11 Feb '13: Pakistan conducts test fires of two Hatf-IX Nasr BRBMs

[The Deterrent]

Obviously you know that. But I assure you, an year from now, you will see your moron compatriots jumping around claiming that Nasr cannot be intercepted by the most advanced SaM systems of US, India & Israel, just because their dear ISPR told them so.

Coming to topic. Can you tell what does pakistan hopes to achieve by this missile. I always had the impression that Nasr was to stop Indian troops from invading pakistan, but how?

60km is just shitty range. Most aircraft in the Indian can perform air interdiction very easily at that range(Even LCA, with only its current capabilities, without IOC). Even Rudra could take it for a ride. So most probably, the missile won't be fired at all.

Even if it is fired, maneuverability is not a big thing. All SAMS are designed to counter aircraft and cruise missiles, which are much more maneuverable than Nasr will ever be. The advantage with ballistic missile comes with its speed. But since the range of the missile is too low, I doubt it will have a speed to challenge even the less advanced SAM systems.

Even if the missile hits its target, it will be considered as a nuclear attack on India and we will take appropriate measures to respond(You know what I mean). So, my question. What does this missile give pakistan that it did not already posses?

Well morons are on both sides of the border, no?

What I conclude from this statement is that Nasr is prone to interception by any tactical ABM or SAM which India currently possesses or is deploying.

No, it is designed to be of just 60 km range. Pakistan already has nuclear delivery systems that strike up to 300 kms, which can be modified for tactical role.
Maneuverability PLUS ballistic speed; that is something SAMs cannot counter. We are talking about an estimated Mach 3-5 (a rough guess).

The missile provides Pakistan the capability of rapid and under-the-cover deployment in the battlefield. So it plugs in the loop holes create by a possible rapid foreign invasion (CSD). See, larger nuclear weapons and their delivery systems take longer time to mobilize, and are more prone to detection by intelligence sources. Nasr removes this handicap, AT the battlefield.

 

[Windjammer]

You do NOT have reasoning skill... too bad cannot pass in Competitive exams... Show a picture in which the Babur missile comes out of the under water platform!

Albeit, the Indian sub launched system has been in the news for sometimes, but it was just the other week the Indian members resorted to their chest thumping. Likewise until you people see Babur breaking out of sea surface, the banter will continue.
As for your competitive thing, remember your airforce is just working on the ALCM, while R'had is very much operational with PAF.

 

[The Deterrent]

Babur is a LACM, which has not been configured for sub surface launch..even if VL version of Babur if available in future..Pakistan submarines..do not have vertical launch capabilities.

Pakistan is developing Babur SLCM to be launched via the 533mm torpedo tubes of submarines.

@AhaseebA Is it possible to deploy thermobaric warhead instead of a TN on this delivery system?

Of course it is possible, there is no technical hurdle in the way.

Huh? Has it been tested against all known Anti Tactical Missile Defence Systems? Why do these guys keep shooting from the hip?

It has been designed. Not proved.

 

[474474]

Any tactical Nuke usage will escalate to full fledged nuclear war. And even if India stops its advance if Pakistan uses Nasr', entire world will condemn Pakistan, impose sanctions and will raise issue of taking or limiting Pakistan's nuclear arsenal along with IAEA and UN observer to check the security of Pakistani nukes.

Think about why India wants to push Pakistan to use Nukes. You can kill few millions of Indians, but it will be disastrous for Pakistan on whole.

I am Evil Yindoo Baniya.

Spoken like a true Indian!
Kill a few million Indians, no big deal as long as Pakistan loses right? And uncle Sam(Indian definition of whole world) pats you on the back?

 

[474474]

Why d range is only 60 km???

Is pakistan gning to Use these missslies on their ppls in balochistan????

Makes too much sense.
I'm sure zardari and kayani both Baluch ethnically would approve of that

 

[Rocky25]

Albeit, the Indian sub launched system has been in the news for sometimes, but it was just the other week the Indian members resorted to their chest thumping. Likewise until you people see Babur breaking out of sea surface, the banter will continue.
As for your competitive thing, remember your airforce is just working on the ALCM, while R'had is very much operational with PAF.

Ha ha ha... We did that, So you did that... We will do this and you will also do this... So as of now there is NO SLBM with Pakistan!

It is not the competitive thing of the weapons we posses! Read again!

Spoken like a true Indian!
Kill a few million Indians, no big deal as long as Pakistan loses right? And uncle Sam(Indian definition of whole world) pats you on the back?

Like it or not, India won't sit back if Nuke is used against its forces....!

 

[KRAIT]

Spoken like a true Indian!
Kill a few million Indians, no big deal as long as Pakistan loses right? And uncle Sam(Indian definition of whole world) pats you on the back?

See you have no NFU policy. You will be the one who will use Nukes first.Indians are going o die in millions anyway.

I a mtelling you that even if you fire nukes on us and kill millions of Indians BUT we don't fire back with nukes, your country will go down the drain.

So either you use nukes or not, your country will loose the most.

Win Win for India.

 

[lightoftruth]

congrats, seems like user trials pinched with lil overstatements from ISPR .pakistans nuclear threashold has been reduced with its induction although it works fine for strategy makers of both sides .

it even helps the arguement of talibanization of comparatively lower rank officers handling radioactive materials producing a dirty bomb.

 

[Shadow_Hunter]

Well morons are on both sides of the border, no?

What I conclude from this statement is that Nasr is prone to interception by any tactical ABM or SAM which India currently possesses or is deploying.

No, it is designed to be of just 60 km range. Pakistan already has nuclear delivery systems that strike up to 300 kms, which can be modified for tactical role.
Maneuverability PLUS ballistic speed; that is something SAMs cannot counter. We are talking about an estimated Mach 3-5 (a rough guess).

The missile provides Pakistan the capability of rapid and under-the-cover deployment in the battlefield. So it plugs in the loop holes create by a possible rapid foreign invasion (CSD). See, larger nuclear weapons and their delivery systems take longer time to mobilize, and are more prone to detection by intelligence sources. Nasr removes this handicap, AT the battlefield.

Why do your missiles need to be mobilized, don't you have silos?

 

[The Deterrent]

Why do your missiles need to be mobilized, don't you have silos?

When and who said that??

All land-based nuclear delivery systems of Pakistan are Road-mobile, designed to be launched via TELs.

 

[Safriz]

I dont see this news on any channel...

 

[Shadow_Hunter]

When and who said that??

All land-based nuclear delivery systems of Pakistan are Road-mobile, designed to be launched via TELs.

Then build silos. Any of your medium range missile has a better chance of hitting India than this shitty Nasr ever will. I doubt with such a low range it will ever reach Mach 3-5.

 

[Rocky25]

See you have no NFU policy. You will be the one who will use Nukes first.Indians are going o die in millions anyway.

I a mtelling you that even if you fire nukes on us and kill millions of Indians BUT we don't fire back with nukes, your country will go down the drain.

So either you use nukes or not, your country will loose the most.

Win Win for India.

That does not make India a win-win position unless all nukes are grabbed and break Pakistan even more pieces!

 

[The Deterrent]

Then build silos. Any of your medium range missile has a better chance of hitting India than this shitty Nasr ever will. I doubt with such a low range it will ever reach Mach 3-5.

If, by silos, you mean hardened storage facilities, then Pakistan does have them. But they cannot launch missiles from those facilities.
I think you are being very biased. Pakistan already has loads (relatively) of SRBMs and MRBMs for strategic purposes.

 

[Emmie]

I dont see this news on any channel...

I saw the news on Geo and ARY.... It's in.