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China Tests DF-5C with 10 MIRVs, A warhead that will make all BMD obsolete

Between 1000 to 3000 should be a correct estimation.
WwwwwOWzers!

@all the indians

So what is the drdo's response going to be to this? Never mind Pakistan's Ababeel missile with 3 warheads (that you think was a fake test anyways), for the sake of argument let's just assume that Pakistan and india are at peace and everything is hunky dory between Pakistan and you guys and your only animosity is with China. My question to you is that how is india planning on responding to this new threat of TEN warheads on a single missile? After all, 1 DF-5C missile = 10 major indian cities decimated, 2 DF-5C missiles = 20 major indian cities decimated, 3 DF-5C missiles means india is finished. And the indian bmd has been rendered ineffective while still in its embryonic stage and india's agni is incapable of carrying MIRVs and even if it did, by the time one agni is launched, the 30 DF-5C warheads will already be entering indian airspace. What will you do now?
 
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Between 1000 to 3000 should be a correct estimation.

WwwwwOWzers!

@all the indians

So what is the drdo's response going to be to this? Never mind Pakistan's Ababeel missile with 3 warheads (that you think was a fake test anyways), for the sake of argument let's just assume that Pakistan and india are at peace and everything is hunky dory between Pakistan and you guys and your only animosity is with China. My question to you is that how is india planning on responding to this new threat of TEN warheads on a single missile? After all, 1 DF-5C missile = 10 major indian cities decimated, 2 DF-5C missiles = 20 major indian cities decimated, 3 DF-5C missiles means india is finished. And the indian bmd has been rendered ineffective while still in its embryonic stage and india's agni is incapable of carrying MIRVs and even if it did, by the time one agni is launched, the 30 DF-5C warheads will already be entering indian airspace. What will you do now?

There is a good analysis about China's Thermonuclear Detterence.
https://defence.pk/threads/chinas-294-megatons-of-thermonuclear-deterrence.107079/page-27

Credit to @Martian2 for the Analysis.
 
I don't know why Indians are avoiding this thread may they have left the policy of fake tests and started considering things seriously.

You are correct. Since there are too many evidence for them to call this a fake test and this missile was originated in the 1980s, they have nothing comparable. So as this issue have zero bragging value for them, they avoid this thread.
 
You are correct. Since there are too many evidence for them to call this a fake test and this missile was originated in the 1980s, they have nothing comparable. So as this issue have zero bragging value for them, they avoid this thread.
Well any thing coming out of China is possible as USA it self admits that China is hacking into USA main frames and stealing Technology so I would doubt China not being able to do something like this but for Indians USA has validated this news so Indians would not argue on it simply, I think.
 
Well any thing coming out of China is possible as USA it self admits that China is hacking into USA main frames and stealing Technology so I would doubt China not being able to do something like this but for Indians USA has validated this news so Indians would not argue on it simply, I think.

Good point. If US states that China test something. No Indians would argue against it. If Pakistan performs a test and US agrees,I'm certain India would agree as well. So the key is that if US agrees, India will also.
 
Good point. If US states that China test something. No Indians would argue against it. If Pakistan performs a test and US agrees,I'm certain India would agree as well. So the key is that if US agrees, India will also.
Well Indians also agree to to every thing China test is also tested by Pakistan. So there is not much difference in the approach that Pakistan has equally advance technology as China. Because the time in which Pakistan tested it MIRV was the fastest development of MIRV in the world. No one knows who developed but the main thing is Pakistan has the technology.
 
Well Indians also agree to to every thing China test is also tested by Pakistan. So there is not much difference in the approach that Pakistan has equally advance technology as China. Because the time in which Pakistan tested it MIRV was the fastest development of MIRV in the world. No one knows who developed but the main thing is Pakistan has the technology.

It's possible China helped Pakistan. Just like US help Israel on lots of things. The thing is that unless there is proof, all guesses are just guesses. And you are right about acquiring the technology. India likes to brag about never copying any technology. The problem is that it's dumb to develop something the second time. Why not just copy a working system and improve from there. India might be saying that as it lacks capability to reverse engineering.
 
It's possible China helped Pakistan. Just like US help Israel on lots of things. The thing is that unless there is prove, all guesses is just guesses. And you are right about acquiring the technology. India like to brag about never copy any technology. The problem is that its dumb to develop something the second time. Why not just copy a working system and improve from there. India might be saying that as it lacks capability to reverse engineering.
The problem with India and Pakistan is that India is a big customer and no supplier would want to provide India with tech rather they would sell India weapons but Pakistan is a small customer and a bit poor so Pakistan will be supplied with tech to develop and threaten India and this will help to generate more profits from India for the weapons suppliers. It is economics which USA uses but in case of China India is a threat and we are help on national security bases. Regarding Ababeel missile it was developed by Pakistan as the rocket is Shaheen 2 used in this missile so this was not Chinese.
 
On January 31, 2017, reports say that China tested a DF-5C intercontinental ballistic missile equipped with 10 multiple independently targetable reentry vehicles (MIRVs), a significant increase from the three warheads previously deployed on the DF-5B. The test launched from the Taiyuan Space Launch Center in central China last month. The increased number of MIRVs may imply that China has more than the estimated 250 nuclear warheads previously believed. Increasing tensions in USA and China has pushed China on the path to increase it's strike capabilities.

AS US officials said "this test is a real threat and is a worrying development in the region and around the world. This implies China is increasing the number of it's warheads from 250."

The DF-5 has an estimated range of 7,500 to 9,300 miles. this will bring almost every country under China's threat and with 10 MIRVs this will be extremely hard for any one to shoot them out. USA is a rich country and has many ABM rockets and will shoot down all incoming warheads because you cannot take a risk of thinking that the incoming warhead might be a decoy you have to shoot them all down but this missile is a game changer for India as India is increasing its military capabilities in the region and is pushing for more BMD systems this type of missile can throw India back decades in it's defense program. India will require a massive budget which India cannot afford at the moment. Let's take the scenario this way in a war China fires three DF-5C missiles at India and India intercepts all 30 war heads good but here is the catch what will India do If China fires a 4th DF-5C missiles? India will be out of interceptors rockets, It will be a confirm kill 10 major cities in India taking Nuclear hit a large country like India destroyed with one rocket Millions dead at the hands of one missiles. This is a really bad development. There is no stopping it currently with the missile defense systems in hand.

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The new chief of the U.S. Strategic Command, Air Force Gen. John Hyten, said he is worried about China’s burgeoning nuclear weapons arsenal.

“I am fully aware that China continues to modernize its nuclear missile force and is striving for a secure second-strike capability,” Hyten told the Senate Armed Services Committee in September. “Although it continues to profess a ‘no first use’ doctrine, China is re-engineering its long-range ballistic missiles to carry multiple nuclear warheads and continues to develop and test hyper-glide vehicle technologies,” Hyten added.

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The missile was launched at Taiyuan Space Launch Center and flew to an impact range in a desert in western China. There were no more details about the matter, and Pentagon's new spokesperson Cmdr. Gary Ross told the newspaper that "the [US Defense Department] routinely monitors Chinese military developments and accounts for PLA capabilities in our defense plans".

Gertz wrote in his article that the test of a missile with 10 warheads forced the US to reevaluate China's nuclear arsenal. For a long time the US has estimated the number of China's strategic warheads to be at the low level of 250.

It is reported that according to a US-Russia agreement, the United States is slated to reduce its nuclear arsenal to 1,550 deployed warheads. A boost in the Chinese nuclear arsenal to 800 or 1,000 warheads likely would prompt the Pentagon to increase the U.S. nuclear warhead arsenal by taking weapons out of storage.

Rick Fisher, an analyst with the International Assessment and Strategy Center, said the multi-warhead missile test appears to be aimed at sending a signal to the new Trump administration.
look like America is getting scared as per Hyten
 
The liquid fuel can be pre-injected before the launch, and it can be launched at any time because the new liquid fuel can be preserved for a year.

You are right about the old DF-5, but not with the brand new DF-5B/C. The incoming Russian RS-28 Sarmat also works in that way.
no, that guy doesn't know what he'stalking about. China already upgraded the liquid fuel. already have multiple launch capabilities
 
no, that guy doesn't know what he'stalking about. China already upgraded the liquid fuel. already have multiple launch capabilities

The DF-5C is now the most powerful ICBM of all time, that's why China will keep for a long time. Also, its liquid fuel will constantly get upgraded.
 

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