‘Weapons were brought to Lal Masjid from Afghanistan’

[HAIDER]

ISLAMABAD, July 13: Weapons smuggled to Balochistan from Afghanistan via the tough terrain of Koh-i-Sulaiman were delivered in fruit crates to Lal Masjid. Two arms merchants based in the Rajanpur and Faazilpur areas of southern Punjab had nexus with arms dealers on both sides of the Pakistan-Afghan border and they started supplying arms to the mosque-seminary complex more than two years ago, well-placed security sources told Dawn on Friday.

The arms were smuggled to Sabzi Mandi in Islamabad in trucks carrying fruits and vegetables. The arms, mostly AK-47 rifles or Kalashnikov and automatic pistols, were delivered to the complex in crates.

The process had taken months, the sources said. And security agencies knew at least a year ago about the stockpiling of arms inside the mosque but could not take any action, they said.

It could not be confirmed from the sources whether heavy weapons like rocket launchers which the government showed to media people during their post-operation visit to the mosque on Thursday, had also been provided by the same arms dealers or if such arms had been procured by the mosque administration at all.

The sources believed that two arms dealers from Rajanpur — Ghulam Qadir and Farooq Usmani — had developed links with the Lal Masjid administration after the US attack on Afghanistan in 2001. They said they also had information about the mosque administration’s links with another well-known arms smuggler from Balochistan, Alla Lashari.

The mosque administration had enough resources to purchase such weapons, they said.

The sources said it was not known if the Rajanpur-based arms smugglers had any soft corner for the militants, but they were certainly against peace efforts in the neighbouring Afghanistan – a haven for arms and drug smugglers.

The sources said the Koh-i-Sulaiman route had fast replaced traditional routes of arms smuggling into tribal areas, apparently because of lower transportation charges and being relatively safe. They said weapons were normally smuggled on mules and camels to Balochistan at considerably low cost. The weapons were later smuggled to Punjab and Sindh, they said.

They said a Kalashnikov cost from Rs20,000 to Rs35,000, which included transportation charges. A pistol cost Rs5,000 to Rs7,000.

During the Afghan war and the Taliban reign, Peshawar was the main centre of weapons trade, but smuggling was more concentrated in the tribal areas.
http://dawn.com/2007/07/14/nat1.htm

 

[Cheetah786]

china recently executed a person that was in charge of food safety.and was taking bribes to look the other way.i bet ya a million dollars next one coming up will never do that as the punishment is your life and a badge of honor for the family behind.

until this isnt going to be done in pakistan these kinds of things will be a norm.

 

[Adux]

What about Tax evasion...lol Cheetah

 

[Cheetah786]

What about Tax evasion...lol Cheetah

I don't no if u notice or not but there is a thread on here about Rich's Pakistanis or some thing like that.i read the answers and just laugh.reason being the real rich families who are not million air but bit higher pay absolutely no tax.there money is never ever declared there business are not taxed at any level.thats why i said before i can double the tax revenue of government of pakistan with in a month.
Till the government of pakistan becomes serious tax evasion or other theft will not go away.would there be a another RED_mosque.simple answer NO.cause some thing was done about it.

 

[Adux]

Dude,

IT WAS A JOKE!!!!!

You being a businessman and Tax is our greatest enemy...lol

 

[Adux]

Identity of Pakistan is being diluted for a non-exsitent ummah, which would have further impact on your country,

 

[Keysersoze]

I don't no if u notice or not but there is a thread on here about Rich's Pakistanis or some thing like that.i read the answers and just laugh.reason being the real rich families who are not million air but bit higher pay absolutely no tax.there money is never ever declared there business are not taxed at any level.thats why i said before i can double the tax revenue of government of pakistan with in a month.
Till the government of pakistan becomes serious tax evasion or other theft will not go away.would there be a another RED_mosque.simple answer NO.cause some thing was done about it.

Hate to burst your bubbles guys, but the issue of tax evasion by the rich is a issue everywhere...

 

[BATMAN]

They said a Kalashnikov cost from Rs20,000 to Rs35,000, which included transportation charges. A pistol cost Rs5,000 to Rs7,000.

These seems to me subsidized prices, considering all weopans in Afghanistan are imported.

 

[Cheetah786]

These seems to me subsidized prices, considering all weopans in Afghanistan are imported.

depending on which one you buy ones smuggled in from Russia used to cost twice as much as the ones made in barra markets.

 

[dabong1]

KARACHI - Following the military storming of the Lal Masjid (Red Mosque) in Islamabad, considered a hotbed for support of the Taliban and al-Qaeda, US President George W Bush has praised Pakistani President General Pervez Musharraf's role in checking extremism.

"Musharraf is a strong ally in the war against these extremists. I like him and I appreciate him," Bush said.

But while such praise from Musharraf's international allies is to be expected (see Pakistan's iron fist is to the US's liking, Asia



Times Online, July 11), within the country not everyone is convinced the government did the right thing.

"Whether they were security forces personnel or Lal Masjid militants, both were Muslims and both were martyrs," said Maulana Hanif Jalandari, the secretary general of the Federal Board of Islamic Seminaries, during a television debate. Jalandari was part of the negotiating team that failed to prevent the troops from being sent into the mosque after their bid to grant the occupants a safe passage out was rejected.

At least 60 people died in fighting after the troops went in on Tuesday, according to military reports, while about the same number of women and children who had been held hostage were rescued. On Wednesday morning there was still sporadic fighting in a seminary adjacent to the mosque.

The deputy chief cleric of Lal Masjid, Abdul Rasheed Ghazi, was among the dead, apparently caught in crossfire. The chief cleric, Ghazi's brother, Maulana Abdul Aziz, was earlier apprehended outside the mosque. He was dressed in a woman's burqa and is widely believed to have been tricked by intelligence agencies into leaving the mosque, ostensibly for negotiations.

During the debate on television, which also included Shah Abdul Aziz, a member of the National Assembly from the Muttahida Majlis-e-Amal, a six-party religious alliance, and Minister of Religious Affairs Ejaz ul-Haq, passions ran high and tears flowed. Both men were a part of the unsuccessful negotiating team.

"We did not want this operation to happen. Till our last we aimed to save lives. It is you who prompted Ghazi on the phone to be steadfast and not to lay down his weapons," ul-Haq accused Aziz. Aziz responded by calling ul-Haq and Musharraf the "biggest hypocrites", but he did admit that he had told Ghazi not to accept any humiliating terms of surrender.

Soon after the military operation began on Tuesday, Ghazi spoke to the media for the last time. "The room is full of smoke and I am having difficulty in talking. I appeal to the nation to stand up against this system of exploitation and work for an Islamic system of life ... the government blames us for using heavy weapons. I ask the media to come and question where those weapons are, and if we are using such weapons, where is the damage caused by such arms? We have only 14 AK-47 guns, most of them are licensed.

"I know my martyrdom is certain and I tell you that the government was never sincere in talking to us. After every sentence [while negotiating] they threatened us. They don't want talks. They just want to break us and humiliate us, so we prefer death.

"There were religious and political leaders who did not play any [positive] role and instead rang me only to try to terrify us with the wrath of the government and ask us to surrender. God will make them accountable on the day of judgment. I thank my friends in the media with whom I have spent a lot of good times and who have passed on my message," Ghazi's message concluded.

The 43-year-old Ghazi enjoyed widespread popularity in Pakistan, although he was not a mullah - he had a master's degree in international affairs from Quaid-i-Azam University in Islamabad, as well as a master's in political science. He worked as an assistant director in the United Nations Children's Fund but after the murder of his father in 1998 he chose to become deputy prayer leader at the mosque. His father, Abdullah Aziz, founded the Red Mosque and his death had a profound effect on both brothers. Ghazi had fought briefly against the Soviets in Afghanistan in the 1980s.

In conversations with Pakistani militants over the years this correspondent frequently heard words to the effect that they never had the chance to see Osama bin Laden, his deputy Ayman al-Zawahiri or Taliban leader Mullah Omar, but they did have the chance to meet Ghazi.

The Pakistani media interviewed a number of the girls who were released from the mosque and the neighboring seminary, and many of them said that they regretted not having been able to become martyrs alongside their teacher, Ghazi.

Ghazi was certainly more restrained than his brother Aziz - even ul-Haq termed him a moderate - and Aziz is blamed for most of the mosque's hardline image.

Charges and counter-charges
Musharraf prepared the background for the raid by getting ul-Haq to inform the media that the government had information that several internationally wanted terrorists were holed up inside the Lal Masjid complex, which includes seminaries for male and female Islamic scholars, writes Zofeen Ebrahim of Inter Press Service.

"Nine suspected terrorists, said to be far more dangerous and harmful than al-Qaeda and Taliban operatives, were hiding inside the mosque compound," ul-Haq said at a Sunday press conference, though he refused to reveal their identities.

According to ul-Haq, the "high value terrorists" were in control of the mosque and not the chief cleric, who, he claimed, was being held hostage along with women and children.

Trouble began brewing at Lal Masjid early this year when its affiliated seminary for women, Jamia Hafsa, occupied a children's library demanding reconstruction of six mosques that had been demolished because they stood on encroached land. They further demanded strict enforcement of sharia law, and kidnapped an alleged brothel owner in a bid to chastise her.

By early April, the mosque had set up a sharia court and Aziz announced that any attempt to close it down would be avenged by thousands of suicide attacks.

"Moral squads" of girls and boys from the seminary were then allowed to rampage through the streets to "prevent vices and promote virtue", following the example of the Taliban in Afghanistan.

Things came to a head when nine Chinese citizens, six of them women working in a massage parlour, were abducted last month. They were released a day later after diplomatic intervention.

As the Lal Masjid standoff began to take new twists and turns with each passing day, many critics viewed it as a stage-managed affair.

"There is a pervasive feeling in Islamabad that the chief cleric and his brother played into the hands of intelligence agencies. The tragedy is that whoever planned it failed to see that so many lives would be lost, and the people living in the G-6 area in Islamabad would become prisoners in their own homes," an Islamabad-based journalist said, requesting anonymity.

The timing of the military operation itself also raises doubts about the real motives of Pakistan's military government.

According to Ishtiaq Ali Mehkri, news editor at Geo TV, the Lal Masjid standoff was a "masterpiece of intelligence agencies" and an "eyewash" to deflect attention from issues of national importance, especially the Supreme Court hearing of the petition of Iftikhar Mohammad Chaudhry, whom Musharraf summarily suspended as chief justice.

Mekhri's views were endorsed by Hamid Mir, senior political analyst at the same TV channel. "Musharraf wanted to diffuse the multi-parties conference in London [a meeting of dozens of Pakistani politicians]. Before that he was using Lal Mosque to distract [from] the judicial crisis."

According to Mir, Chaudhry Shujaat Hussain, head of the ruling Pakistan Muslim League, who was sent to negotiate with the mosque administration, and who was about to resolve the issue in April, was "asked by someone very important to delay it".

However, Mehkri believes there could be a longer-term scheme on the part of the Musharraf government in all this. "This could be a motive to seek US blessings for President Musharraf to remain in uniform."

In a statement the chairman of the Communist Party of Pakistan, Jameel Ahmad Malik, said: "The religious fundamentalist forces in Pakistan are the brainchild of the ISI [Inter Services Intelligence], the military intelligences and American imperialism."

The reference was to Pakistan-based mujahideen or Islamist militants who successfully fought the Soviets in Afghanistan through the 1980s with support from Washington.

After the Soviet army withdrew from Afghanistan in 1989, Pakistan is also known to have diverted the mujahideen to Kashmir to help with its protracted dispute with India over possession of the Muslim-majority territory of Kashmir.

Opposition parties in Pakistan have been accusing Musharraf of secretly encouraging Islamist radicalism to counter to growing demands by secular political groups for restoration of the democratic process and the calling of elections.

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/IG12Df02.html

 

[Cheetah786]

Dude,

IT WAS A JOKE!!!!!

You being a businessman and Tax is our greatest enemy...lol

Adux show me 1 businessman that will take tax as a joke.it gives me nightmares.i don't find that word funny.

 

[Always Neutral]

But what were authorities doing when the arms were being smuggled in ? After all Islamabad is the capital of Pakistan. Something smells dirty !

Regards