Jason bourne
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20+ soldiers..... RIP.
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Can we all agree that our security forces's training is not what it should be? After all, how many of these attacks have to happen before we can say that we need some serious help -- Always we hear the line from senior officers that it is not that they do not value the lives of their men but that they do things as cheaply as possible - friends, is this not the same as devaluing the lives of brave men and women who choose to serve their nation and state?
Better pay may attract better recruits, but these recruits are not born, they are made by their training and their devotion to duty expressed in the value they place in the lives of their compatriots.
are you out of your mind ???
leave them alone so they blow up all other Pakistanis ????
what about the lives of the people of Pakistan ????
and do you still believe that the tribals will have love story with afghanistan and the drones ???? look at who is suffering, what is their demand and want (as it all lies in PAKISTAN)
let me give you an example : "u got trash in your home, you are a responsible person in your home, now u will have to take an action to throw it out in order to get rid of that smell and prevent others from getting sick in your house, u are not supposed to give up and start puffing an air freshener around your whole house to get rid of it because it will still stink, no matter how many cans of air freshener you buy and use up, and if its a huge mess you wont be able to clear it all up in one day it will take time, you may get scratches or wounds too but at the end of the job you will be happy and satisfied, and at the same time hope to clear things up before they get out of hand"
there is dirt and ***** every where its our job to clean it up as its our home you cant dump you own home claiming its ******, instead you get rid of the ***** present in it and live it up again
now the process here is that they are still clearing it up,
so best of luck to PA
Thats hardly any comparison.
Siachen is being taken over by a foreign army hence PA fighting.
The 'people' of tribal areas fighting against PA and thats why leave it to the people living there....specially due to the type of people and land....
No development work can be done there,and the area has nothing to offer...
Thats why my opinion that is it worth it? Losing so many soldiers and spending so much defence budget on people who themselves want to live a backward unruly life.
Here we see FWO being attacked for the 'crime' of building a road.
And this isnt an isolated insident.
Proves the point that the tribals dont want to change and dont want development...
You can get shot in the head there by 'staring' at a tribal woman or other trivial things and the people and area been the same since the pterodactile used to fly...
Hence my opinion.
aur maro in haramio forces ko
tumhari zubaan mubarak ho aisa hi hona chahiyai
aur maro in haramio forces ko
tumhari zubaan mubarak ho aisa hi hona chahiyai
read my response to Dilinger, even british couldn't get these tribals on board, and signed the agreement with them, this has been the case for decades. these are two different things, stoping the development work and getting out from an area. If we get down from that region it will give chance to Taliban to regroup and make it there stronghold
So according to you this is endemic to their (tribal) culture or ethos itself? The tribal regions seem to be more dead set for the establishment of theocratic rule. What would you attribute this sort of ant-state mentality to?
What good is the army if it cant even control it's own territory. Pull out and do what? You keep pulling out and the hostile territory keeps increasing. The only solution pak now has is to take on the terrorists head on wipe them off like sri lanka did. Stop using terrorists for having strategic depth as it only comes back to haunt you. "Good" taliban, "bad" taliban, LeT, "non-state actors" etc all will at one point will bite the hand which fed them. The sooner pak realises this, the better it would be for the region.
They are cannon fodder. Pakistan used them in the name of religion against india (1948 war of kashmir) and against russia and america in afghanistan...praise them, respect them , dont mess with them and they would die for you.. Pakistan army under musharraf got carried away, PA threatened them and ordered them to hand over their arab guests with whom they had intermarried. For american dollors pakistan army mishandled them...
So this is viewed as a vendetta by the tribes against the PA, at least as long as the current policies are followed? But do these tribes harbor taliban members and al qaeda members, if they do then the PA will have to take steps to ensure that the tribes desist from doing that, no?
@Hyperion @Abu Zolfiqar :
Dudes why don't you guys give your opinion on Luffy & Safriz's assertions ?
One appears to think theres some kind of an intrinsic structural problem with the Tribal Society whereas the other thinks that the Tribals are little more than canon fodder for the rest of us ?
Naturally I disagree on both counts but your opinion, as Tribals, carry a lot more weight than mine ever could; so please comment !