130+ AMERICAN MUSLIM IMAMS SIGN A STATEMENT ON UIGHURS

[VCheng]

Statement of American Muslim Imams, Scholars and Community Leaders On the Ongoing Oppression of Uighur Muslims

@AgNoStiC MuSliM Please check the violation of PDF rules by the doctored title of the thread.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

LOL! They are asking China to free Muslims and Muslims here are getting upset over Zionist intervention.

Meanwhile the Chinese and Israeli’s are probably swapping Muslim prisoner torture tips.

 

[VCheng]

LOL! They are asking China to free Muslims and Muslims here are getting upset over Zionist intervention.

Meanwhile the Chinese and Israeli’s are probably swapping Muslim prisoner torture tips.

Worry not, such selective outrage never amounts to much due to its hypocrisy.

If those worried about the Palestinians do not speak up for the Uighurs, then they are merely being selective in their outrage. If they chose to keep silent about the Uighurs, they should also keep silent about the Palestinians.

 

[Beast]

LOL! They are asking China to free Muslims and Muslims here are getting upset over Zionist intervention.

Meanwhile the Chinese and Israeli’s are probably swapping Muslim prisoner torture tips.

Paid and stage what do u expect?

China compare to US is far from it. American are expert in muslim detention camp. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guantanamo_Bay_detention_camp

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Paid and stage what do u expect?

China compare to US is far from it. American are expert in muslim detention camp. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guantanamo_Bay_detention_camp

The funny thing is most of those detained were captured by Pakistan or Afghani troops and handed over to us. So it’s hard for them to complain. They didn’t say “take these guys far away and just send them to Club Med”

 

[damm1t]

Omg, I can't believe in my eyes.

Everybody just got crazy when some Imams show solidarity with an oppressed Muslim nation.

- "Hey they didn't do it when it comes to x and y incidents, so they shouldn't do it now for z!" logic is completely pathetic.

If they didn't react well when it comes to "x and y" etc. its your government's fault that they didn't tell the "x" incident to the world quiet good. No offense.

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Salute the imams who signed this declaration and condemn the moderation who didn't like the original title for their selective "PDF rules". I wonder which rule is it?

Original title;

" Statement of American Muslim Imams, Scholars and Community Leaders On the Ongoing Oppression of Uighur Muslims "

 

[Numerous]

@OsmanAli98 @beijingwalker @Feng Leng @Indus Pakistan @Foxtrot Delta

What is the best way to fight this?

The American Muslim leadership has been effectively usurped by the US government.

Notice that most of the signatures from this list are Muslim brotherhood or MB-affiliated mosques, seminaries, and organizations.

It is facing constant barrage of anti-China propaganda.

Any Muslim, like us, who is pro-China is being harassed and declared as a puppet of China.

In your own view, what do you think is going on in east turkestan?

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

The funny thing is most of those detained were captured by Pakistan or Afghani troops and handed over to us. So it’s hard for them to complain. They didn’t say “take these guys far away and just send them to Club Med”

We condemn musharraf all the time for it.

Hence we kicked him from power via protests.

Everybody just got crazy when some Imams show solidarity with an oppressed Muslim nation.

Same Muslim Brotherhood Imam hypocrites who are the usual CIA puppets.

They scream for Palestine and Syria, but are silent about Kashmir, Somalia, Yemen, Afghanistan, Iraq, Burma.

We know them very well. This same brigade worked to tarnish Nouman Ali Khan, support gay rights activists in the Muslim community, and take over masajid in the US from non-MB.

Trump is jailing Latino children on the border in genuine concentration camps where they are raped, murdered, and separated from their parents but these Imams are silent.

Instead they are badmouthing China, and promoting US propaganda.

In your own view, what do you think is going on in east turkestan?

China is trying to control violence in Xinjiang using de-radicalization and promoting tradition Sufi Islam and Uyghur culture for members of those organizations who are proxies for foreign powers.

How many of these people fought in Syria for Isis? It should be worrying for us all.

CIA is trying to make this a second Chechnya. It is part of their Cold War against China, and we should be their willing pawns.

1 million inmates is a rubbished lie and so is the concentration camp claim.

You will all be eating your words when all these people are back out, Uyghurs become wealthy and affluent, and Chinese Xinjiang is a tourist hotspot for Muslims around the world.

 

[Numerous]

China is trying to control violence in Xinjiang using de-radicalization and promoting tradition Sufi Islam and Uyghur culture for members of those organizations who are proxies for foreign powers.

How many of these people fought in Syria for Isis? It should be worrying for us all.

CIA is trying to make this a second Chechnya. It is part of their Cold War against China, and we should be their willing pawns.

1 million inmates is a rubbished lie and so is the concentration camp claim.

You will all be eating your words when all these people are back out, Uyghurs become wealthy and affluent, and Chinese Xinjiang is a tourist hotspot for Muslims around the world.

This is awful justification for imprisoning Muslims.You should be ashamed of yourself. Yeh I'm sure the atheist communist chinese who hate religion will really know what traditional sufi Islam is. Yeh I'm also sure uighurs need to taught their own culture by some chinese dudes too. Do you really not see the absolute absurdity of what you're typing here?

How many of the 10 million or so uighurs fought for ISIS? Probably not many. How many western Muslims went to fight ISIS, probably a similar low percentage out of the muslim population, do you want the europeans and americans to shove 100,000s of Muslims into mass concentration camps because a few Muslims made bad decisions too? Will you support the Americans teaching you 'tradition sufi islam' after they imprison you?

I won't be eating my words. I don't mean this in a bad way but you have a proven record of showing sympathy for people who oppress Muslims due to your political leanings. It's far more likely, that once again, you're going to proven wrong and those of us who are supporting our oppressed uighur brothers will be on the side which is right.

I know a guy in real life who has some family members imprisoned by china. There are so many uighurs around the world who say the same thing. You probably will scream "cia agent" at them but it's pretty obvious who's telling the truth.

You're right that some of the people who signed this e.g. linda sarsour do really bad things but what you're doing is pretty bad aswell. I don't see people like you as much different than people who support ISIS. You have dangerous opinions which include providing support and sympathy for people who oppress Muslims and you even go out of your way to argue for them.

I've been quite harsh in this post but it's something that needs to be said to you.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Turkey can imprison 7,000 ‘Muslims’ for the coup attempt facing international condemnation, yet it is wrong for China to do the same?

US propaganda accuses Turkey of funding ISIS and murdering/imprisoning Kurds.

Stop having double standards. You see I can play with words also.

Throw in the words concentration camps, ethnic cleansing, communism, and you have all the sensationalist Cold War rhetoric you can dream of.

If Turkey has a right to defend its territorial sovereignty against non-state actors, then so does China. Both countries face the same enemy and the same tactics of misinformation and propaganda warfare.

It is in our interest to show a united front against the West.

I don't mean this in a bad way but you have a proven record of showing sympathy for people who oppress Muslims.

I will support the governments and territorial integrity of Turkey, China, Pakistan, KSA, Iran, and any others who are working to bring freedom and independence to the Muslim world to fight the onslaught of proxy, sectarian, civil wars ravaging the Muslim world.

We have to stem the tide of invasions and bloodshed currently enveloping Syria, Yemen, Libya, Palestine, Somalia, Kashmir, etc.

Which one of the above states whom I support is oppressing Muslims in your eyes? How is it proven?

Don’t be a pawn of foreign powers.

I don't see people like you as much different than people who support ISIS.

Lol. You are just taking shots here.

As an Orthodox Sunni Muslim, I oppose Daesh and all such groups because they are Khawarij Takfiris and also because they are instruments of Western powers to promote civil wars in Muslim nations.

Research about the links of ISIS and Israel Defense Forces which even Ban Ki Moon alluded to.

 

[maithil]

Time for Pakistani Awam to choose a side. With fellow muslim brother Turkey or, "calling both sides to show restraint" China.

 

[Numerous]

Turkey can imprison 7,000 ‘Muslims’ for the coup attempt facing international condemnation, yet it is wrong for China to do the same?

Have the uighurs tried to do a coup in china? No they haven't so theres no comparison.

US propaganda accuses Turkey of funding ISIS and murdering/imprisoning Kurds.

Stop having double standards. You see I can play with words also.

Well I heard it from someone who wasn't the US so it's fine.

Throw in the words concentration camps, ethnic cleansing, communism, and you have all the sensationalist Cold War rhetoric you can dream of.

Is it our fault if China is using camps and is effectively ruled by a communist party? Just because something sounds like cold war rhetoric, it doesn't mean that it's false automatically.

If Turkey has a right to defend its territorial sovereignty against non-state actors, then so does China. Both countries face the same enemy and the same tactics of misinformation and propaganda warfare.

So are you saying that the uighur population is an enemy of China?

It is in our interest to show a united front against the West.

Not every evil nation in the world is western.

I will support the governments and territorial integrity of Turkey, China, Pakistan, KSA, Iran, and any others who are working to bring freedom and independence to the Muslim world to fight the onslaught of proxy, sectarian, civil wars ravaging the Muslim world.

So you're going to support a country like Iran, who is actively responsible for sectarianism and proxy wars, in order to fight against sectarianism and proxy wars. How does that even sense. It's like saying you're going to give a known murderer a gun because you are against murders.

We have to stem the tide of invasions and bloodshed currently enveloping Syria, Yemen, Libya, Palestine, Somalia, Kashmir, etc.

Stem them by supporting countries like Iran who are pretty much responsible for much of the bloodshed? Your plans not going to stop anything.

Which one of the above states whom I support is oppressing Muslims in your eyes? How is it proven?

Iran. You put your support behind a very sectarian regime who is responsible for a lot of bloodshed.

I don't think you have bad intentions but you make really bad choices.

Don’t be a pawn of foreign powers.

We both know I'm not a pawn. I don't think you're a pawn either and you seem like a nice guy but your politics is awful.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Have the uighurs tried to do a coup in china? No they haven't so theres no comparison.



Well I heard it from someone who wasn't the US so it's fine.



Is it our fault if China is using camps and is effectively ruled by a communist party? Just because something sounds like cold war rhetoric, it doesn't mean that it's false automatically.



So are you saying that the uighur population is an enemy of China?



Not every evil nation in the world is western.




So you're going to support a country like Iran, who is actively responsible for sectarianism and proxy wars, in order to fight against sectarianism and proxy wars. How does that even sense. It's like saying you're going to give a known murderer a gun because you are against murders.



Stem them by supporting countries like Iran who are pretty much responsible for much of the bloodshed? Your plans not going to stop anything.



Iran. You put your support behind a very sectarian regime who is responsible for a lot of bloodshed.

I don't think you have bad intentions but you make really bad choices.


We both know I'm not a pawn. I don't think you're a pawn either and you seem like a nice guy but your politics is awful.

So you are sectarian. You have proven you can’t do anything but mudsling.

I don’t need your certification. I am a proud Muslim who is also a proud Pakistani.

I don’t need your analysis to realize who is the real threat to Muslims, and it’s not China.

Western Muslims need to stop being puppets of their host countries and stand united for our interests.

We are done here.

Time for Pakistani Awam to choose a side. With fellow muslim brother Turkey or, "calling both sides to show restraint" China.

We choose both.

 

[beijingwalker]

Time for Pakistani Awam to choose a side. With fellow muslim brother Turkey or, "calling both sides to show restraint" China.

That's our consistant foreign policy, Turkey does give your lip service, we are not hotheaded Turks, we think more about how to get things done, you can have lip service countries but what exactly they can help you? In UN or they can give you the bomb? Talking is cheap, people should care more about how to get things solved, we result oriented people.

 

[Beast]

We condemn musharraf all the time for it.

Hence we kicked him from power via protests.



Same Muslim Brotherhood Imam hypocrites who are the usual CIA puppets.

They scream for Palestine and Syria, but are silent about Kashmir, Somalia, Yemen, Afghanistan, Iraq, Burma.

We know them very well. This same brigade worked to tarnish Nouman Ali Khan, support gay rights activists in the Muslim community, and take over masajid in the US from non-MB.

Trump is jailing Latino children on the border in genuine concentration camps where they are raped, murdered, and separated from their parents but these Imams are silent.

Instead they are badmouthing China, and promoting US propaganda.



China is trying to control violence in Xinjiang using de-radicalization and promoting tradition Sufi Islam and Uyghur culture for members of those organizations who are proxies for foreign powers.

How many of these people fought in Syria for Isis? It should be worrying for us all.

CIA is trying to make this a second Chechnya. It is part of their Cold War against China, and we should be their willing pawns.

1 million inmates is a rubbished lie and so is the concentration camp claim.

You will all be eating your words when all these people are back out, Uyghurs become wealthy and affluent, and Chinese Xinjiang is a tourist hotspot for Muslims around the world.

Turkish support only Pan Islamic and Turkish interest. Dostum, a proven war criminal, who murder hundred thousands of pasthun is shield by turkish intelligence. Unless someone claim pasthun is not Muslim.