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1965 Biggest Tank Battle since WW II - Pakistani Victory : The Australian

Tommorow is 6th September... lets see india celebrate tht war... :D

That is a confirmation of the denial pakistanis live in. The whole world may say that pakistan lost the 1965 war, but we say we won it and we celebrate it, so it must be true.
 
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That is a confirmation of the denial pakistanis live in. The whole world may say that pakistan lost the 1965 war, but we say we won it and we celebrate it, so it must be true.

Lol... whole "world" congrats Pak tht day... foriegn dignitaries used to watch the parade ... yet india won the war when gen niranjan prasad ran on foot while his mahindra jeep stands outside 18th Baluch regiment... IAF suffered a crushin embarassment n so on... yet i guess india won... :D
 
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Lol... whole "world" congrats Pak tht day... foriegn dignitaries used to watch the parade ... yet india won the war when gen niranjan prasad ran on foot while his mahindra jeep stands outside 18th Baluch regiment... IAF suffered a crushin embarassment n so on... yet i guess india won... :D

All the neutral analysts must be lying then. Pakistan achieved all its objectives of the 1965 war. They have Kashmir in their fold. Thats why Indians require visa to visit Kashmir.
 
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Lol... whole "world" congrats Pak tht day... foriegn dignitaries used to watch the parade ... yet india won the war when gen niranjan prasad ran on foot while his mahindra jeep stands outside 18th Baluch regiment... IAF suffered a crushin embarassment n so on... yet i guess india won... :D
There ^^^

The proof that Pakistan won the War! :D

On the contrary it shows how Indian officers directed the battle right from the line instead of from cushy HQs
 
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1. It was an anti-climax and a disappointment for both the troops and the people that a cease-fire was called on 23 Sep. Indians were psychologically down and morally defeated. Suddenly they realized they should brace for another Battle of Panipath. Ammo, replenishment and stores were flowing in from Iran and Turkey. In the East Indonesia was impatient to join in the fight. Lashkars from FATA and Afghanistan were flooding in. Pakistan was pressurized to accept the cease-fire was by the American lobby and the arm peddlers who did not fancy disintegration / disappearance of India. They could then sell no arms to either.

2. Yes, Pak High Command did make serious mistakes.

a. Calling back the Gibraltar Mujahids was unnecessary and unproductive. In fact they should have been strengthened.

b. Changing the GOC in the middle of a campaign was most unprofessional. The advance lost a vital day and the effort got totally wasted. No effort was made to make up for the loss of momentum. Under Yahya no further effort was made to progress from where Akhtar Malik left.

c. 1 Armored Div should have known it was possible to break the canal banks to flood their axis of advance.

3. But again these setbacks dwarf before the tremendous gains in the air, sea and land. Pakistan should have continued to push. All advances of IA were halted and pushed back.The last desperate Indian effort was to skirt around Sialkot city to its west. Gathering remnants of armor from Chowanda IA thrust between Sialkot cantt and R Chenab heading towards Rak Marakiwal. If successful, they would then head towards Sambrial and Daska.Wazirabad and the GT road would then be open to them. PA had suffered heavy casualty here. 7 Baloch was mauled. Capt Masroor and Capt GM Malik (top award winner at Sandhurst, and later Lieut Gen) were grievously wounded.

4.War-raised 22 Baloch, with some reservist officers, was sent to reinforce. 4 Baloch was with drawn from a defense deployment and launched into a counter attack with a regiment of TDU (old Sherman tanks and reservist officers and JCOs). A squadron of light Chafe tanks was also pressed in later. However, the commander artillery and CO 8 Med, Lieut Col Ata, had organized a fantastic artillery support. 4 Baloch, under Lieut Col Rahim Khan (later Maj Gen and last escapee from Dhaka, 1971) launched a dusk attack on Phlora Wadda and Phlora Nikkaon 20 Sep. IA 4 Madras was beaten back from the positions they had taken on the katccha track leading to Puran Bhagat Ka Khu and Sialkot Cantt. 4 Baloch had committed only two coys in the attack. The entire Bn was to be launched on the other IA positions till they were driven back across the border.There was a Jat Bn (was it 7 Jat), a Gurkha Bn and a Kumaon Bn deployed and dislodged.

5. That might have been the last attack by PA because reports of cease-fire was coming in. However, Pakistanis in the East as well as in the West were in great josh / spirit. They could have fought on till a conclusive destruction of the state of India.
 
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So? He did not drink. So Pakistan won the war? :hitwall:
LOL... He wanted a peg at Gymkhana club... and had to go jogging back where he came from... :lol:

I really really hope you give it a try again - just like you did before.
1. It was an anti-climax and a disappointment for both the troops and the people that a cease-fire was called on 23 Sep. Indians were psychologically down and morally defeated. Suddenly they realized they should brace for another Battle of Panipath. Ammo, replenishment and stores were flowing in from Iran and Turkey. In the East Indonesia was impatient to join in the fight. Lashkars from FATA and Afghanistan were flooding in. Pakistan was pressurized to accept the cease-fire was by the American lobby and the arm peddlers who did not fancy disintegration / disappearance of India. They could then sell no arms to either.

2. Yes, Pak High Command did make serious mistakes.

a. Calling back the Gibraltar Mujahids was unnecessary and unproductive. In fact they should have been strengthened.

b. Changing the GOC in the middle of a campaign was most unprofessional. The advance lost a vital day and the effort got totally wasted. No effort was made to make up for the loss of momentum. Under Yahya no further effort was made to progress from where Akhtar Malik left.

c. 1 Armored Div should have known it was possible to break the canal banks to flood their axis of advance.

3. But again these setbacks dwarf before the tremendous gains in the air, sea and land. Pakistan should have continued to push. All advances of IA were halted and pushed back.The last desperate Indian effort was to skirt around Sialkot city to its west. Gathering remnants of armor from Chowanda IA thrust between Sialkot cantt and R Chenab heading towards Rak Marakiwal. If successful, they would then head towards Sambrial and Daska.Wazirabad and the GT road would then be open to them. PA had suffered heavy casualty here. 7 Baloch was mauled. Capt Masroor and Capt GM Malik (top award winner at Sandhurst, and later Lieut Gen) were grievously wounded.

4.War-raised 22 Baloch, with some reservist officers, was sent to reinforce. 4 Baloch was with drawn from a defense deployment and launched into a counter attack with a regiment of TDU (old Sherman tanks and reservist officers and JCOs). A squadron of light Chafe tanks was also pressed in later. However, the commander artillery and CO 8 Med, Lieut Col Ata, had organized a fantastic artillery support. 4 Baloch, under Lieut Col Rahim Khan (later Maj Gen and last escapee from Dhaka, 1971) launched a dusk attack on Phlora Wadda and Phlora Nikkaon 20 Sep. IA 4 Madras was beaten back from the positions they had taken on the katccha track leading to Puran Bhagat Ka Khu and Sialkot Cantt. 4 Baloch had committed only two coys in the attack. The entire Bn was to be launched on the other IA positions till they were driven back across the border.There was a Jat Bn (was it 7 Jat), a Gurkha Bn and a Kumaon Bn deployed and dislodged.

5. That might have been the last attack by PA because reports of cease-fire was coming in. However, Pakistanis in the East as well as in the West were in great josh / spirit. They could have fought on till a conclusive destruction of the state of India.
 
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Cool story bro. The place from where you quoted is also my favorite :D
1. It was an anti-climax and a disappointment for both the troops and the people that a cease-fire was called on 23 Sep. Indians were psychologically down and morally defeated. Suddenly they realized they should brace for another Battle of Panipath. Ammo, replenishment and stores were flowing in from Iran and Turkey. In the East Indonesia was impatient to join in the fight. Lashkars from FATA and Afghanistan were flooding in. Pakistan was pressurized to accept the cease-fire was by the American lobby and the arm peddlers who did not fancy disintegration / disappearance of India. They could then sell no arms to either.

2. Yes, Pak High Command did make serious mistakes.

a. Calling back the Gibraltar Mujahids was unnecessary and unproductive. In fact they should have been strengthened.

b. Changing the GOC in the middle of a campaign was most unprofessional. The advance lost a vital day and the effort got totally wasted. No effort was made to make up for the loss of momentum. Under Yahya no further effort was made to progress from where Akhtar Malik left.

c. 1 Armored Div should have known it was possible to break the canal banks to flood their axis of advance.

3. But again these setbacks dwarf before the tremendous gains in the air, sea and land. Pakistan should have continued to push. All advances of IA were halted and pushed back.The last desperate Indian effort was to skirt around Sialkot city to its west. Gathering remnants of armor from Chowanda IA thrust between Sialkot cantt and R Chenab heading towards Rak Marakiwal. If successful, they would then head towards Sambrial and Daska.Wazirabad and the GT road would then be open to them. PA had suffered heavy casualty here. 7 Baloch was mauled. Capt Masroor and Capt GM Malik (top award winner at Sandhurst, and later Lieut Gen) were grievously wounded.

4.War-raised 22 Baloch, with some reservist officers, was sent to reinforce. 4 Baloch was with drawn from a defense deployment and launched into a counter attack with a regiment of TDU (old Sherman tanks and reservist officers and JCOs). A squadron of light Chafe tanks was also pressed in later. However, the commander artillery and CO 8 Med, Lieut Col Ata, had organized a fantastic artillery support. 4 Baloch, under Lieut Col Rahim Khan (later Maj Gen and last escapee from Dhaka, 1971) launched a dusk attack on Phlora Wadda and Phlora Nikkaon 20 Sep. IA 4 Madras was beaten back from the positions they had taken on the katccha track leading to Puran Bhagat Ka Khu and Sialkot Cantt. 4 Baloch had committed only two coys in the attack. The entire Bn was to be launched on the other IA positions till they were driven back across the border.There was a Jat Bn (was it 7 Jat), a Gurkha Bn and a Kumaon Bn deployed and dislodged.

5. That might have been the last attack by PA because reports of cease-fire was coming in. However, Pakistanis in the East as well as in the West were in great josh / spirit. They could have fought on till a conclusive destruction of the state of India.

Read Lost Victories by von Manstein, Guderian, Zhukov's memoirs. Sentimental ignoramuses are best for cheer leading. Not much else.
:lol: is tht why a generals runs back to save his arse cause he couldnt get a drink? :lol:
 
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Cool story bro. The place from where you quoted is also my favorite :D

Read Lost Victories by von Manstein, Guderian, Zhukov's memoirs. Sentimental ignoramuses are best for cheer leading. Not much else.


How indian won the war:

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Mods can i give youtube links for pakistan great victory over evil baniya hindu Indian in 1965 :)
 
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Lol... whole "world" congrats Pak tht day... foriegn dignitaries used to watch the parade ... yet india won the war when gen niranjan prasad ran on foot while his mahindra jeep stands outside 18th Baluch regiment... IAF suffered a crushin embarassment n so on... yet i guess india won... :D

Oh man why are you wasting your time? Just ignore that illiterate smelly hindu.I think too much cow urine has dulled his brain.:omghaha:
 
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How indian won the war:

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Good you have proved that after losing 3800 soldiers and 200 tanks, Pakistani army finally managed to capture the "coveted JEEP" which is a clear proof that Pakistan won the war since the objective of the 1965 war was to capture the indian Jeep. India lost since it could kill only 3800 soldiers and lost their prized Jeep.
 
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I refuse to come down to your level.
Oh man why are you wasting your time? Just ignore that illiterate smelly hindu.I think too much cow urine has dulled his brain.:omghaha:

According to Tashkent Decl. India returned 1840sqkm to Pakistan while Pakistan returned 540sqkm. Better luck next time.
1. Praagh, David. The greater game: India's race with destiny and China. McGill-Queen's Press – MQUP, 2003. ISBN 0-7735-2639-0.
2. Johnson, Robert. A region in turmoil: South Asian conflicts since 1947. Reaktion Books, 2005. ISBN 1-86189-257-8.

Note: These are not 'smelly Hindus'
@Aeronaut, @Jungibaaz - pls take a look. If possible please remove posts that are slanderous.
 
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How indian won the war:

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Just imagine a highly senior army officer of major general rank **** his pants in a battle field ,than imagine how demoralizing this would have been for soldiers.
Major general niranjan prasad "Param vir chakra" :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
 
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