You have to look in Lloyd's Register South Asia. That has updated info.
http://www.lr.org/en/_images/213-47918_new_construction_sa_2014_web.pdf
Oh I know there will definitely be material out there. But I am waiting for a link from Asad saying Bangladesh is "the" new shipbuilding hub in Asia-Pac region after "Vietnam". As though no other countries in Asia offer any advantages over Bangladesh. It is a complicated matrix of competitive advantages from country to country, no country has absolute advantage among the smaller shipbuilding nations trying to get to the long term scale of the SoKo/Japan/China Titans.
This lloyds report is simply a listing of the shipyards present in their definition of South Asia (which seems to include SEA too). In depth analysis of the short term and long term performance of these countries in the ship-building industry is of course something much more nuanced and subjective....it depends on how you look at it.
In fact replace Bangaldesh with India in Asad statement and you get his quote from the lloyd report:
In addition to International entrants, the South Asia area has seen a significant number of domestic public and private sector enterprises establish shipbuilding centres. Nowhere more so than in Vietnam and India. For the latter, clear optimism now exists that under the new regime, bureaucracy and red-tape which had previously stifled the industry will reduce, leading to a renewed drive as India aims to grow its global shipbuilding market share from 1% to 5% by 2020.
I mean can the contrast to what he is claiming be any more clearer?
Lot of the new-build design work is also done locally by independent firms with local naval architects - which is (again) much more economical than doing this in (say) Singapore or the Netherlands. I'd say Bangladesh has an abundance of Marine design houses compared to the size of local shipbuilding so we are (for the short term at least) well-prepared for Standards based shipbuilding (GL, RINA, LLoyds etc.). I am really, really tired of proving to some Indians (not you) that local industrial standards are at least at par with India, if not a bit better (because we built our yards more recently). What logic dictates that it should not be?
I am confident Bangladesh will offer its unique set of advantages. Just like India in the coming years as well. We will have to wait and see how this unfolds without giving emotionally biased statements like Asad is doing.
Our defense budgets or industry intent might not dictate that we build Mini Aircraft Carriers or Nuclear Subs (niche items), but shipbuilding standards are the same across the world, and certainly the same across Bangladesh and India. Prepare to be bored....
That Chowgule Yard in Goa someone posted, yes that is the size of most of our more major yards except a few larger ones (single yard with covered halls to build sub-assemblies). The difference is that,
1. Chowgule built their yard before or around independence (1920's to 1947), we did this in the 1980's or 1990's. You have a 40-60 year headstart (which really doesn't mean a whole lot). Advantage India.
2. Chowgule built their industry based on License Raj and subsidies and supplying local needs - just like the Bajaj, Tata and Birla families (among others). All hanging off of the cow-udder of Nehruvian socialism. Even today (2000's), Indian Govt. provides subsidies to the sick Indian shipbuilding sector to survive, whereas Bangladesh yards are surviving (and thriving) on export-based builds without help (some would say step-motherly treatment) from the Hasina Govt. (at the behest of Indian majors trying to kill our industry). Advantage Bangladesh.
3. Because of Govt. Subsidies and huge local demand for blue water shipping, India was able to build larger yards (Pipavav, Cochin, Hindustan, L&T & Bharati), which we could not. However - Bangladesh will always lose when compared to a large country like India (the commercial and defense budgets are often ten or more times larger).
India does not provide subsidies currently to Shipbuilding, and hasnt for about 8 years or so now (most of them lapsed in 2007 and were not renewed by UPA-II). This prompted a big loss of CAPEX momentum that the shipbuilders were accruing....their finances were left in a precarious situation. Thats why there is talk now of re-introducing subsidies from the new administration. Definitely it makes more sense than ploughing largesse to rich farmers in the form of fertilizer subsidy. This is the same sort of support that all the major shipbuilding nations of the world today gave their industry during its nascent and transitional era....so India has to pick up from where it left off those years back and this time persist to meet the long term objective.....so that genuine economies of scale are achieved in 10 - 20 years time.
We have to remember that the subsidies play a big role in offsetting the much higher interest rates of loans within India compared to say China and South Korea. This is instrumental in leveling the playing field so that India's cheaper labour is even allowed to become an advantage without the CAPEX costs being insurmountable.
Just like RMG, Bangladesh is playing it smart by targetting the shipbuilding sector at the smaller sizes....I hope India in the coming years targets this low-hanging fruit more as well. We have a bad habit of focusing only for the big prestige sized production of goods....when our population just needs raw employment in something more accessible.
What he meant is that RMG lower end is already overtaken by Bangladesh and Chinese RMG higher end is on the way of being sequestered. Vietnam overtakes us in dollar value (still) once in a blue moon, but volume-wise we are almost always at the top end. There is currently little alternative to make garments anywhere else (even with Euro GSP facilities). Costs are too high in China and even Vietnam while Bangladesh has unlimited labor-supply and skill-base for this. Factories are humming at three shifts every day. Yet Bangladesh now boasts the most well-inspected and safest workplaces in the RMG industry worldwide because of the Rana Plaza fiasco.
If I were exporting garments to developed markets and I wanted to source garments, Bangladesh is it. There are four or more flights every day between Kunming, Guangzhou and Dhaka and this is supposed to triple in another two months. My airline buddies tell me that the majority of these people are Chinese RMG business people trying to transfer manufacturing....
What are the dollar values of the respective industries and sectors (i.e high end, low end RMG) between China, India, Vietnam, Bangladesh and any others? I am getting multiple different numbers depending on the source and how they classify it (and some are also using outdated data).
In addition to what I posted earlier - India's record in the last 40 years in shipbuilding has been (to put it mildly), less than spectacular. 40 years ago, Korean shipbuilding industry was in the same boat (literally) as Indian shipbuilding was.
Record since independence has been shabby in all industries. Don't compare us with South Korea which understood the value of an early mass education drive, training and industrial nurturing and selective protection.They were an organised well managed country. Hindsight is 20/20, we got the situation we did, they got theirs. Its time to look forward to making the best with what we have and learn and implement the successful practices of other countries and making some novelties of our own along the way hopefully.
I mean where has Pakistan emerged either seeing how they got independence same time as us and were supposedly better managed, better educated and better everything than us in the 50s and 60s...and even 70s and 80s according to some?
South Asia as a whole has to move on from its failure in the cold war economically (given the potential)....There are no glowing report cards here from anyone.
What is Bangladesh total Gross tonnage in ship production now anyways?
40 years later some facts -
- We have China and Korea sharing 80% of the Compensated Gross Tonnage in the world.
- India's share in the global shipbuilding industry is around the 2% range (similar to Vietnam).
- Indian shipbuilding is dominated by large inefficient govt. enterprises who are non-competitive internationally.
- Even India's own shipping companies place orders for large AfraMax and PanaMax tankers and bulk carriers with East Asian Yards.
- ABG shipyard (largest private shipyard in India located in Mumbai) has built 35 ships since 1988, whereas an equivalent publicly owned shipyard in India built 5 to 6 ships during the same period. (link)
- Without govt. subsidies (ended in 2009) - Indian commercial shipbuilding continues to wither
- Indian shipping companies are now placing orders in Bangladeshi yards for smaller MPC's (8000DWT). This is good because we will become more familiar with Indian shipping norms.
1. Yep, these are the sheer DWT leaders. Maybe by 2050 India has a chance to compete in the same category...unless it has made massive strides elsewhere. We will have to see.
2. 2% seems on the high side, Lloyds quoted 1%.
3. I don't agree. Some are not competitive, some definitely are. The ones that are, are the ones that are growing still. The others will need a major overhaul of financing and propping up with strategic investment over the next decade....the same thing that any large shipbuilding country did at similar stage to surpass/catch up with the big guys in various areas. This is where the reducing overall fiscal burden in India, "skilling" campaign and focus on expanding key industries by the new administration will come into play. Let us see how the shipbuilding industry is propelled by them rather than constantly look at the UPA debacle that is still manifesting itself in various ways today. For that we will have to wait for one term to finish. Modi has already approached Hyundai during his SoKo visit to get things rolling in this regard with
4. No country, not even China builds all the ships that it uses 100%. Maybe South Korea we can claim this. It is only natural with the end of the license raj that our companies should buy the most bang for the buck. Indian shipbuilding industry in the mean time must develop so it can address this demand as well in the long run. Theres plenty of time and resources available, what is required is foresight, planning and correct implementation by both govt policies and private shipyards working together.
5. And hence the inherent efficiency of private shipyards should be encouraged in the sector and appropriate support given to them along with privatising and merging the PSU shipyards. If anything it shows the way forward, one or two PSUs can be kept for developing defence technologies and other tech in a sort of DRDO fashion...but commercial production should be done by private players with suitable protection afforded by the govt while they grow in capacity to the next rung of shipbuilding.
6. A lot were affected by the ending of subsidies sure, but also from the global recession that kicked in at the same time. However new companies came in to fill the retreating void of others...and the global scenario is improving along with domestic policies...
But things are picking up now:
India's shipyards – on the rise? - Ship Technology
Shipbuilding Top Priority for India: PM Modi to Hyundai Heavy Industries Chairman
India To Limit Ship Buys to Domestic Yards
Hyundai Keen on LNG Shipbuilding in India -The New Indian Express
I see a lot of comments here about how a 32000 DWT ship is better or more 'glorious' to build than an 8000 DWT ship. and more complicated to build. It is really - not. Ask any marine engineer.
If such responses are directed towards Asad, I wouldnt take heed. They are simply countering his silly notion that Indian shipbuilding is of bad quality and there are 0 exports because of it.
