16th December 1971: From East Pakistan to Bangladesh

[Al-zakir]

 

[Baby Leone]

record posts hav been deleted in this thread....it seems

 

[kalu_miah]

Here is an Indian blaming Bhutto for the 1971 civil war, Bhutto did make the final decisive move by giving a go-ahead for the Operation Searchlight, but the chess board was set long before to push him into a corner where he was forced to make an irrational blunder, in my opinion, or was it deliberate? (may be some member with more knowledge can elaborate):
Was Bhutto the Catylist for the Creation of Bangladesh ?

Indira Gandhi interview during 1971:
Rare Mrs Indira Gandhi Interview on Bangladesh Liberation War 1971 (Video) | Ekawaaz - One Voice - Many Issues : News Views and Reviews
Mrs Gandhi Interview on Problems with Pakistan - YouTube

 

[monitor]

Is it true that three of Yahiya's general were raw agent ? they intentionally hamper power transfer to Mujib . it was also Bhutto who too were RAW agent ???

 

[kalu_miah]

Is it true that three of Yahiya's general were raw agent ? they intentionally hamper power transfer to Mujib . it was also Bhutto who too were RAW agent ???

I think none of those people were involved with RAW. ISI and RAW were sworn enemy, it is just that ISI was pushed to a corner, made bad irrational moves out of desperation and then finally lost the game.

 

[Skies]

1971 related threads on PDF:

http://www.defence.pk/forums/bangladesh-defence/84875-december-16-1971-east-pakistan-bangladesh.html

http://www.defence.pk/forums/bangla...adesh-urges-pakistan-apology-1971-crimes.html

http://www.defence.pk/forums/milita...egations-massive-propoganda-sarmila-bose.html

http://www.defence.pk/forums/bangladesh-defence/41456-battles-1971-a.html

http://www.defence.pk/forums/curren...mran-demands-apology-pakistan-bangladesh.html

http://www.defence.pk/forums/military-history/26732-atrocities-1971-civil-war.html

http://www.defence.pk/forums/bangladesh-defence/52353-advantages-creation-bangladesh-pakistan.html

http://www.defence.pk/forums/military-history/20918-separation-east-pakistan-1971-a.html

http://www.defence.pk/forums/military-history/1870-creation-bangladesh.html

http://www.defence.pk/forums/bangladesh-defence/107635-myth-busting-bangladesh-war-1971-a.html

http://www.defence.pk/forums/bangladesh-defence/50079-truth-1971-war.html

http://www.defence.pk/forums/bangla...our-226-indians-role-1971-liberation-war.html

http://www.defence.pk/forums/bangla...-apology-over-armys-wrongdoings-1971-war.html

http://www.defence.pk/forums/bangla...nts-war-crimes-trials-indian-perspective.html

http://www.defence.pk/forums/bangla...k-evidence-pakistan-usa-war-crime-1971-a.html

http://www.defence.pk/forums/military-history/104532-bangladesh-war.html

http://www.defence.pk/forums/bangla...-search-fact-about-killing-pakistan-army.html

http://www.defence.pk/forums/strate...al-book-accuses-bengalis-1971-war-crimes.html

http://www.defence.pk/forums/strate...nt-view-war-crime-trial-s-not-right-time.html

http://www.defence.pk/forums/strate...onsible-1971-break-up-pakistan-musharraf.html

http://www.defence.pk/forums/milita...-responsible-1971-east-pak-fiasco-says-d.html

http://www.defence.pk/forums/bangla...971-war-hasina-expresses-gratitude-india.html

http://www.defence.pk/forums/curren...ng-taught-about-separation-east-pakistan.html

http://www.defence.pk/forums/bangla...-1971-war-pakistan-vs-india-untold-story.html

http://www.defence.pk/forums/bangladesh-defence/19050-book-review-india-doctrine-1947-2007-a.html

http://www.defence.pk/forums/bangla...ologise-bangladesh-atrocities-imran-khan.html

http://www.defence.pk/forums/milita...story-exposing-propanganda-telling-truth.html

http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-...-raw-involvement-east-pakistan-secession.html

http://www.defence.pk/forums/bangladesh-defence/110495-mujibs-confusion-bangladeshi-deaths.html

http://www.defence.pk/forums/bangla...desh-name-major-road-after-indira-gandhi.html

http://www.defence.pk/forums/bangla...ni-soldiers-during-operation-searchlight.html


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Adding three more pertinent threads in this sticky one. If you open new threads on 71 then please put those new links on 71 here to ease the 71-research and help the new comers. And make this sticky thread as the main 71-directory thread that would contain many links on 71.

http://www.defence.pk/forums/bangla...on-war-martyrs-would-exceed-30-lac-mamun.html

http://www.defence.pk/forums/bangla...bureau-ib-r-aw-east-pakistan-1963-1971-a.html

http://www.defence.pk/forums/bangladesh-defence/192268-1971-war-raw-success.html

 

[Musalman]

90,000 figure of POW includes Army, civil administration, their families (wife kids etc). A relative of mine 1 year at that time was POW from 1971 to 1974.

 

[LaBong]

90,000 figure of POW includes Army, civil administration, their families (wife kids etc). A relative of mine 1 year at that time was POW from 1971 to 1974.

Army 54,154
Navy 1,381
Air Force 833
Paramilitary including police 22,000
Civilian personnel 12,000
Total: 90,368

 

[bigbossman]

thanks..i found some good info here

 

[Md Akmal]

Is it true that three of Yahiya's general were raw agent ? they intentionally hamper power transfer to Mujib . it was also Bhutto who too were RAW agent ???

@I don't know wether his 3 generals were RAW's agents or not ? But there were circumstancial evidences that Yahya did not ordered for final surrender nor he signed any such document. The fact was he delegated the power to the Governor of the then East Pakistan. After the resignation of the Governor naturally it goes to General Niazi. General Niazi said he got the green signal from GHQ. He blamed Maj General Rao Farman Ali for early surrender. Infact Rao Farman Ali from the start of war was negociating with USA for surrender or cease fire. Niazi blamed Roa Farman Ali and questioned who gave him this power.

@ My personal opinion is that during the crisis in East Pakistan most of the Mahajir officers lost their confidence and came to the conclusion that "war with India is useless" so they were much more warried about their personal safety and early return to home. General Niazi was a true patriot but unfortunately he was not properly respected in Pakistan.

 

[eastwatch]

1) I don't know wether his 3 generals were RAW's agents or not ? But there were circumstancial evidences that Yahya did not ordered for final surrender nor he signed any such document. The fact was he delegated the power to the Governor of the then East Pakistan. After the resignation of the Governor naturally it goes to General Niazi. General Niazi said he got the green signal from GHQ. He blamed Maj General Rao Farman Ali for early surrender. Infact Rao Farman Ali from the start of war was negociating with USA for surrender or cease fire. Niazi blamed Roa Farman Ali and questioned who gave him this power.

2) My personal opinion is that during the crisis in East Pakistan most of the Mahajir officers lost their confidence and came to the conclusion that "war with India is useless" so they were much more warried about their personal safety and early return to home. General Niazi was a true patriot but unfortunately he was not properly respected in Pakistan.

It is intentional or not, but, you have sent wrong answers to the question 'Monitor' raised in his post. He was not asking about issue of surrender by PA at the end of war. He was asking about the beginning of war when in March 1971 Yahya/Bhutto stopped pursuing a dialogue with Sk. Mujib. Monitor asked if the war was influenced by 3 PA generals who were paid by RAW.

 

[Skies]

Mujib looks better than his daughter ..

Flickr: Doc Kazi's Photostream

Sheikh Mujib and Bhutto during the latter's visit to Dhaka in 1974. Food Minister Abdul Momen is in the center | Flickr - Photo Sharing!


and

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1208779

 

[genmirajborgza786]

an insight into the 1971 crisis

barrister Shahida jameel (grand daughter of late prime minister Hussein Shaheed Suhrawardi ) & air commodore fighter M.M Alam of 1965 fame

 

[SamranAli]

let the bygones be bygones and move on.

 

[Al-zakir]

^ Good discussion and I agree with Sir M. Alam that we(Bangladesh-Pakistan) should work together, at least in defense to counter enemy India.