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14 dead in shooting at San Bernardino, Calif., center for disabled; 3 suspects on loose

Really ? MQM has killed pretty much same numbers.Now on the topic in several years this is first mass shooting done by a Muslim. Few had resulted in more deaths but as attackers were not Muslims they are not called terrorists. I am pretty sure if white Supremists or a man who doesn't get attention from girls ends up killing 100 innocents in one attack it won't still be called terrorism. Western Hypocrisy at its best. Still what happened is bad and tragic although looks like it was Job issue.
Here u go molvi comes and like his old routine brings west , draculas , mqm , ifs & buts these and those .... bla , bla , bla & bla

Stop being an appologist for radical fundos .. Its a lost cause those who have paid the price do know this kind .. Its the mad ideology where lies the evil and if its not crushed with brute force than the world will continue witnessing such atrocities
 
As far as I remember, 150 plus were killed in Mumbai attacks. 143 being Hindu and 6 being Jew. Are you saying it's the other way around?
Mumbai city has 18% muslim population and close 40 muslims were also slaughtered during the attack apart from 15 different nationalities by Pakistan sponsored terrorist.
 
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Gotta share this one. :p
 
I wish religion was the part of their life. The real religion, not the ISIS's kinda religion. They preach to kill people and Islam preaches to spread love and peace. Killing one person is like killing the humanity. That is the real Islam.
i really admire your noble virtues lady but my point is if muslims are really against such people what have muslims done to control such people ?

its onli one part in condemming "terrorists who are bringing bad name to islam& muslims" but its totally diffrent when you start control them and stop them before or alert athurities about there "evil"designs....... think about it cause as you have US flags this question will be asked to every muslim in USA and specially pakistani diasporra and you know what im talking about have a nice day :coffee:
 
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California killing: Female assailant was from Pakistan, CAIR claims
REUTERS — UPDATED 30 MINUTES AGO

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Police officers conduct a manhunt after a mass shooting in San Bernardino, California. -Reuters
SAN BERNARDINO: The female assailant gunned down following the shooting rampage in a banquet at a social services centre for the disabled in San Bernardino, California, was of Pakistani origin, claimed Hussam Ayloush, executive director of the Los Angeles chapter of CAIR (Council of American Islamic Relations).

The couple were married for two years and have a six-month-old baby girl, claimed Ayloush.

On Wednesday morning, Syed Rizwan Farook, 28, and Tashfeen Malik, 27, dropped off their six-month-old baby with Farook's mother, saying they were going to a doctor's appointment.

Read: Suspects Syed Farook, Tashfeen Malik kill 14 in California shooting: authorities

By noon, according to police, the couple had donned assault clothing, armed themselves with rifles and stormed a holiday party attended by San Bernardino County employees, killing 14 people and wounding 17 others.



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Police officers conduct a manhunt after a mass shooting in San Bernardino, California. -Reuters


Before sunset, after a shootout with police, they were both dead, leaving a grieving community with few clues to puzzle out the motive for the carnage.

Syed Farook, born in the United States, worked as an environmental health specialist for San Bernardino County, inspecting restaurants for health violations, according to authorities and a website that tracks public employees.

As part of his job, he also inspected public pools at locations including apartment and senior housing complexes and country clubs. Records show him performing these duties as recently as July.

On Wednesday, he attended the annual holiday gathering for employees of his department, but then left, returning later with weaponry and Malik.

San Bernardino Police Chief Jarrod Burguan said that the shooting spree had clearly been planned in advance and that the suspects left several explosive devices, which appeared to be pipe bombs, at the scene of the massacre.



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A California Highway Patrol officer stands with his weapon as authorities pursued the suspects in a shooting that occurred at the Inland Regional Center. -AFP


SueAnn Chapman, a cashier and waitress at China Doll Fast Food, a restaurant that Syed Farook inspected earlier this year for his job with the county, said he didn't seem unusual when he turned up.

“He was real quiet,” Chapman said. “He checked the food and said he was here because somebody complained. He looked completely normal.” Burguan said he did not know whether Farook and Malik were wed, but officials with the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) who had been in touch with the family said they were husband and wife.

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In this image taken from video, armored vehicles surround an SUV following a shootout in San Bernardino. -AP

Burguan said that police investigating the shooting went to a house in Redlands on Wednesday afternoon, and saw the couple take off in a black SUV. Police pursued the car to San Bernardino, where the gun battle ensued that left Farook and Malik dead.

Farook's family was originally from South Asia, while Malik was believed to be from Pakistan and had lived in Saudi Arabia before coming to the United States, Ayloush said. Farook had an older brother, he added, who had served in the U.S. military.

Public records suggest possible turbulence in Farook's younger life.

In 2006, Rafia Farook, who records indicate is Farook's mother, filed in a Riverside court for divorce from her husband, also named Syed Farook.



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SWAT officers enter an area where suspects were believed to be after the shooting at the Inland Regional Center. -AFP


She enumerated multiple instances of domestic abuse in the legal filing, and said her husband “threatens to kill himself on a daily basis.” During one incident, she said in a court filing, her son came between them “to save me.”

California killing: Female assailant was from Pakistan, CAIR claims - Pakistan - DAWN.COM
 
Who made them radicalized ,for fighting western wars ?
Muslims & their countries ?
Or west it self ?

Great.. Keep blaming the west. The ideology stems not from the west. The west supported it when they wanted to use some countries and manpower against Communism. That's long gone. Wake up!!!
 
Here u go molvi comes and like his old routine brings west , draculas , mqm , ifs & buts these and those .... bla , bla , bla & bla

Stop being an appologist for radical fundos .. Its a lost cause those who have paid the price do know this kind .. Its the mad ideology where lies the evil and if its not crushed with brute force than the world will continue witnessing such atrocities
Really go ahead Good Luck with solving it with brutal force. You have no idea about the issue and How to resolve it so you take the easy way and call me terrorist apologist. Next time come up with something new.
 
Before condemning? Right after the names were declared, almost everyone started bashing Muslims for it. We do condemn it. Those radicalized minded have hurt Muslims and Islam the most. What you expect from Muslims? Who is the creator of it? Shouldn't we all stand against it? Why only Muslims? Ok if a single person is involved then it's fine? How many times white men have shoot people in theaters.

Sure they did.. Starting with this is not islam. Guess, what? Every religion is fallible and change starts with accepting that there is a problem.
Then you have the posters asking who started what? Yes.. Disabled children went and messed up already messed countries.
What do you mean by only muslims? Where are the de-radicalization programmes? Where is the un-ending oil money for preaching tolerance, liberal values and co-existence. For telling people that humans are the same?
 
i really admire your noble virtues lady but my point is if muslims are really against such people what have muslims done to control such people ?

its onli one part in condemming "terrorists who are bringing bad name to islam& muslims" but its totally diffrent when you start control them and stop them before or alert athurities about there "evil"designs....... think about it cause as you have US flags this question will be asked to every muslim in USA and specially pakistani diasporra and you know what im talking about have a nice day :coffee:

What you want us to do? We are suffering the most. First step is to stop arming or funding. And guess what? I'm not the one who's funding them. Are we too scared to tell USA and UK or (even if Saudi is also involved) to tell them stop it. Stop helping them to grow in large number. Why we are blamed for it? Aren't we citizens of USA and equal to everyone else. That's what the constitution says.
 
Really go ahead Good Luck with solving it with brutal force. You have no idea about the issue and How to resolve it so you take the easy way and call me terrorist apologist. Next time come up with something new.

Let me specific again brutal force shall be applied to remove this cancerous ideology from mankind.
 
Let me specific again brutal force shall be applied to remove this cancerous ideology from mankind.
I repeat " GOOD Luck with that "

i really admire your noble virtues lady but my point is if muslims are really against such people what have muslims done to control such people ?

its onli one part in condemming "terrorists who are bringing bad name to islam& muslims" but its totally diffrent when you start control them and stop them before or alert athurities about there "evil"designs....... think about it cause as you have US flags this question will be asked to every muslim in USA and specially pakistani diasporra and you know what im talking about have a nice day :coffee:
Sorry but many times people around them have no clue not a single one.
 
What you want us to do? We are suffering the most. First step is to stop arming or funding. And guess what? I'm not the one who's funding them. Are we too scared to tell USA and UK or (even if Saudi is also involved) to tell them stop it. Stop helping them to grow in large number. Why we are blamed for it? Aren't we citizens of USA and equal to everyone else. That's what the constitution says.

I told you. De-readicalization centers. Confront radicals online and in the community. Help in the integration of people with normal people. Keeping your head down and working always works.
Not more mosques while telling people that they interpreted it the wrong way. More religion will never work.

You earlier talked about people getting radicalized because western countries funded wars against them. Let me tell you something my people. Indians.. Treated like crap in Saudi and other places. Almost like slave and bonded labour.. They also actively funded radicalism in our country and helped Pakistan. Guess what?? They kept their head down and worked for their families back home. No-one went and bombed all of the middle-east.
 
I wish religion was the part of their life. The real religion, not the ISIS's kinda religion. They preach to kill people and Islam preaches to spread love and peace. Killing one person is like killing the humanity. That is the real Islam.

To the world...this dichotomy is confusing. Non Muslims don't to know whom to believe. We would like to believe you, but the terrorists are making it hard for us to believe you.
 
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