so according to you,americans have won back in 2001? there is a fact in this story.not all talibans flee inside pakistan in 2001 and according to your claim,if taliban really lives in pakistan than why are you losing afghan war? why donald trump wanted to pull out all american military personnel? i don't want to talk about soviet union.it is long gone.even in 2001, you have failed to divert attacks on american army.your logic of all talibans inside pakistan is not a real scenerio.americans are the one who hosted taliban in washington during soviet era.we did your dirty work against soviets.than you wanted to take care it by yourself but you are badly failed.actually pakistani local tribes in waziristan shares resemblance with afghan taliban so according to your claim,even those pakistani citizens are taliban.it's like face saving.pakistan have told you several times to accept defeat in afghanistan.you are accepting it slowly.recent discussions of taliban with american delegation is a sign of weakness from the americans and not from the talibans.as i have said earlier,you can bomb them,fire missiles but they hit you again.even in 2001,american invaded afghanistan using air force first than military involvement and even in 2009, you weren't in a situation to announce success of this operation.there were some places in 2001 which were under taliban control.now they have 40% afghanistan.from 2001 to till date,several thousand american military personnel died.this shows that your army is fed up and want to exit peacefully without any insult.you have failed miserably.
First of all stop assuming because I bring logic to a conversation I am automatically a US military supporter. I am Iranian you moron.
2nd I know you didn’t bother to learn the English language, but I said Pakistan harbored top al queda and Taliban leaders which is true unless you live on a different planet (which most Pakistan users on here do). With the US steamrolling Taliban in 2001 bin laden and large amounts of Taliban and al queda leadership fled through torra borra mountains into Pakistan.
I mean later Bin laden himself was killed while living next to a major Pakistan military school. And yes Pakistan warlords are terrorists and terrorist sympathizers. Northern Pakistan at one point was Taliban 2.0 and even Pakistan military bases were under constant Insurgent attacks.
After the “surge” was over in iraq and Afghanistan, the US and NATO withdrew most of their troops and relied on the afghan army to keep control of their country.
Trust me no one (not Iran nor Pakistan) wants that dump known as Afghanistan whose main export is opium and drugs. US was going to leave Afghanistan eventually, just like it left Libya.
But let’s not kid ourselves, if US wanted to they could deploy 150,000 troops and move province by province and eliminate Taliban. Just look what Iraq did to ISIS when ISIS had control of nearly half of Iraq. ISIS had way more skilled fighters than a bunch of overweight Pashtuns with ak 47s.
The issue with Afghanistan is, no one wants it and no wants to put troops to fight in a country that holds very little strategic gains for the US (other than encircling iran with military bases).
So while it’s important to point out US defeats in the region (Iraq, Yemen, Syria). I don’t consider Afghanistan a total defeat for the US since they accomplished the bulk of their objectives. US was never going to permantely occupy Afghanistan, it simply is not an important country. If the Afghan army cannot hold its ground after 18 years, then that’s not the US job to be the Afghan army.
