Two events in history which put flourishing Islamic world into reverse gear

[MastanKhan]

How does this answer the ''question'' into why the Muslim world is in reverse gear or the solution to reverse the reverse?
What is the rule of law of this super state?

Hi,

The basics of success of any nation is the rule of law and the provision of justice---. All other forms of failures follow when these conditions are not met.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

How does this answer the ''question'' into why the Muslim world is in reverse gear or the solution to reverse the reverse?

The answer is simple. Have a good look at your country, Turkey. Is it in reverse gear? Is it doing better then India, Nigeria, Myanmar?

Then compare your country to other Muslim countries and identify the main differance and you will have your final answer.

 

[T-123456]

Hi,

The basics of success of any nation is the rule of law and the provision of justice---. All other forms of failures follow when these conditions are not met.

It depends on what kind of rule of law,thats what i wanted to hear,the law,which one?
Btw,he answered it well.

Have a good look at your country, Turkey. Is it in reverse gear?

Yes.

Is it doing better then India, Nigeria, Myanmar?

How better,in what way?

Then compare your country to other Muslim countries and identify the main differance and you will have your final answer.

To many choices,some do better some do worse and some are almost the same.

 

[MastanKhan]

It depends on what kind of rule of law,thats what i wanted to hear,the law,which one?
Btw,he answered it well.


Yes.

How better,in what way?

To many choices,some do better some do worse and some are almost the same.

Hi,

A law that hangs the murderers, smugglers, corrupt, kidnappers, blackmailers, terrorists, rapists, corrupt---.

The current mainland chinese law---would work good.

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

Source?

That is what was claimed in the OP...

Hi,

A law that hangs the murderers, smugglers, corrupt, kidnappers, blackmailers, terrorists, rapists, corrupt---.

The current mainland chinese law---would work good.

And puts proponents for basic human rights in jail or house arrest.
Same fate for Chinese that wants the law and or constitution to be followed.
Good model if you yearn for beeing ruled by dictators,

 

[MastanKhan]

That is what was claimed in the OP...



And puts proponents for basic human rights in jail or house arrest.
Same fate for Chinese that wants the law and or constitution to be followed.
Good model if you yearn for beeing ruled by dictators,

Cardinal,

Isn't that how the christian empire in europe have built their foundations on which you stand today---.

I mean to say---the streak of honesty and do good just did not happen like that---. Good old england---where a thief could be skinned alive---his skin filled with hay---and hung outside the city---.

Executions for petty theft---death sentences for petty thefts---burning on the stake for religious beliefs---.

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

Cardinal,

Isn't that how the christian empire in europe have built their foundations on which you stand today---.

I mean to say---the streak of honesty and do good just did not happen like that---. Good old england---where a thief could be skinned alive---his skin filled with hay---and hung outside the city---.

Executions for petty theft---death sentences for petty thefts---burning on the stake for religious beliefs---.

Europe has slowly evolved to what it is because of law and respect for private property.
That is the main streak although with many deviations.
Death penalty is not in use in most countries.

 

[cocomo]

How does this answer the ''question'' into why the Muslim world is in reverse gear or the solution to reverse the reverse?
What is the rule of law of this super state?

Bro turkish millet system was great, I am a great fan of that. Everyone gets judged by their own law, there are exception like if the plantif and defendant are of different belief such exceptions are negotiated before that faith group is incorporated into the state.

 

[MULUBJA]

If EU is united , Then what is the prob is Muslim countries get united nation . The basic prob is Muslim countries rulers are puppet of US or west , They knew that muslims rules more then half of the world more then 1400 centuries. If they come back again , they will lose their existence.

Islamism and capitalism isn;t in the same row. This is called by clash of ideology .

There is no problem but why even ARABS with same land , same ethnic group and language do not make a nation? If they cannot make than how the different people with different culture and ethnicity can make a single nation. Even why you guys separated from Pakistan? The things to be think over is that religion cannot be a base of integration or even brotherhood. That is why Islamic countries fight among themselves more than anybody else.

 

[T-123456]

Bro turkish millet system was great, I am a great fan of that. Everyone gets judged by their own law, there are exception like if the plantif and defendant are of different belief such exceptions are negotiated before that faith group is incorporated into the state.

Isnt it better to have one law for all?
Everyone equal?

 

[cocomo]

Isnt it better to have one law for all?
Everyone equal?

The problem with that is not everyone shares your (or the dominant) moral system. The most accepting society will be in which everyone lives by his/her conscience. One law for all doesn't sound very equal, if everyone is equal why does only the majority gets to decide what laws their society will be governed by.

 

[T-123456]

The problem with that is not everyone shares your (or the dominant) moral system. The most accepting society will be in which everyone lives by his/her conscience. One law for all doesn't sound very equal, if everyone is equal why does only the majority gets to decide what laws their society will be governed by.

It all depends on the governing system,if you have a system where everyone is treated equal,people can live by his/her conscience.
Take my country as an example,one law for all an it works.

 

[cocomo]

It all depends on the governing system,if you have a system where everyone is treated equal,people can live by his/her conscience.
Take my country as an example,one law for all an it works.

Minorities are not treated as equally as majority. Majority get to decide how the minority will be governed. What if the majority decides to ban Churches in a democratic country? Can a Christian minority do something about that?
Trump just got elected, if he discriminates against Muslims, what can American Muslims do? In a modern secular democracies rights are given according to the mood of the majority. In USA Muslims had great rights in the past but they might not in the future.

 

[T-123456]

Minorities are not treated as equally as majority. Majority get to decide how the minority will be governed. What if the majority decides to ban Churches in a democratic country? Can a Christian minority do something about that?
Trump just got elected, if he discriminates against Muslims, what can American Muslims do? In a modern secular democracies rights are given according to the mood of the majority. In USA Muslims had great rights in the past but they might not in the future.

There is a constitution,minorities have to be treated equally as the majority.
Trump cannot discriminate anyone ,let alone against Muslims,thats why there is a constitution.
The majority can change the constitution but for that it needs at least two thirds of parliament and no sane country would want to change it in a negative way for minorities.

 

[cocomo]

The majority can change the constitution

That reinforces my point, the chance of that happening legally does mean it could happen. Immutable rights are only given in religions where majority cannot overrule God. In a secular society if majority decides to subjugate minority there is nothing stopping them, nothing is immutable, Constitution was written by humans and it can be overruled by humans.