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1,100km trench built alongside Pak-Afghan border in Balochistan

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Looks ineffective
Why?

waste of money anyone o fill it up and pass thru it or just bring a small foldable bridge with him if he want to cross it with a vehicle

Sounds too easy but it very difficult. Still for better protection Crocodiles and Alligators were suggested. No one would dare to come close...

First step hmmmm wouldn't it have been a better idea to use the money from this project + more to solidly fence with lights and man it properly once and for all. Anyhow people on ground are more aware of options and their problems
If you look at the pictures that have been posted you can see some Afghan fortifications. This clearly indicates that it is well within Pakistan and very close to the border. This is the first line of defence after the Afghan border fortifications. Next would be a fence or a wall (very costly option).

Mine it extensively and have scattered posts with ground surveillance radar and cheap drones, would make it very painful for a crossing. How about having vibration sensors so as soon as a mine goes off the nearest post gets notified.
From the Afghan border till the Trench would be know as Zero Line which is a designated area that is not owned by both bordering States hence it can not be mined. Mining can be done after the trench till the fence or wall.
 
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Doesnot really look like a deep trench, anyway good to keep Afghanis and Indian terrorists out of Pakistan.
 
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If Pakistan is digging trenches and building walls on the border with Afghanistan, How will it use Afghanistan as strategic depth during war with India?

Does this mean that Pakistan has adopted a new military strategy? Seems like Pakistan would go full offensive with China backing them up during the war in defensive positions.
 
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If Pakistan is digging trenches and building walls on the border with Afghanistan, How will it use Afghanistan as strategic depth during war with India?

Does this mean that Pakistan has adopted a new military strategy? Seems like Pakistan would go full offensive with China backing them up during the war in defensive positions.
Yes strategic depth concept died at 15:15 hrs PST on 28 May 1998.
 
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I understand the nuclear dimension but Pakistan would have to use Nasr on Day 1 as part of its offensive? Else Pakistan would use it on its own land. I think this is where Chinese army presence in Pakistan is key as Pakistan Army could go full throttle and use Nasr on Indian land.
 
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I understand the nuclear dimension but Pakistan would have to use Nasr on Day 1 as part of its offensive? Else Pakistan would use it on its own land. I think this is where Chinese army presence in Pakistan is key as Pakistan Army could go full throttle and use Nasr on Indian land.
Chal yaar dimagh kharab na kar without nuclear weapon we stop you at border in 1965 Nasr will only use in case of Indian cold start doctrine which we already shoved into rear end of its designer by developing sub KT nuclear warheads.
Don't quote me further dimagh pata nahien kahan chood ker aya hai.
 
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I understand the nuclear dimension but Pakistan would have to use Nasr on Day 1 as part of its offensive? Else Pakistan would use it on its own land. I think this is where Chinese army presence in Pakistan is key as Pakistan Army could go full throttle and use Nasr on Indian land.
Precisely, Nasr is for Cold strike doctrine to avoid full scale nuclear war...
 
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If Pakistan is digging trenches and building walls on the border with Afghanistan, How will it use Afghanistan as strategic depth during war with India?

Does this mean that Pakistan has adopted a new military strategy? Seems like Pakistan would go full offensive with China backing them up during the war in defensive positions.



Most likely not all the border is in trench, and tunnels can be build to sneak in Afghanistan whenever needed. But never heard Pakistan had any official policy of strategic depth in Afghanistan, India is not strong enough, if it was, India could have won the war, and come dined in Lahore Gymkhana a few hundred kilometers away from India.

Pakistan military docrine currently is defence-offensive, if you want to know.
 
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Precisely, Nasr is for Cold strike doctrine to avoid full scale nuclear war...

India's cold start doctorine died the day NASR came onboard but my point was that NASR would now be part of the Pakistan's version of cold start doctorine. The fact that Pakistan is closing the broders with Afghanistan indicates how confident and prepared Pakistan is on going full throttle on the offensive.
 
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Most likely not all the border is in trench, and tunnels can be build to sneak in Afghanistan whenever needed. But never heard Pakistan had any official policy of strategic depth in Afghanistan, India is not strong enough, if it was, India could have won the war, and come dined in Lahore Gymkhana a few hundred kilometers away from India.

Pakistan military docrine currently is defence-offensive, if you want to know.

I think it would be full offensive war to capture Kashmir. Pakistan would be fully ready by 2018.
 
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I think it would be full offensive war to capture Kashmir. Pakistan would be fully ready by 2018.


Pakistan is full ready now. But under Nuclear Weapons, Limited War is high possibilty. full fledge war of elimination, pray tell, it should never happen..
 
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ISLAMABAD: After about three years of constant efforts, Pakistan has ultimately completed the construction of a massive trench in Balochistan alongside its porous border with Afghanistan to keep separatists, smugglers and militants from sneaking into the country.

“Excavation work on several-hundred-kilometre-long trench on Chaman-Kandhar border has been completed,” Deputy Commissioner Chaman Khuda-e-Dad Aga told The Express Tribune.

The strategic project of 1,100-kilometre-long trench with the cost of Rs14 billion was initiated along Pak-Afghan border in Balochistan by Frontier Corps in 2013.

The 11-foot-deep and 14-foot-wide ditch on the entire stretch of the border is contributing in efforts by the security forces to have a proper border management, an official of the provincial Home Department said.

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In the next phase, the project will be extended to the entire over 2,400-kilometre-long border and after its completion, travel between the two countries will only be allowed through officially-designated crossing points.

The FC, at the beginning of the project, had maintained that the trench would “not only help in effectively controlling the movement of drugs, arms and ammunition smugglers but will also help in stopping the intrusion of terrorists and illegal immigrants”.

“Proper management on all of our international borders is an essential need for a peaceful Pakistan,” Balochistan government’s spokesperson Anwaar-ul-Haq Kakar said. “In accordance with our laws, we are making our efforts to discipline cross-border travelling with Afghanistan and other countries.”

He went on to say, “No one has the right of objection if Pakistan is enforcing a proper management on its border regions.”

The spokesperson is of the view that the proper border management on the Pakistani borders is also in the interest of the neighbouring countries.

Two charred bodies found in Balochistan near Pak-Afghan border

“The border management will contribute to strengthen our system to check the intrusion of Indian-sponsored Baloch insurgents and Indian spies in Balochistan,” he added.

“It is an undeniable fact that a loose control on the porous borders in the past had allowed several hundred illegal immigrants to enter into Balochistan and now same elements are threatening the law and order situation in the province,” Kakar said.

Commenting on the construction of deep ditch last year, former ambassador to Afghanistan Rustam Shah Mohmand had said the project might have blessings of the United States.

In November 2012, a senior diplomat said that the US recognised the Durand Line as an international border. “If the government in Kabul has other interpretation, that’s certainly their business,” Richard E Hoagland, US deputy chief of mission in Pakistan, had said at a media discussion.

Pakistan for the first time announced in 2005 that it had plans to build a 2,400-kilometre fence along its border with Afghanistan to check armed militants and drug smugglers slipping between the two countries.

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Former president General (retd) Pervez Musharraf had subsequently offered to mine the border as well but the idea could not materialise till 2009 due to an objection by Afghanistan. The opposition by Kabul was based on an argument that the plan would undermine its stand on the Durand Line.

However, Pakistan along with US and Afghanistan jointly executed the project of fencing the 35-kliometre of border area when during 2010-11 the incursion by militants was on its peak.

The project was discontinued as both Washington and Kabul backed out of it due to unknown reasons.

http://tribune.com.pk/story/1126353/1100km-trench-built-alongside-pak-afghan-border-balochistan/
Thats much needed for pak internal security
 
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