Facts Don't Lie - US Definitely Helping ISIS Against Russia in Syria

[Hamartia Antidote]

It's not semantics, it's simply untrue.

And yes, the Obama administration did represent the USA, as Trump does today.

Yes he was referring to the USA. Not Obama or Hillary.

 

[Eagle_storm]

isis is the product of CIA ,MOSSAD.
no doubt...

 

[Georg]

USA not Russia lied about "weapons of mass destruction" in Iraq to attack Iraq and prevent it from selling it's oil for Euros (instead of US dollars).

So much about trustworthiness.

read the different.... NEWS < vs > government claims ..... dont belive governent quotes around the world.... and dont belive russian news...

The current US President himself (Trump) said that the USA created ISIS.

The current US president claimed a lot of bullshit

 

[Piotr]

read the different.... NEWS < vs > government claims ..... dont belive governent quotes around the world.... and dont belive russian news...

But all US mainstream media repeated US government lies.
Since you don't trust Russian media here something from Iranian media:

Washington and Wall Street supporting global terrorists: Analyst
Fri Oct 20, 2017 01:40AM

Washington and Wall Street are supporting global terrorists, not the countries which are targeted in US President Donald Trump’s travel ban, an American journalist and political analyst says.

Abayomi Azikiwe, editor of the Pan-African News Wire, made the remarks in an interview with Press TV on Thursday, after a federal judge in the US state of Hawaii blocked Trump’s latest version of travel ban, saying it “plainly discriminates based on nationality.”

Derrick K. Watson, the judge of US Federal District Court in Honolulu, issued a nationwide order on Tuesday and blocked the third version of Trump’s controversial travel ban, calling it discriminatory and in contravention to immigration law.

The new regulations, set last month, indefinitely banned entry to the US by most nationals of Syria, Libya, Iran, Yemen, Somalia, Chad and North Korea. The restriction also targeted certain Venezuelan government officials and their families.

“I think this is a good decision by the judge in the state of Hawaii. This travel ban is outrageous. It’s targeting countries in Africa and the Middle East,” Azikiwe said.

“These countries are not sources of terrorism. The terrorists are being supported by Washington and Wall Street. They were the ones who had harbored al-Qaeda in Afghanistan. They were the ones who unleashed al-Qaeda and ISIS in Libya, in Syria, in Iraq, and now in Yemen,” he stated.

“So what needs to take place is an honest discussion on the origins of world-wide terrorism and the role of the United States, Britain and France in promoting these problems,” the journalist noted.

“So I think this decision is a good start. Hopefully, they will not try to initiate another travel ban, which will cause more confusion,” he concluded.
(...)
Source: http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2017/...-Wall-Street-are-supporting-global-terrorists

 

[Georg]

But all US mainstream media repeated US government lies.
Since you don't trust Russian media here something from Iranian media:

according to the US president the US media only spread fake news.... how they repeat what US government lies if they dont listen to their own president ????????????




befor you make any claims... look at the world free press index....


https://rsf.org/en/ranking

you realy want me to trust news from Iran ... one of the worst countrys in free press index 2017 world wide...

 

[Piotr]

according to the US president the US media only spread fake news.... how they repeat what US government lies if they dont listen to their own president ????????????




befor you make any claims... look at the world free press index....


https://rsf.org/en/ranking

you realy want me to trust news from Iran ... one of the worst countrys in free press index 2017 world wide...

Fake index from CIA founded "Reporters Without Borders" organisation (source)
Why in this "index" USA is 43rd ? Have you ever heard about Edward Snowden ? He is human rights defender and he was persecuted by regime in Washington. He had to flee to the Free World (China and Russia) and now he lives in exile in Russia.

Since you don't trust Russian and Iranian media here something from Pakistani media:

ISIS is a ‘tool’ of US: Hamid Karzai
April 20, 2017, 2:28 pm

Former Afghan President Hamid Karzai has said ISIS was a “tool” of the United States and that he does not differentiate between ISIS and America.

Karzai told Voice of America’s (VOA) Afghan service, “After it (the US) dropped the bomb on Afghanistan, it did not eliminate Daesh.”

“I consider Daesh their tool,” he said.

“I do not differentiate at all between Daesh and America,” he said. Karzai also dismissed criticism of Moscow's ties with the Taliban.

“They (Russia) talk to the Taliban,” Karzai said. “The US also talks to the Taliban. Norway, Germany and other countries also talk to them. Russia also has the right to hold talks with the Taliban,” he added.

However, he told VOA, “The Taliban is a major reality in today's Afghanistan. The Americans themselves say that they (Taliban) control 50 percent of the Afghan territory. When a force controls 50 percent, countries have no option but to talk to them. The US itself talks to them — they meet them in their office in Qatar.”

This comes after Karzai, on Saturday lashed out at government and the US over the bombing. He said he did not recognize the government, and had decided to work to get rid of America in Afghanistan and criticized government for “allowing the US to drop such a big non-nuclear bomb. If government approved it, the act is treason.”

He said, “The bombing was an insult to Afghanistan and that the US was just using Daesh as an excuse.” Karzai also said it was a violation of Afghanistan's sovereignty and a violation of the environment.

Last Thursday, the US fired off a Massive Ordnance Air Blast (MOAB), commonly known as the Mother of All Bombs, against a ISIS tunnel complex in the remote area of Nangarhar. Officials said this week that 96 ISIS militants were killed in the bombing.
Source: http://nation.com.pk/national/20-Apr-2017/isis-is-a-tool-of-us-hamid-karzai

 

[Georg]

sure because if its a fact that does not fit in your world view it is news made by CIA created organisation MUHAHAHAHAAHAAAHA

ever wonder why that nations rank so low in every world wide ranking no matter what the topic is?

education, freedom, free press, human rights, female rights, devlopment, production, etc etc....

 

[WaLeEdK2]

Remember when they bombed SAA position and gave a clear route for ISIS to take them over?

You don't have to be a genius or a conspiracy theorist to figure this shit out. It is what it is and it's not the first time.

 

[rambro]

It's an open secret.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Exactly, Trump himself said that the USA created ISIS. And now he is continuing their policies.

As usual you are taking things literally. Trump already said he was being sarcastic towards Obama. Yet you persist in your allegations. You'll be repeating this for the next 10 years here on PDF.

Listen to the video...he's speaking directly to people like you! "The lowest form of life" People who know exactly what he means but play dumb and take his words literally to satisfy their agenda..

I've noticed this pattern with you before and I'm sure you will continue it. Just keep in mind many people on PDF will be hearing "lowest of the low" in their minds as you do. You will only succeed in losing more and more "face" here.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Anybody who argues that US did not help create ISIS is a Trump hater.

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/01/02/p...obama-hillary-clinton-created-isis/index.html

Lol! Try again. Please watch the video above. He says media like CNN simply have an agenda by insinuating that he meant it literally.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

As usual you are taking things literally. Trump already said he was being sarcastic towards Obama. Yet you persist in your allegations. You'll be repeating this for the next 10 years here on PDF.

Listen to the video...he's speaking directly to people like you! "The lowest form of life" People who know exactly what he means but play dumb and take his words literally to satisfy their agenda..

I've noticed this pattern with you before and I'm sure you will continue it. Just keep in mind many people on PDF will be hearing "lowest of the low" in their minds as you do. You will only succeed in losing more and more "face" here.

Yes, clearly the world is focused on how much face I have personally lost, not agonising over the possible end of the world started by Donald "pussy grabber" Trump.

If you believe that, then try actually asking people about it, not just other people in the world but even Americans themselves. Donald Trump is one of the most hated men on the planet right now.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Yes, clearly the world is focused on how much face I have personally lost, not agonising over the possible end of the world started by Donald "pussy grabber" Trump.

If you believe that, then try actually asking people about it, not just other people in the world but even Americans themselves. Donald Trump is one of the most hated men on the planet right now.

Well I'm glad to see you aren't denying you post things as "facts" when you know full well they arent.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Well I'm glad to see you aren't denying you post things as "facts" when you know full well they arent.

Donald Trump said that the USA under Obama created ISIS.

Donald Trump also said China is not a currency manipulator.

Like it or not, Donald Trump represents the USA in the world now. Ask anyone to name an American person and the first name will be Donald Trump.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Donald Trump said that the USA under Obama created ISIS.

Donald Trump also said China is not a currency manipulator.

Like it or not, Donald Trump represents the USA in the world now. Ask anyone to name an American person and the first name will be Donald Trump.

Um..yeah..but what does it have to do with your multiple posts here in this thread saying Trump said the US created ISIS when Trump himself said that people like you who repeat this are just playing dumb since they know full well he was being sarcastic...they just have an agenda by insinuating that he really meant it.