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Haley: Nuke deal allows Iran to become new North Korea

Washington's ambassador to the United Nations warned Tuesday that, if left unchanged, the Iran nuclear deal could allow Tehran to pose the same kind of missile threat to US cities as North Korea.

President Donald Trump is due to decide in the middle of next month whether he believes Iran is living up to its commitments or whether to seek new US sanctions that could torpedo the accord.

His ambassador to the United Nations, Nikki Haley, would not say explicitly what her advice has been -- but left little room for doubt that she believes it is time to re-examine the "flawed" deal.

"I'm not making the case for decertifying. What I am saying is that, should he decide to decertify he has grounds to stand on," she told an audience at the American Enterprise Institute.

"What I am doing is just trying to lay out the options of what's out there, what we need to be looking at and knowing that the end result has to be the national security of the United States.

"We should at no time be beholden to any agreement and sacrifice the security of the United States to say that we'll do it."

Under a 2015 deal signed by Iran and six world powers, Tehran is supposed to roll back its nuclear program and submit to inspections in return for Washington and its allies lifting some sanctions.

Thus far, the IAEA UN nuclear watchdog and the US State Department have reported that Tehran has complied with the terms of the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA), the core of the deal.

But Haley, and other influential figures in Trump's Washington, argue that Iran's continuing alleged breaches of limits placed on its ballistic missile program violate the spirit of the deal.

The previous missile sanctions were listed in an annex to UN S ecurity Council Resolution 2231, under which the world body adopted the JCPOA into international law.

Therefore, Haley argues, Tehran's ongoing development of ballistic missiles and alleged support for global terrorism should be taken into account when Trump judges the success of the deal.

Credible threat
And she warned that the terms of the JCPOA begin to expire in ten years' time -- opening the way for them to resume weapons research.

"That's the day when Iran's military may very well already have the missile technology to send a nuclear warhead to the United States, a technology that North Korea only recently developed," she said.

Former president Barack Obama never submitted the JCPOA to Congress to be approved as a binding treaty, and US lawmakers passed a bill obliging the White House to recertify it every 90 days.

If, as seems increasingly likely, Trump now decides next month to declare that Iran is in breach of the agreement, Congress will then have 60 days to debate whether to re-impose some or all sanctions.

European capitals would oppose this, arguing the agreement is still the best mechanism to restrain even an untrustworthy Iran's nuclear ambitions and that world powers should stand by signed agreements.

But hawks in Washington argue that if Trump and Haley make good on their threat to find against Iran this would not collapse the deal immediately -- and may help strengthen it in the longer term.

"Trump's approach is already motivating European countries to discuss options to fix the deal," argued Mark Dubowitz, chief executive of the Foundation for Defense of Democracies.

"Another certification by Trump -– especially when he made it clear that he would not certify Iran again -– would undermine that credible threat," he said.
 
She's absolutely right. But the US is already at least a whole decade too late to do something about it.

Iran has 80 million people and quite industrialized. Unlike Iraq and Syria, it is far too nationalistic and has far less opposing factions that can be utilized by the West to "divide and conquer". Israel at least has deterrence in the form of their own nukes. Saudis on the other hand will be screwed unless they quickly throw together their own nuclear weapons program like -- yesterday! Conventional weapons from the US won't ever measure up to Iranian/Israeli nukes.
 
She's absolutely right. But the US is already at least a whole decade too late to do something about it.

Iran has 80 million people and quite industrialized. Unlike Iraq and Syria, it is far too nationalistic and has far less opposing factions that can be utilized by the West to "divide and conquer". Israel at least has deterrence in the form of their own nukes. Saudis on the other hand will be screwed unless they quickly throw together their own nuclear weapons program like -- yesterday! Conventional weapons from the US won't ever measure up to Iranian/Israeli nukes.
The US is better to disarm itself and destroy its nuclear arsenal before preaching others ... by fabricating stories about Iran nuclear program in exact way they've been doing for the past 4 decades which turned to be some bunch of lies the US can not hide this fact that it has violated the terms of agreement for several times in a way that many countries are worried about the future of this deal and warned the US to adhere to the deal while IAEA has affirmed that Iran is abiding by its nuclear commitments for 8 times since the deal back in 2015 ...

Actually she lies :
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/top-5-lies-nikki-haley-iran-deal_us_59b00074e4b0b5e531029d76
5 Lies Nikki Haley Just Told About The Iran Deal

At the home of the American Enterprise Institute, a Washington-based think tank whose scholars helped make the case for the devastating war with Iraq, U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Nikki Haley made the case for Trump to kill an agreement that is effectively forestalling both a nuclear-armed Iran and war with Iran.



In so doing, Haley relied on a host of lies, distortions and obfuscations to paint an Iran that is cheating on its nuclear commitments and terrorizing the world. Lest the U.S. once again repeat the mistakes that led the U.S. to war with Iraq, it is worth rebutting several of these lies:



“Iran has been caught in multiple violations over the past year and a half.”



The IAEA, in its eighth report since the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) went into effect, once again affirmed that Iran is abiding by its nuclear commitments last week. Yet, Haley falsely asserted that Iran has been caught in “multiple violations” since the accord went into effect.



Her evidence centers around Iran exceeding a “limit” on heavy water on two separate occasions in 2016. Unfortunately for her accusation, there is no hard limit mandated by the JCPOA – which indicates that Iran shall export its excess heavy water, and that Iran’s needs are estimated to be 130 metric tons. Thus, there is no violation on heavy water, and Iran continues to abide by the provisions of the JCPOA – including notably on uranium enrichment and inspector access.



“There are hundreds of undeclared sites that have suspicious activity that they (the IAEA) haven’t looked at.”



In the question and answer portion of the event, Haley asserted that there were not one or two suspicious sites that the IAEA can’t access – but hundreds! Of course, the U.S. intelligence community likely monitors dozens if not hundreds of non-nuclear sites in an attempt to detect any potential covert Iranian nuclear activities. Yet the Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Paul Selva, stated in July that “Based on the evidence that’s been presented by the intelligence community, it appears that Iran is in compliance with the rules that were laid out in the JCPOA.” Hence, there is no indication of Iranian cheating and no need for the IAEA to knock on the door of hundreds of “suspicious” sites, as Haley suggests.



If there is solid evidence that a few of those suspicious sites that Haley cited are harboring covert nuclear activities, the U.S. can present the evidence for those suspicions to the IAEA and press them to investigate. Critically, however, Haley declined to do so at her meeting with the IAEA last month. According to a U.S. official, “Ambassador Haley did not ask the IAEA to inspect any specific sites, nor did she provide the IAEA with any new intelligence.”



“Iranian leaders…have stated publicly that they will refuse to allow IAEA inspections of their military sites. How can we know Iran is complying with the deal, if inspectors are not allowed to look everywhere they should look?”



While Iran barring an IAEA request permitted under the accord would be concerning, the IAEA has not recently had cause to request access to any non-nuclear site. Again, Haley has reportedly even declined to present evidence to the IAEA indicating that they should access any suspicious sites – military or otherwise. Hence, one can reasonably conclude that Haley’s statements are not based on legitimate fears, but are part of a political attack on the deal that her boss wants to unravel.



In fact, initial reporting on the U.S. pushing for military site inspections cast it as a justification for Trump withholding certification of the nuclear accord. As a result, when considering Iranian statements on military site access, one must also factor in the ample evidence suggesting that the Trump administration is fabricating a crisis to withdraw from the accord.


Further, there is little reason to take Iranian statements in response to Haley’s at face value. Iran issued similarly threatening statements ruling out inspections of military sites during negotiations in 2015, yet eventually allowed IAEA Director General Yukiya Amano access to the Parchin military base as well as the IAEA to collect samples at the site later that year.



“The deal [Obama] struck wasn’t supposed to be just about nuclear weapons. It was meant to be an opening with Iran; a welcoming back into the community of nations.”



As the Obama administration outlined ad-nauseam, the nuclear deal was limited to the nuclear sphere. There is no annex in the JCPOA directing the U.S. and Iran to settle their differences on Iraq, Syria or Yemen, or obligating Iran to comply with its international human rights obligations or transform to a true democracy. The Obama administration did hope that the JCPOA could build trust to enable the U.S. and Iran to potentially resolve issues outside of the nuclear sphere, but such hopes rested on engagement outside of the contours of the JCPOA. The JCPOA dealt with the number one national security threat presented by Iran – the possibility of an Iranian nuclear weapon. Haley’s assertion to the contrary is merely meant to cast the deal in a negative light.



“We should welcome a debate over whether the JCPOA is in U.S. national security interests. The previous administration set up the deal in a way that denied us that honest and serious debate.”



The U.S. Congress held dozens of hearings over several years to examine the Obama administration’s negotiations with Iran and – midway through the negotiations ― passed a law instituting a 60-day period of Congressional review wherein Obama could not begin to waive sanctions. Congress engaged in heated debate, and opponents of the accord poured in tens of millions of dollars in order to pressure Members of Congress to vote against the deal. No Republican legislator supported it despite there being no favorable alternative, and enough Democrats backed the accord in order to block resolutions of disapproval that would have killed the JCPOA in its crib.



That intensely partisan, fact-optional debate would once again decide the fate of the accord if Haley has her way – only this time, there would be no filibuster. If Trump withholds certification, even if Iran remains in compliance, Congress could consider and pass sanctions that kill the deal under expedited procedure thanks to little-noticed provisions in the Iran Nuclear Agreement Review Act. Trump could pass the buck to Congress and if every Member of Congress votes as they did in 2015, the deal would be dead.


 
Can someone please pass on the popcorn?

They are throwing fits about NK LOL Wait till orangutan nullifies the nuke deal with Iran and imposes sanctions. Folks, we are in for fireworks. Expect Iran to resume work on uranium enrichment.

LOL ab kya karoge 56 inch chest? Start picking a side already... LMAO
 
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مسئولان انگلیس نگران از اماکن ایران به کرۀ شمالی مخفیانه کمک کنند تا سلاح های هسته ای را به دست آورد.

نگرانی مقامات انگلیس از کمک محرمانه ایران به برنامه هسته‌ای کره شمالی
روزنامه دیلی تلگراف در گزارشی مدعی شد: مقامات انگلیس نگران‌اند که پیشرفت ناگهانی کره شمالی در توسعه تسلیحات هسته‌ای‌اش در نتیجه کمک مخفیانه ایران حاصل شده است. به نوشته روزنامه دیلی تلگراف، وزارت امور خارجه انگلیس در حال بررسی این مساله است که آیا کشورهای هسته‌ای کنونی و پیشین به کیم جونگ اون رهبر کره شمالی در توسعه برنامه هسته‌ای و موشکی‌اش کمک کرده‌اند تا وی بتواند کلاهک‌های هسته‌ای را روی موشک سوار کند. مقامات انگلیسی می‌گویند که قابل قبول نیست دانشمندان کره شمالی توانسته باشند به تنهایی به این پیشرفت در برنامه هسته‌ای و موشکی‌شان رسیده باشند. از این رو در حال بررسی یک فهرست از کشورهایی هستند که احتمال دارد در این مسیر به پیونگ یانگ کمک کرده باشند. بنا بر ادعای دیلی تلگراف، ایران در راس این فهرست قرار دارد و احتمال می‌رود که روسیه نیز به کره شمالی کمک کرده باشد.
این مقامات انگلیسی نگران‌اند که احتمالا کشورهایی به کره شمالی کمک کرده و تجربیات، دانش و تجهیزات در اختیار آنها قرار داده و پیونگ یانگ را به سمت تبدیل شدن به یک کشور هسته‌ای سوق داده‌اند.
یک وزیر دولت انگلیس گفت: دانشمندان کره شمالی نیز افرادی با برخی قابلیت‌ها هستند اما واضح است که آنها این کار را در خلاء و به تنهایی انجام نمی‌دهند.
http://www.isna.ir/news/96061910653/نگرانی-مقامات-انگلیس-از-کمک-محرمانه-ایران-به-برنامه-هسته-ای-کره

North Korea 'secretly helped by Iran to gain nuclear weapons', British officials fear, Foreign Affairs Secretary Boris Johnson, orders investigation
North Korea’s sudden advancement in developing nuclear weapons may be due to secret support from Iran, British officials fear.

The Foreign Office is investigating whether “current and former nuclear states” helped Kim Jong-Un in his drive to mount nuclear warheads on missiles.

Senior Whitehall sources told The Sunday Telegraph it is not credible that North Korean scientists alone brought about the technological advances.

Iran is top of the list of countries suspected of giving some form of assistance, while Russia is also in the spotlight.
The fear is that outside influences have provided North Korea with equipment or expertise that has moved them closer to becoming a nuclear nation.

“North Korean scientists are people of some ability, but clearly they’re not doing it entirely in a vacuum,” said one Government minister.

Another Foreign Office source said: “For them to have done this entirely on their own stretches the bounds of credulity.”

Boris Johnson, the Foreign Secretary, hinted at his department’s concerns last week as he took questions from MPs about the crisis.

“There is currently an investigation into exactly how the country has managed to make this leap in technological ability,” Mr Johnson said.

“We are looking at the possible role that may have been played, inadvertently or otherwise, by some current and former nuclear states.” He declined to name who he had in mind.

America will tomorrow seek approval from the United Nations Security Council for a ban on exporting oil to North Korea, according to a leaked draft resolution.

British officials have been taken aback by the speed of advancement in North Korea’s nuclear programme.

Last month the regime sent a missile over Japan, while this week an explosion at a testing site measured 6.3 on the Richter scale—10 times more powerful than the tremor from the last such test.

At the start of the year it was estimated that North Korea would need a decade before they could launch intercontinental ballistic missile with nuclear warheads, Government sources said. That has now been slashed to just a few years.

Britain’s most senior Cabinet ministers were briefed on the “fast forward” in the country’s nuclear capabilities at a National Security Council meeting last week, attended by senior intelligence figures.

Theresa May also talked to Donald Trump, the American President, about North Korea just days after he said “all options” remained on the table.

They argue that the "window of opportunity" for action is narrowing and may be closed if left until the end of Mr Trump's presidency.

However the US-UK focus remains on finding a diplomatic solution, with agreement among the UN Security Council being the key target.

Suspicions remain about how North Korea is managing to make such rapid advances in its nuclear programme.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...ea-secretly-helped-iran-gain-nuclear-weapons/
 
lol, its always covert 'outside help'.......in the case of the DPRK, Iran or Pakestan.......lol

Never fails!.......lol
 
What more they want from Iran? Sanctioned her and capped her nuclear program but still won't stop bithcing about her. Tokhm e khar kahin k.
 
Friendly troll, no capping shit on Iran........Iran does as it pleases.

When you control five A-raab capitals, control the worlds largest oil & gas reserves, have your hand on the biggest hydrocarbon spigot, and thumb your nose at shit-billy/ jew/ whoever like there ain't tomorrow.........then you can make fun of us!

Until then baby........both Russia/ China want to hang with us.........what more we need?

What more they want from Iran? Sanctioned her and capped her nuclear program but still won't stop bithcing about her. Tokhm e khar kahin k.
 
Friendly troll, no capping shit on Iran........Iran does as it pleases.

When you control five A-raab capitals, control the worlds largest oil & gas reserves, have your hand on the biggest hydrocarbon spigot, and thumb your nose at shit-billy/ jew/ whoever like there ain't tomorrow.........then you can make fun of us!

Until then baby........both Russia/ China want to hang with us.........what more we need?
5 Arab capitals? Names please. o_O
Wasn't making fun of you guys lol. :lol:
 
Baghdad, Damascus, Beirut, Sana, Doha.........and soon to be Manama (when and where we decide).

Next on our menu is monkey *** sawdi .........and I won't bother counting the emarati donkey's. These joker shudder at the thought of our name!........lol

We don't fight much ourselves........but you see this manhoos jonvar in my avatar.........this type of tokhme haram we use to get our job done everywhere........

5 Arab capitals? Names please. o_O
Wasn't making fun of you guys lol. :lol:
 
Baghdad, Damascus, Beirut, Sana, Doha.........and soon to be Manama (when and where we decide).

Next on our menu is monkey *** sawdi .........and I won't bother counting the emarati donkey's. These joker shudder at the thought of our name!........lol

We don't fight much ourselves........but you see this manhoos jonvar in my avatar.........this type of tokhme haram we use to get our job done everywhere........
OMG that's a whole bunch of capitals indeed.
LOL who's him? Looks like a fun guy.
 

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