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Another artice about that bomber Germany is looking to replace tornados with these ac http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/research/a23069/us-nato-6th-generation-fighter-planes/

Just install mk41 or mk56 vlc cells in the free space infront of the ram launcher I bet we will soon hear from this upgrade as german goverment is currently trying to boost defence spending.

F125 Frigates will probaby get ESSM BLK2 upgrade soon. its no coincidence that the "fitnessroom" is located where the vls cells usually are

No chance on earth they could stop western air dominance. Iran's only hope lies in firing as much ballistic missiles as possible before they are destroyed on the ground by USAF.

So nato says the Pakistani outpost was unmarked and opened fire on the chopper.

true, they are useless if you have thick clouds BUT: theoretically, if you have clear sky you can intercept anything! and you intercept it with the speed of light and over vast distances

A good first step would be for you to leave your NATO host country and sign up for Pakistan Army.

Think they will have to do that. But 80% are enough and Pakistan will surely open their supply lines in a couple days anyways.

You want Pakistan to attack your host nation? A bit masochistic, isnt it?

thank you for proving my point.

even if the numbers were true your knowledge of math would still suck :azn:

Nato gets most supplies by air and through north via train from europe. This is just a symbolic act by pak government to quiet calls for revenge.

Do you really think they dont have gps on their Apache Helicopters?

That's f#cked up, they either thought there is a giant taliban military base or they got straight order to attack the pak outpost.

Pars 3 is no gap filler. Its the best the market has to offer. The indian missile, whatever it might be called will have an inferior performance. 8km is more then enough since the helicopter wont ever lock upon targets bejond 5km.

italy wont sell choppers to pakistan

Exactly, in 6th century most people were stupid as hell and would believe pretty muchh everything if you are smart enough to make them believe. and blind trust in thousends of year old books shows a lack of free will.

no, not really

i woudnt be surprised if some of this idiots now got real weapons on the ship, if thats the case we will see many dead guys again and even larger crocodile tears. erdogan will spit bbig tones again and the rest of the world will laugh at him once again.

The sub deal with pakistan wasnt going to happend anyways both government and opposition are against it. They get their funds by the state based on their number of votes. Also keep in mind that 1-2bln € export contract streched over many years is tiny compared to the annual exports of over...