Pak-Afghan Border : Lets build a wall and make Afghans pay for it..!

[Pakistani E]

RAW is tracking Indians having Pakistan friends on Facebook so for sure they are also tracking those on Pakistani forums..the traffic at Bharat Rakshak is terribly down and it seems to be an ISI conspiracy!

 

[Hamza913]

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Well fencing and walls are great tool however what Pakistan really have to acomplish is the takeover
of Afghan Zone, Occupation and then integration of the land as Province of Pakistan

We can then introduce Legistalations and Law , and activate necessary FORCE to solve the Insurgency issue by going after the "Terrorist and their facilitators" inside the hotbed

Defence by means of Offence

Afghan Zone = Arid region , no law an order , heaven for RAW/Afghan Terrorist

Most of the Mountain Areas / Cities can be taken by ground operation in 7-12 days

After which we can target the training facilities or target warlords and make them submit

GROUND OFFENSIVE
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Most of the Mountain peaks after takeover can be patrolled by UAV which our forces can operate and helicopters

TIME FOR OFFENSIVE!!!

More hassle then it's worth.

 

[khanz]

I am sorry but It's international border that is not in dispute (other than in dreams of afghan nationalists) and needs to be walled. Afghan legal immigrants who are not anti-Pakistan should be allowed to stay. Any country would deport illegal people and Pakistan has enough to deal with it needs to look after it's own 205 million population first. Besides according to many the war in Afghanistan has been won and it's secured while Pakistan is dangerous unstable place and cause of all terrorism in the world so why would they want to come there anyway.

 

[khanmubashir]

Do you know what did they come for? And what did they do with our people? There is Afghan DNA inside every Pakistani of your kind due to holistic treatment they accorded to your ancient great grand mothers. Perhaps that is the reason that Afghan fear is instilled into young mind in the name of religion by praising those invading figures holistically. In-fact so deep rooted is this fear that we have named our offensive weapons against these invaders...who does that? Do you see any French missile named Adolf? Or Russian weapons named Napoleon? While Afghans have used our country like a mensuration rag we have no courage to do anything against them..we gladly let them populate the entire country with heroin and gun rackets... dozens of terrorist plot have been orchestrated from Afghanistan causing loss of Pakistani lives and material yet we have no balls to strike Kabul...not even a stage a symbolic surgical strike with some precision artillery or cruise missile? You cant do that when those weapons are named after invaders from the very same land...

a big chunk of pak people have ancestors from afg region at that time there was no proper afg or pak or india adventurous kings invaded other lands to form big empires proper afg was formed bi ahmed shah abdali centuries after ghaznvi arab came in to india settled here formed qureshi and saeed blood lines people from current afghan lands as settlers came and formed durani saduzai and other tribes cursing afghan as a whole is like usa cursing irish who r big part of white american blood
current public hostilities bw our countries is due 2 political tensions bw our gov once anti pak and pro india gov falls peace returns and most likeli a pro pak gov in kabul will settle in these hostilites will also end as for invading afg is stupid idea we dont need to be present on ground we need to have our friends in gov learn from west this is best polic

For eternity, West-Asia has been exposed to invading Afghan hoards of savages attacking Indian sub-continent to satisfy their hunger for material wealth by loot and plunder. Passing through West-Asia they struck deep into mainland India, leaving behind a trail of destruction and river of blood.

Continuous plunder of trade convoys by hoards of tribal Afghan savages forced the British authorities to invade Afghanistan and actually divide it into two - the division line came to be known as Durand line. Pakistan as a successor state of British-India inherited this Durad line as the de-facto international border between Pakistan and Afghanistan.

Ever since partition of Indian subcontinent, Afghanistan has tried to undermine sovereignty of Pakistani state by disputing Durand line as an international border. It has attempted to influence North-Western region politics in and created nationalist sentiments in hope to annex it.

As Afghan-Soviet war unfolded, Pakistan became the largest host of fleeing Afghan refugees against all odds - for which Afghans will remain forever ungrateful. It has deeply undermined our socio-economic interests, left our demographics permanently scarred and gave us the menace of terrorism.

Once hosted as refugees, Afghan have attempted every illicit means to obtain Pakistani citizen and identification documents illegally and use them to commit crimes. Against all international rules and efforts of Pakistani state, they refuse to go back to their homeland. When deported forcefully, many infiltrate illegally into Pakistan again.

Unregistered commerce and smuggling business run by Afghans have cost local industry and treasury billions in undocumented losses. Hosting Afghan refugees has cost Pakistan billions of rupees in direct and indirect cost. Afghan introduced to Pakistan, the gun and heroin culture which has completely destroyed the youth.


So here is the plan...

Fence and mine the entire Pak-Afghan border...put Afghan refugees to work as low paid workers to compensate state, which has weathered billions of losses by hosting them....borders walls in modern times dont just mean something erected by brick and mortar, rather they are an elaborate network of smart fences, sensors, camera, armed personal, radars even drones and satellite imaging.

Afghan trade transiting through Pakistani ports and borders should be taxed to pay for the border fence. Pakistan should annex illegal assets of Afghan citizens in Pakistan and auction them to raise funds.

Pakistan must sue Afghanistan in international courts for all damages caused by terrorism origination from groups hiding in Afghanistan and penalize Afghan government for its inability to control borders.



One such example is the 600KM long Saudi-Iraq border fence.

http://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/saudi-arabia/saudi-arabia-building-hi-tech-border-fence-1.1445112

pak is making 1000km+ trench along afg border this would significantl reduce afg infiltration and we r securing soft areas but as cnn said a 30 feet trump wall would just create market for 31 feet ladder

 

[somebozo]

pak is making 1000km+ trench along afg border this would significantl reduce afg infiltration and we r securing soft areas but as cnn said a 30 feet trump wall would just create market for 31 feet ladder

CNN is being a simplistic NOOB!

Saudi–Iraq border - Wikipedia

Revealed: Saudi Arabia's 'Great Wall' to keep out Isil - Telegraph

The line consists of a multi-layered fence and ditch barrier wall. The border zone includes five layers of fencing with includes 78 monitoring watch towers, night-vision cameras, and radar cameras, eight command centres, 10 mobile surveillance vehicles, 32 rapid-response centres, and three rapid intervention squads.[4][5]

The barrier is sometimes referred to as the Great Wall of Saudi Arabia.[6] The works are done by Airbus Group, formerly EADS.

 

[khanmubashir]

CNN is being a simplistic NOOB!

Saudi–Iraq border - Wikipedia

Revealed: Saudi Arabia's 'Great Wall' to keep out Isil - Telegraph

The line consists of a multi-layered fence and ditch barrier wall. The border zone includes five layers of fencing with includes 78 monitoring watch towers, night-vision cameras, and radar cameras, eight command centres, 10 mobile surveillance vehicles, 32 rapid-response centres, and three rapid intervention squads.[4][5]

The barrier is sometimes referred to as the Great Wall of Saudi Arabia.[6] The works are done by Airbus Group, formerly EADS.

we cant spend 10s of billion$ like saudis we r securing border in our desi and low cost wa main thing is who is sitting in afg gov our friend or foe we need to create conditions for expulsion of 2nd kind from gov and we doing that

 

[somebozo]

we cant spend 10s of billion$ like saudis we r securing border in our desi and low cost wa main thing is who is sitting in afg gov our friend or foe we need to create conditions for expulsion of 2nd kind from gov and we doing that

Look at the economic opportunity for home grown industry..private sector can turn wonders if given a chance..and privatizing the border fencing can get us high tech under our means..With ingenious Pakistani brains and Chinese expertise on electronics, the potential in infinite...

 

[khanmubashir]

Look at the economic opportunity for home grown industry..private sector can turn wonders if given a chance..and privatizing the border fencing can get us high tech under our means..With ingenious Pakistani brains and Chinese expertise on electronics, the potential in infinite...

again saudi oil $ we r doing what we can to secure border most important is afg gov and ensuring fall of anti pak groups and implanting propak 1s

 

[shahbaz baig]

it is Possible to Block The Durand Line with Mine and military in Pakistan areas not disputed areas in order to stop all the outside inside terrorist activities across pak-afghan border. In this matter Pakistan dont need to take the American or Afghan Instruction... because Pakistan have right to block the Durand Line in his Areas not disputed Areas... i am just saying wall the durand line and mine the hotspots where militants are known to cross over Pak-Afghan border from outside or inside

wall the Pak-Afghan border with Mine and military in order to stop all the terrorist activities across Pak-Afghan border. and in order to stop the RAW involvement, in order to overcome on bad circumstances either internal or external. once you will cut the supply chain of the terrorist wings after walling the pak-afghan border then you can control inside terrorist otherwise they will keep on moving from one side to another side. and you will keep fighting about 100 years.. this is Really a Good idea i have ever seen.

 

[somebozo]

it is Possible to Block The Durand Line with Mine and military in Pakistan areas not disputed areas in order to stop all the outside inside terrorist activities across pak-afghan border. In this matter Pakistan dont need to take the American or Afghan Instruction... because Pakistan have right to block the Durand Line in his Areas not disputed Areas... i am just saying wall the durand line and mine the hotspots where militants are known to cross over Pak-Afghan border from outside or inside

wall the Pak-Afghan border with Mine and military in order to stop all the terrorist activities across Pak-Afghan border. and in order to stop the RAW involvement, in order to overcome on bad circumstances either internal or external. once you will cut the supply chain of the terrorist wings after walling the pak-afghan border then you can control inside terrorist otherwise they will keep on moving from one side to another side. and you will keep fighting about 100 years.. this is Really a Good idea i have ever seen.

this is automated defense shooting anything moving crossing the line...

Our local industry can easy take the challenge of producing something like this..

 

[django]

 

[sadia kayani]

the post is correct at some point , its important to set our focus on our people now,we are starving but we still wants them to stay here ... to do what ? they are not loyal or humble but fools.. playing in the hand of anti Muslim forces

 

[ibnarastoo]

the post is correct at some point , its important to set our focus on our people now,we are starving but we still wants them to stay here ... to do what ? they are not loyal or humble but fools.. playing in the hand of anti Muslim forces

All these troubles befell Muslims for the past decade because we viewed everyone with contempt (though we had many problems). We viewed the Nasrani with disdain (our own family members), we viewed the Yahud with dislike (though our family members), we viewed each other unkindly (though we were in the same company).

Hazrath Sulaiman RA says "pride comes before decline". We are a humble people so let us be humble and love the Afghan who is better than us in every way.

You can use nationalism to distance yourself from the East because they are different in every way. Yes, use populist notions (patriotism) to distance yourselves from the polytheist, from the idolater, from those who dislike what is fair, they prefer their own darkness and their own unloving ways. But why view the Afghan poorly ? The Afghan is a reflection of all that is fair, all that is beautiful. It is like saying, "We don't want to be part of Europe because they are not loyal or humble " ?!!

It is like saying "We don't want to immigrate/ally with the US/UK" because we have to look out for our people. By allying and learning from the West we will be helping our own people. By respecting, loving and understanding , helping the Afghan we will be helping our people, yes?

Prosperity is coming your way Pakistan - but you must maintain the friends you have (friends in the US/UK) and make just as lovely friends (Russia etc.). Avoid the company of those who need to improve themselves but do not view them with contempt for God/ Allah SWT loves the downtrodden (love even the Indians but do not emulate them or associate with them). And even if you view people with contempt may you be forgiven and rightly guided ...

 

[sadia kayani]

All these troubles befell Muslims for the past decade because we viewed everyone with contempt (though we had many problems). We viewed the Nasrani with disdain (our own family members), we viewed the Yahud with dislike (though our family members), we viewed each other unkindly (though we were in the same company).

Hazrath Sulaiman RA says "pride comes before decline". We are a humble people so let us be humble and love the Afghan who is better than us in every way.

You can use nationalism to distance yourself from the East because they are different in every way. Yes, use populist notions (patriotism) to distance yourselves from the polytheist, from the idolater, from those who dislike what is fair, they prefer their own darkness and their own unloving ways. But why view the Afghan poorly ? The Afghan is a reflection of all that is fair, all that is beautiful. It is like saying, "We don't want to be part of Europe because they are not loyal or humble " ?!!

It is like saying "We don't want to immigrate/ally with the US/UK" because we have to look out for our people. By allying and learning from the West we will be helping our own people. By respecting, loving and understanding , helping the Afghan we will be helping our people, yes?

Prosperity is coming your way Pakistan - but you must maintain the friends you have (friends in the US/UK) and make just as lovely friends (Russia etc.). Avoid the company of those who need to improve themselves but do not view them with contempt for God/ Allah SWT loves the downtrodden (love even the Indians but do not emulate them or associate with them). And even if you view people with contempt may you be forgiven and rightly guided ...

more than 3 decades we are humble we love them we did every thing we cud do to help then only for the sake of brotherhood but you see .. what did we get?? blood everywhere... they are still reading the notes of otheres and threatening us so ever if we love them... its necessary to set some rules ,( unfortunetely theres no foreign policy or we dont want to make one )i hav spent life with them ,theres no ideology left in them ,they are not those afghans anymore ...
yes.. we have issues of our own,we are going through some rough circumstances but it doesn't mean we dont want to do anything to be proud again.

It is like saying, "We don't want to be part of Europe because they are not loyal or humble " ?!!
actually when someone is being caring for you and feed your kids and you.. humbleness is required in return as no one is saint these days
we want them to be friends but do they want the same??

 

[Manidabest]

the best option is to divide afghanistan among its neighbours ...