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Pak-Afghan Border : Lets build a wall and make Afghans pay for it..!

No Muslim would call another Muslim by the name of an animal. This is guy is not a Pakistani . How many fake accounts have these Indians created just to mislead the rest of us? A lot of disoriented Muslims who have been on their own are used as tools against other Muslims and our allies (the UK/US/EU/ Afghanistan/ Iraq/ Pak./Turkey). This does not mean that all Afghans or Pakistanis or Saudis or entire nations are to blame. Please have some sense and don't fight against your fellow Muslims. The Afghans are our brothers and have a higher status with us than even our own.

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According to You what is US doing in Afghanistan ?Just curious are you an american citizen ?
 
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Shut up and stop calling everyone indian because they keep negtaive opinions of Afghans because of their involvement in almost evey major terrorist incident in Pakistan . So what i should call those who carried out masscare of children in school? They are worse than animals

Please don't be abusive. The practice of calling people by name of Animals is prevalent in animists and polytheistic folk. No UK based Pakistani Muslim I know would talk like you do. I am sorry if you are a Pakistani Muslim you probably hang around the same crowd that Rushdie did (that is why Rushdie despite being a Pakistani calls himself an Indian and we love Rushdie also but the Indians think differently). You are right though, I should not call everyone I disagree with an Indian but so many Indians impersonating as Jews and Pakistanis is very disorienting.

Muslims are not vengeful. Remember that the Prophet Muhammad's own Uncle (Amir Hamza) was brutalized by a polytheistic woman and he still forgave her and did not institute any punishment for her nor asked her to convert.
The Prophet Muhammad SAW himself spared the lives of the people of Taif. I am not a very good Muslim but I can tell when someone is behaving like a Pakistani Muslim perhaps. Even if the person were Indian , we should forgive them and the people who killed the children were after all misguided Muslims/ Afghans (some say). We cannot fight with our own brothers . . . we cannot fight with our own. This infighting is a sign that the polytheistic juju is winning. Don't confuse your friends for your enemies.
 
This guy is an Indian pretending to be a Pakistani. No Pakistani I know would ever view Mehmud Ghaznavi, Babar, Akbar, Shah Jahan, Aurangzeb or the Mughal / Muslim people in such a light. Do these Indians think we cannot tell our own ?

I did not know that anyone would view the Muslims in such a light until I came to the US & I heard the Indians speaking such abuse towards the Muslims. Some of them were civilized & pacifist like the Gandhi clan but the rest of them are simply not even kind. The Muslims and Pakistanis should be protected from such people and their strange practices (child sacrifices and worship of idols and strange animals).

I have read a lot of very traumatizing and horrifying things by Indians / Indians pretending to be Pakistanis / Indians pretending to be Jews on this forum alone. I have encountered a lot of very non straightforward people of Indian origin since then . If this "bozo" is not an Indian and is a Muslim then it is very alarming . With Muslims like these do we need enemies ?

It is a great misfortune for India & the world that the Muslims and the British ended colonization of India. People like this person "bozo" do not belong in Pakistan . If Indians brainwash Pakistanis like this then it is better for Pakistanis to sooner submit to Colonization by the British than to have such traitors in our midst. It is a great disappointment to see that this fellow Gandhi ended up giving India ... what they have done to Afghanistan and Pakistan and what they are doing to Europe & US is just wrong .



Oh my God! You are our Afghan Brother ! Oh my brother this man is not a Pakistani! We do not think like this man. Pleeease forgive our Pakistanis and our orphans and the Mujahideen brother. Allah SWT & the most High God is with you my brother !!! We love you my brother & will see to it that not only is Afghanistan like the best countries in Europe , that our own Pakistanis are become like the best of Afghans and the abominable are no more.

We yearn for another Mehumd Ghaznavi my Afghan brother. Some of the nice hindus think they have harmed Afghanistan - but they have only awakened it. We the Pakistanis seem to be no match for the Indians education (western acquired), "smarts", large numbers & voodoo. Some of our people were succumbing to Indian propangda and some of their culture and some food and clothing and magic and some of our children were becoming brown and black from intermarriage with them! Where is the Iranian? Where the Afghan/ our european brothers and our Turkish brethren ? Where is our deliverance, where our succor and aid Lord?

My apologies to the enlightened westernized , civilized Indians who care about what is fair and good.

It is not you but your ethnic identity(or rather what you 'claim' to be your ethnic origin) talking. You are a classical example of an ideal Pakistani. I understand your viewpoint that Afghans and Turkis and Farsis are master race of Pakistan and local converts should stay within their limits or else they should be treated as Indian agents.
 
This guy is an Indian pretending to be a Pakistani. No Pakistani I know would ever view Mehmud Ghaznavi, Babar, Akbar, Shah Jahan, Aurangzeb or the Mughal / Muslim people in such a light. Do these Indians think we cannot tell our own ?

I did not know that anyone would view the Muslims in such a light until I came to the US & I heard the Indians speaking such abuse towards the Muslims. Some of them were civilized & pacifist like the Gandhi clan but the rest of them are simply not even kind. The Muslims and Pakistanis should be protected from such people and their strange practices (child sacrifices and worship of idols and strange animals).

I have read a lot of very traumatizing and horrifying things by Indians / Indians pretending to be Pakistanis / Indians pretending to be Jews on this forum alone. I have encountered a lot of very non straightforward people of Indian origin since then . If this "bozo" is not an Indian and is a Muslim then it is very alarming . With Muslims like these do we need enemies ?

It is a great misfortune for India & the world that the Muslims and the British ended colonization of India. People like this person "bozo" do not belong in Pakistan . If Indians brainwash Pakistanis like this then it is better for Pakistanis to sooner submit to Colonization by the British than to have such traitors in our midst. It is a great disappointment to see that this fellow Gandhi ended up giving India ... what they have done to Afghanistan and Pakistan and what they are doing to Europe & US is just wrong .



Oh my God! You are our Afghan Brother ! Oh my brother this man is not a Pakistani! We do not think like this man. Pleeease forgive our Pakistanis and our orphans and the Mujahideen brother. Allah SWT & the most High God is with you my brother !!! We love you my brother & will see to it that not only is Afghanistan like the best countries in Europe , that our own Pakistanis are become like the best of Afghans and the abominable are no more.

We yearn for another Mehumd Ghaznavi my Afghan brother. Some of the nice hindus think they have harmed Afghanistan - but they have only awakened it. We the Pakistanis seem to be no match for the Indians education (western acquired), "smarts", large numbers & voodoo. Some of our people were succumbing to Indian propangda and some of their culture and some food and clothing and magic and some of our children were becoming brown and black from intermarriage with them! Where is the Iranian? Where the Afghan/ our european brothers and our Turkish brethren ? Where is our deliverance, where our succor and aid Lord?

My apologies to the enlightened westernized , civilized Indians who care about what is fair and good.

Dude, you need help. Seriously. And fast. Any Afghan who rejects the Durrand Line is not a brother to me. Those who accept it, are fine and can stay on their side of that damn line. While those who worship foreigner invaders, are welcome to join the Harem of these foreign looters.

None of the people you mentioned came to spread Islam here, they came to fill their coffers and slaughter and enslave. We became Muslim due to Sufi saints, who's dargahs dot our beloved nation and who have been targeted by an ideology which was allowed to fester here through the Afghan terrorists.
 
For eternity, West-Asia has been exposed to invading Afghan hoards of savages attacking Indian sub-continent to satisfy their hunger for material wealth by loot and plunder. Passing through West-Asia they struck deep into mainland India, leaving behind a trail of destruction and river of blood.

Continuous plunder of trade convoys by hoards of tribal Afghan savages forced the British authorities to invade Afghanistan and actually divide it into two - the division line came to be known as Durand line. Pakistan as a successor state of British-India inherited this Durad line as the de-facto international border between Pakistan and Afghanistan.

Ever since partition of Indian subcontinent, Afghanistan has tried to undermine sovereignty of Pakistani state by disputing Durand line as an international border. It has attempted to influence North-Western region politics in and created nationalist sentiments in hope to annex it.

As Afghan-Soviet war unfolded, Pakistan became the largest host of fleeing Afghan refugees against all odds - for which Afghans will remain forever ungrateful. It has deeply undermined our socio-economic interests, left our demographics permanently scarred and gave us the menace of terrorism.

Once hosted as refugees, Afghan have attempted every illicit means to obtain Pakistani citizen and identification documents illegally and use them to commit crimes. Against all international rules and efforts of Pakistani state, they refuse to go back to their homeland. When deported forcefully, many infiltrate illegally into Pakistan again.

Unregistered commerce and smuggling business run by Afghans have cost local industry and treasury billions in undocumented losses. Hosting Afghan refugees has cost Pakistan billions of rupees in direct and indirect cost. Afghan introduced to Pakistan, the gun and heroin culture which has completely destroyed the youth.


So here is the plan...

Fence and mine the entire Pak-Afghan border...put Afghan refugees to work as low paid workers to compensate state, which has weathered billions of losses by hosting them....borders walls in modern times dont just mean something erected by brick and mortar, rather they are an elaborate network of smart fences, sensors, camera, armed personal, radars even drones and satellite imaging.

Afghan trade transiting through Pakistani ports and borders should be taxed to pay for the border fence. Pakistan should annex illegal assets of Afghan citizens in Pakistan and auction them to raise funds.

Pakistan must sue Afghanistan in international courts for all damages caused by terrorism origination from groups hiding in Afghanistan and penalize Afghan government for its inability to control borders.


One such example is the 600KM long Saudi-Iraq border fence.

http://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/saudi-arabia/saudi-arabia-building-hi-tech-border-fence-1.1445112
the very foundation of your country is based on ideology these nomadic steppe savage brought in with themselves.
 
I think we need to build a wall from our own expenses and make strict visa policy for Afghan nationals with quota system of 100,000 visa per year.

The problem is most of the Pak-Afghan border area is for namesake as General Raheel said in Switzerland couple of weeks ago that one family have their lunch in Pakistan and dinner in Afghanistan and such tradition is developed in centuries and it is not easy to just build wall between 2 families and start visa process... but we have to find a solution in larger interest of both nations and building a wall with shared cost or afforded by Pakistan is the right way forward in my opinion
 
You must seek mental asylum very soon..Afghanistan is a good place...you can go live with your Afghani brothers in some cave...make sure take a lot of lube with you..they are only familiar with using spit..!
any insight about the freedom of Indian Occupied Kashmir?
 
I think we need to build a wall from our own expenses and make strict visa policy for Afghan nations with quota system of 100,000 visa per year.

The problem is most of the Pak-Afghan border area is for namesake as General Raheel said in Switzerland couple of weeks ago that one family have their lunch in Pakistan and dinner in Afghanistan and such tradition is developed in centuries and it is not easy to just build wall between 2 families and start visa process... but we have to find a solution in larger interest of both nations and building a wall with shared cost or afforded by Pakistan is the right way forward in my opinion

Such tradition exisit in many part of the world..hundreds of people work in Saudi and live in Bahrain, shuttling everyday. This is an economic opportunity rather than a burden. Sign visa pacts, build regulated border crossing and run express transit by bus or rail.


The problem is not lawful citizens making an innocent visit. Rather the resisting faction is concealing tons of illegal activities under these so called family visit. Currency smuggling, weapons, narcotics, you name it. And therefore they do not want any scrutiny over it.

the very foundation of your country is based on ideology these nomadic steppe savage brought in with themselves.

We are very much slaves of Arabia, Persia, Mongols, Afghan, Turks and god knows who not..no doubt about that!

why don't Pakistan Iran Turkmenistan Uzbekistan and Tajikistan all become stake holders of Afghanistan and deal with the problem because the tiny government in Kabul cannot do nothing so we should all stake claim. otherwise the Afghanistan problem isn't going away anytime soon and they cant find a solution themselves

Bomb it from every direction??
 
BTW people of Pakistan need to stand up against these afghans in our country illegally..

They should go back to afghanistan... they always speak ill about our country who came to help them against the all odds

if they do not like Pakistan , then they should have enough courage to go back where they belong...

some of the internet warriors from afghanistan here on PDF which is again Pakistani site, says alot of bad things ...

They are ahsaan faramosh people .. I have already asked 4 afghan on our building side in Pakistan to leave and do not return to our construction work.. i am going to hand over the details of these guys to police and other agencies to check their credentials so they can be sent back ASAP
 
For eternity, West-Asia has been exposed to invading Afghan hoards of savages attacking Indian sub-continent to satisfy their hunger for material wealth by loot and plunder. Passing through West-Asia they struck deep into mainland India, leaving behind a trail of destruction and river of blood.

Continuous plunder of trade convoys by hoards of tribal Afghan savages forced the British authorities to invade Afghanistan and actually divide it into two - the division line came to be known as Durand line. Pakistan as a successor state of British-India inherited this Durad line as the de-facto international border between Pakistan and Afghanistan.

Ever since partition of Indian subcontinent, Afghanistan has tried to undermine sovereignty of Pakistani state by disputing Durand line as an international border. It has attempted to influence North-Western region politics in and created nationalist sentiments in hope to annex it.

As Afghan-Soviet war unfolded, Pakistan became the largest host of fleeing Afghan refugees against all odds - for which Afghans will remain forever ungrateful. It has deeply undermined our socio-economic interests, left our demographics permanently scarred and gave us the menace of terrorism.

Once hosted as refugees, Afghan have attempted every illicit means to obtain Pakistani citizen and identification documents illegally and use them to commit crimes. Against all international rules and efforts of Pakistani state, they refuse to go back to their homeland. When deported forcefully, many infiltrate illegally into Pakistan again.

Unregistered commerce and smuggling business run by Afghans have cost local industry and treasury billions in undocumented losses. Hosting Afghan refugees has cost Pakistan billions of rupees in direct and indirect cost. Afghan introduced to Pakistan, the gun and heroin culture which has completely destroyed the youth.


So here is the plan...

Fence and mine the entire Pak-Afghan border...put Afghan refugees to work as low paid workers to compensate state, which has weathered billions of losses by hosting them....borders walls in modern times dont just mean something erected by brick and mortar, rather they are an elaborate network of smart fences, sensors, camera, armed personal, radars even drones and satellite imaging.

Afghan trade transiting through Pakistani ports and borders should be taxed to pay for the border fence. Pakistan should annex illegal assets of Afghan citizens in Pakistan and auction them to raise funds.

Pakistan must sue Afghanistan in international courts for all damages caused by terrorism origination from groups hiding in Afghanistan and penalize Afghan government for its inability to control borders.

:pakistan::pakistan::pakistan:

One such example is the 600KM long Saudi-Iraq border fence.

http://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/saudi-arabia/saudi-arabia-building-hi-tech-border-fence-1.1445112

I don't agree on many things with you, but his is just a gem.

the very foundation of your country is based on ideology these nomadic steppe savage brought in with themselves.

You are past tense now in Pakistan. Pack your bags and leave. We won't tolerate savages who kill our children.

Dude, you need help. Seriously. And fast. Any Afghan who rejects the Durrand Line is not a brother to me. Those who accept it, are fine and can stay on their side of that damn line. While those who worship foreigner invaders, are welcome to join the Harem of these foreign looters.

None of the people you mentioned came to spread Islam here, they came to fill their coffers and slaughter and enslave. We became Muslim due to Sufi saints, who's dargahs dot our beloved nation and who have been targeted by an ideology which was allowed to fester here through the Afghan terrorists.

Couldn't agree more on this. Well put.

your forefathers were Bhuddists.

Which specific region of Pakistan are you referring to? Because I can assure you that not all regions of Pakistan were inhabited by Buddhists. This is a general misconception spread by ignorant folks.

cute fantasy stories ...

When are you going to take in Afghans that you liberated? LOL Aren't you the same folks who defeated the Taliban, built schools and bridges? I'm sure your Afghan brethren can now pi$$ off and go back to their own land where honey flows like water.

BTW people of Pakistan need to stand up against these afghans in our country illegally..

They should go back to afghanistan... they always speak ill about our country who came to help them against the all odds

if they do not like Pakistan , then they should have enough courage to go back where they belong...

some of the internet warriors from afghanistan here on PDF which is again Pakistani site, says alot of bad things ...

They are ahsaan faramosh people .. I have already asked 4 afghan on our building side in Pakistan to leave and do not return to our construction work.. i am going to hand over the details of these guys to police and other agencies to check their credentials so they can be sent back ASAP

Don't worry they will now be expelled with force. We are going to kick them out and watch how the likes of HRW fume from a distance. I'm going to enjoy how they squeal. We have suffered enough. Time to settle the score.

Empty pot noise more..

Really? Is that why your best buddy HRW is throwing fits at Pakistan's expulsion of Afghans? LOL

Pakistan: Mass Forced Returns of Afghan Refugees

https://www.hrw.org/news/2017/02/13/pakistan-mass-forced-returns-afghan-refugees

Do something about it if you can. You haven't seen half of it yet.

We are going to make you squeal out loudly by throwing out Afghans and securing the border. Indian sponsored terror in Pakistan through the recruitment of Afghan refugees and infiltration at the border is coming to a halt.

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Well fencing and walls are great tool however what Pakistan really have to acomplish is the takeover
of Afghan Zone, Occupation and then integration of the land as Province of Pakistan

We can then introduce Legistalations and Law , and activate necessary FORCE to solve the Insurgency issue by going after the "Terrorist and their facilitators" inside the hotbed

Defence by means of Offence

Afghan Zone = Arid region , no law an order , heaven for RAW/Afghan Terrorist

Most of the Mountain Areas / Cities can be taken by ground operation in 7-12 days

After which we can target the training facilities or target warlords and make them submit

GROUND OFFENSIVE
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Most of the Mountain peaks after takeover can be patrolled by UAV which our forces can operate and helicopters

TIME FOR OFFENSIVE!!!
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Let's put these fvckers under tremendous pressure. Fun time is over.

The Wall isnt the final solution we need to do some real surgical strikes into afghan territory eliminate hostile elements (such as raw founded terrorist org) and create a militia wich can control Afghanistan

All of these wonderful suggestions should go hand in hand with a wall and expulsion of Afghans.
 
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I don't agree on many things with you, but his is just a gem.



You are past tense now in Pakistan. Pack your bags and leave. We won't tolerate savages who kill our children.



Couldn't agree more on this. Well put.



Which specific region of Pakistan are you referring to? Because I can assure you that not all regions of Pakistan were inhabited by Buddhists. This is a general misconception spread by ignorant folks.



When are you going to take in Afghans that you liberated? LOL Aren't you the same folks who defeated the Taliban, built schools and bridges? I'm sure your Afghan brethren can now pi$$ off and go back to their own land where honey flows like water.



Don't worry they will now be expelled with force. We are going to kick them out and watch how the likes of HRW fume from a distance. I'm going to enjoy how they squeal. We have suffered enough. Time to settle the score.



Really? Is that why your best buddy HRW is throwing fits at Pakistan's expulsion of Afghans? LOL

Pakistan: Mass Forced Returns of Afghan Refugees

https://www.hrw.org/news/2017/02/13/pakistan-mass-forced-returns-afghan-refugees

Do something about it if you can. You haven't seen half of it yet.

We are going to make you squeal out loudly by throwing out Afghans and securing the border. Indian sponsored terror in Pakistan through the recruitment of Afghan refugees and infiltration at the border is coming to a halt.



Let's put these fvckers under tremendous pressure. Fun time is over.



All of these wonderful suggestion should go hand in hand with a wall and expulsion of Afghans.

someone burning ..
 

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