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President Obama left message on Humans of New York for the Iranian kid

lolzzz after wars and all this bloodshed :lol:
you missing the point!

Never Trust a Politician...
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There is no need for a trust. A beautiful gesture is a beautiful gesture. You see it as is. By the way he is a politician which is done with his term in short time. He is doing what he believes is right and has been consistent through his terms. I like his mentality more than our OCD leader.
 
you missing the point!

By the way he is a politician which is done with his term in short time. He is doing what he believes is right and has been consistent through his terms. I like his mentality more than our OCD leader.



And in his short term , He left many countries in flames .
Syria , iraq , libya ,yemen and etc and after that He start bombing them from above .He financed many terrorist groups in the name of freedom

Then sanctioned Iran for having peaceful nuclear program

Now after all of his adventure in middle east , see who is fighting alone with these scums of the earth (isis)?
 
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I don't like Obama but you are right, he is better than Stephan Harper.
He is of different class than Stephan Harper and we will change him soon, problem is no one is good to choose from! From OCD leader take what you interpret! I always enjoy swering at the guy whenever I can. The guy has illusion of the the world around him and see things very differently than a normal human being!
 
He is of different class than Stephan Harper and we will change him soon, problem is no one is good to choose from! From OCD leader take what you interpret! I always enjoy swering at the guy whenever I can. The guy has illusion of the the world around him and see things very differently than a normal human being!

It is a strange time we live in when Canadian leader has become more right-wing than USA and UK!!
 
It is a strange time we live in when Canadian leader has become more right-wing than USA and UK!!
Strange indeed. Usually Canadian politicians were known to hold the middle. Their actions usually were defendable but now it is not. There is no justification for Israel policy, Iran policy and some of the economical and environment policies these days. For the first time Tories lost in Alberta and it shows that Canadians are realizing what is happening but this nation moves very slowly and is fearful of any aggressive response even to their politicians. I think their action towards Iran is some part our fault. After Zahra Kazemi case they had a lot of momentum against Iran. If government at the time and Mortazavi in particular were honest about it they could have defused the situation and blame it on individuals than the regime itself and not fuel the anti Iranian movement which is triumphing now.

As much as I despise the regime mentality whatever is the best for Iranians I support all the time. Time will change the rest gradually, meanwhile Iranian people should prosper and have the best.Times are such that nothing remains unknown for long and educated population usually choose the best on average in long term. Till they achieve the best they should have the best and be educated the best.

Same happened to Tories, unlike even 5 years ago what they do and did didn't remain behind closed doors and people debated it everywhere, resulting in their first defeat in 40 years in Alberta and hopefully next in the federal elections.

And in his short term , He left many countries in flames .
Syria , iraq , libya ,yemen and etc and after that He start bombing them from above .He financed many terrorist groups in the name of freedom

Then sanctioned Iran for having peaceful nuclear program

Now after all of his adventure in middle east , see who is fighting alone with these scums of the earth (isis)?
Obama or our so called OCD leaders?
Without him in office you would have more flames. It was him that stopped the Hawks in washington to do more damage and he highlighted it in his speech for the armed forces on new Obama doctrine.

His methodology for sanctions which was brilliantly put in place was a double edged knife. He knew the Mullahs in the regime are pragmatic and self preserving bunch. When in danger they choose the path to survival. His think thanks and analysis of Iran response to 598 and previous responses was a proof for it. meanwhile, if one wants to contain Hawks peacefully all tools for rejecting a peaceful solutions should be blocked. By calculated sanctions he now can say all had been done for containment and now this is the best ... this way winning the ultimate prize of the deal of the century. USA under his partial command didn't intend to leave sanctions for ever but to engage Iran and this had been said since 2007 and election campaign. I believe he believed in what he said and he proved it. It wa smocked at the time and now proven worthy.

His work on middle east and Arab spring was questionable but considering the forces on the ground it is understandable. May be he could have had different stance in Egypt but it was more convoluted than that. (Turkey, Egypt, Qatar and the brotherhood) and (SA, UAE and the Hawks) all were equations were meddling on one side would have ruined his doctrine and he was not prepared for the consequences. He had bigger fish to fry than ME at the time. In Washington policies you need to choose. He chose to resolve Health care, Iran and Cuba he gave Ukraine to Hawks to be happy and let Putin handle them. He played see-saw with ME and tried to preserve the balance he needed for the Iran deal. A contained Ordoghan and Salman was his best achievement. He needed the balance so he stopped further intervention in Syria. Without a balance in ME a deal was not possible and after him no one and nothing except war could have opened the knot. So we should be happy on how he resolved the danger over Iran. He did it because he believed on humanity and he is a scholarly politician. He is something like Ron Paul in democratic establishment.

Our leaders by the way are different. Some uneducated but see the world pragmatically like Rafsanjani but tangled in their string of corrupt relationships. Some have stuck in their revolutionary days and have OCD like Khamenei and see Iran and the world form their black and white glasses and some are educated with what world needs now like Rouhani type. Meanwhile the moderate forces are outdated and behind in ideology and doctrine to lead. For the prosperity of the nation we need to support the Rouhani type and you see now once in a while when he speaks his views are vetoed by the OCD type. This battle of views is what is needed for the populations to think and welcomed. Rouhani as a pragmatic one who knows the leader will keep it at minimal so he can push his agenda but the battle has only one way and that is to escalate and show better clarification between the OCD's and normalities in Iran.
 
Our leaders by the way are different. Some uneducated but see the world pragmatically like Rafsanjani but tangled in their string of corrupt relationships. Some have stuck in their revolutionary days and have OCD like Khamenei and see Iran and the world form their black and white glasses and some are educated with what world needs now like Rouhani type. Meanwhile the moderate forces are outdated and behind in ideology and doctrine to lead. For the prosperity of the nation we need to support the Rouhani type and you see now once in a while when he speaks his views are vetoed by the OCD type. This battle of views is what is needed for the populations to think and welcomed. Rouhani as a pragmatic one who knows the leader will keep it at minimal so he can push his agenda but the battle has only one way and that is to escalate and show better clarification between the OCD's and normalities in Iran.

Syavash, you need to understand that we all view Iran differently. For me, Khamenei is extremely pragmatic and diplomatic. He has managed different ideologies in Iran for almost three decades now. It's much harder than it looks.

To someone like me, I'm very much against Rohani. The reformists have proven again and again that the Iran they envision is not one that can be self-sufficient. 2.5 years of his term has passed and nothing LOCAL has been done.

Anyway, thisnis off topic.
 
Syavash, you need to understand that we all view Iran differently. For me, Khamenei is extremely pragmatic and diplomatic. He has managed different ideologies in Iran for almost three decades now. It's much harder than it looks.

To someone like me, I'm very much against Rohani. The reformists have proven again and again that the Iran they envision is not one that can be self-sufficient. 2.5 years of his term has passed and nothing LOCAL has been done.

Anyway, thisnis off topic.
I understand Madali and appreciate your response. May be I should tone down against it directly not to upset those who like the guy and respect him, out of respect for user views and anyway as a human being it is not good direct attacks to someone. I will try to be objective. It comes from the anger it mainly built after 2009 and once in a while erupts after each speech I find not favorable.

This difference of opinion is exactly what is needed. For me it is the opposite but I respect other people views. About Rouhani, you may know I do not trust him entirely. Anyway an Iran that I envision is ruled by types like him but not necessarily from the class he has risen from although if it happens democratically it is welcomed.

In respect to achievement, I think we should put other given candidates in perspective and see whom could achieve anything better given the circumstances. In my opinion he has done pretty well so far but the entire nation is ill economically. I hope both the conservatives and the moderates consider focus on economy a priority as the leaders of both factions have insisted on. On the list may be Ghalibaf could have done something but I doubt he could have used the intellectuals as effective as Rouhani did. I see Rouhani's approach methodological and in my opinion that will benefit Iran.

Khamenei is extremely pragmatic and diplomatic. He has managed different ideologies in Iran for almost three decades now. It's much harder than it looks.

That is true what you said. He has managed that. I believe he has his own agenda and for his power he had to do so. I also believe if the system was set differently such forces would have been managed by people in parties associated to them automatically. There is a fundamental difference on how the system should be here I suppose. Meanwhile I also think such management have given rise to corrupt powers which is hard to contain in future. That by itslef is something that I blame him for it mostly.
 
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Every one is missing the point here.

This is not about a comment or trust or inherent goodness or any such thing. After decades of de-humanizing Iran and Iranians and all the propaganda against Iran and shooting down Iranian Airliner and supporting Saddam and overthrowing a democratic government in Iran, US has started to re-think its policy vis-a-vis Iran. Not because, they love Iran, but because all their other options in the region have been exhausted. The only other option left in the region is Isis and its enablers.

Now they need to humanize Iran and Iranians in order to sell their new strategic vision to their gullible public who till two months ago were being fed propaganda convincing them of evilness of Iran and Iranians. After all they are a democracy and public opinion matters in these lands. Now a new narrative is being built to explain Iran to Western public. And these things are just part of this new narrative.
 
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