded thread for the masses to waste their brain over. Oh bhai whether it’s 200 billion or 2000 billion, its neVER! Coming back.
Secondly politicians make up only a small percentage of this looted money. It’s includes mainly bureaucrats, generals and their frontmen aka extra rich businessmen who recently acquired money in large chunks. But no one knows where it came from.
 
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