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(Reuters) - Neurosurgeon Tetsuya Goto had just begun testing a robot to perform brain surgery when he discovered Japan was moving to tighten regulations that would shut down his seven-year project.

Over the next dozen years he watched in frustration as the da Vinci, a rival endoscopic robot that U.S. regulators had already approved, became a commercial success while his and other Japanese prototypes languished in laboratories.

Japan, with the world's largest robot population, is now awakening to a crisis as its lead in robotics – one of its last areas of technological prominence - comes under threat from better-coordinated efforts in the United States and Germany, as well as Asian rivals South Korea and China.

As robots advance from the factory floor into homes, hospitals, shops and even war zones, officials hope to spur a new "robotics revolution" by rewriting rules that researchers say have stifled innovation.

"We think robotics can make Japan competitive again," said Atsushi Mano, director of robotic technology at the trade ministry's New Energy and Industrial Technology Development Organization.

The agency has recruited Kawasaki Heavy Industries and Panasonic Corp to make a rival to the da Vinci that could perform more intricate tasks, such as removing pancreatic tumors, while a surgeon manipulates its controls.

At stake is a fast-growing industry - the market for industrial robotic systems is worth $29 billion a year worldwide according to the International Federation of Robotics.

Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe said in June, when he unveiled a framework for sweeping regulatory reforms, that he expected Japan's robot market alone to triple to 2.4 trillion yen ($21 billion) by 2020.

Healthcare robotics is tiny now but has vast potential - such services are expected to overtake industrial uses within 10 years in the Japanese robot market.

The new surgical robot, part of a 5 billion yen medical robotics program that aims to have products in clinical trials by 2019, should have an easier time than Goto faced with regulators.

"If you asked the authorities, they wouldn't say they kept medical devices from reaching the market, but as far as academics and companies are concerned they stopped Japanese research cold," said Goto, a professor at Shinshu University in central Japan.

Abe, who has called a snap election for next month to seek a renewed mandate for his "Abenomics" economic policies, has promised deregulation and structural reform to foster industrial growth as a two-year stimulus drive falters.

RIVAL ROBOTS

A key trigger to action was Google Inc's surprise acquisition a year ago of Schaft, a venture led by two former Tokyo University professors who developed a humanoid robot that handily won a rescue competition run by a research unit of the U.S. Department of Defense. The robot had to drive a utility vehicle and climb a ladder to prevail against more than a dozen rivals.

"Everyone associates bipedal robots with Japan so it was a shock that even that was being pulled away," said Waseda University Professor Masakatsu Fujie.

The U.S. robotics industry has been powered in large part by the military, which provides funding and field testing for drones and disaster-relief robots, while Silicon Valley has nurtured innovations in artificial intelligence and autonomous systems such as Google's self-driving car.

"To be honest, the U.S. is a concern," said Osamu Sudo, who helped to craft Japan's robotics strategy as director of the industrial machinery division at the trade ministry, where he served until early July.

Other countries are also pushing robotics to the forefront of industrial policy: China, where sales grew 32-fold over the last decade to eclipse Japan as the biggest robot market in 2013, aims to make one-third of its own robots by 2015.

South Korea has a five-year plan to spend $500 million a year on its robotics industry, while the European Union has earmarked 100 million euros ($125 million) a year to its Horizon 2020 program that aims to pull in a further 2 billion euros annually in private funding.

Japan is trying to keep up: ministries have requested 16 billion yen ($138 million) for direct investment in robotics in the next fiscal year.

But success will depend largely on reforming a fragmented regulatory process that can set insurmountable hurdles by mandating absolute safety, said Atsuo Takanishi, a professor at Waseda University specializing in robotics.

The trade ministry has convinced health ministry officials to relax certification procedures for medical devices and introduce affordable robots to nursing homes on a trial basis.

It also pushed for an international safety standard for care robots that Panasonic Corp cleared in February with a robotic nursing bed that folds up into a wheelchair, eliminating the need for care-givers to lift their patients.

With the freeing of regulations, Kiyoshi Sawaki, who recently replaced Sudo as head of the trade ministry's industrial machinery division, is confident that the government has created sufficient opportunities to succeed in robotics.

"The approval process is being simplified," he said. "So companies can't use the same excuses that they did before."

Deregulation at heart of Japan's new robotics revolution| Reuters
 
How about Mechatronics? Don't replace humans with robots, make the humans become robots. Everyone these days are into robotics for industry or manufacturing, its not an exclusive club. But human cybernetics and mechatronics is still in its infancy and Japan could take a huge first step.

I'd like the be the first to look like this - supposing I still had a bit of flesh left!
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How about Mechatronics? Don't replace humans with robots, make the humans become robots. Everyone these days are into robotics for industry or manufacturing, its not an exclusive club. But human cybernetics and mechatronics is still in its infancy and Japan could take a huge first step.

I'd like the be the first to look like this - supposing I still had a bit of flesh left!
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Very interesting. It is interesting how we've become so accustomed to computer and artificial intelligence , isn't it? On a side note, have you ever seen the movie "Her" (Joaquin Phoenix was the main actor) ? It was about humans falling in love with an artificial OS. Very provocative film !
 
Very interesting. It is interesting how we've become so accustomed to computer and artificial intelligence , isn't it? On a side note, have you ever seen the movie "Her" (Joaquin Phoenix was the main actor) ? It was about humans falling in love with an artificial OS. Very provocative film !

That can only happen to severely detached (from society) batchelors, imho. At least until the OS has the ability to interfere with the chemistry in the brain that makes you feel in love. Can't comment on anything past that point (question is if it will ever or in the foreseeable future be deregulated to such an extent that commercially available machines will be available that can interact with your brain in such a way, ie not only receiving commands), but up until then, a guy who falls in love with a computer is a loser in my book.
 
That can only happen to severely detached (from society) batchelors, imho. At least until the OS has the ability to interfere with the chemistry in the brain that makes you feel in love. Can't comment on anything past that point (question is if it will ever or in the foreseeable future be deregulated to such an extent that commercially available machines will be available that can interact with your brain in such a way, ie not only receiving commands), but up until then, a guy who falls in love with a computer is a loser in my book.

Hmmm. For me, after watching the movie, it made me appreciate the concept of being "ready" for love, in the sentient form, that is. I really recommend you watch the film if you haven't. It is a tear-jerker.
 
Hmmm. For me, after watching the movie, it made me appreciate the concept of being "ready" for love, in the sentient form, that is. I really recommend you watch the film if you haven't. It is a tear-jerker.

:astagh: <= for the lack of better words :tongue:

and i did watch it.
 
:astagh:


and i did watch it.

The part that i touched me was this line , towards the end:

“I've never loved anyone like I love you,” he says. Me too. And now we know how."

:frown:
 
The part that i touched me was this line , towards the end:

“I've never loved anyone like I love you,” he says. Me too. And now we know how."

:frown:

Man, i get all that...the large symbolic meaning of the moment etc, but sigh!, come on, a guy who falls in love with AI!!!

Fitting she left him at the end, was a good lesson, if you get married you at least have 50% after divorce, this way he got nothing apart from tears and swollen balls! Oh and a computer that has no OS!

I also understand your fascination with it from a psychological point of view, but i still think that would have to have been one fucked up individual. In addition to being isolated from society he would also have to be isolated from his body and it's needs, in particular with regards to libido.
 
Man, i get all that...the large symbolic meaning of the moment etc, but sigh!, come on, a guy who falls in love with AI!!!

Fitting she left him at the end, was a good lesson, if you get married you at least have 50% after divorce, this way he got nothing apart from tears and swollen balls! Oh and a computer that has no OS!

I also understand your fascination with it from a psychological point of view, but i still think that would have to have been one fucked up individual. In addition to being isolated from society he would also have to be isolated from his body and it's needs, in particular with regards to libido.

LOL!

You bring about a very interesting point, buddy. Definitely you have a solid point. For me, I'm coming from the point of view of the male that has experienced a severe break up, the loss of grace one experiences after a long-term relationship that was all-inclusive of a "Loving, Total Relationship". The main character, Theodore, went through an over-aching divorce with his x-wife, Catherine, but never really was over her. In fact, I think it was this divorce that left him emotionally bereft, unable to cope with a new physical relationship. I think this was the reason why he didn't have sex with that girl he met at the bar (the blind date chic).

He was not emotionally ready to invest in another relationship. It was through Samantha that he was able to open up to her, in fact he even was able to change his bad habits through this relationship. For me this movie touched the intrapsychic tensions men experience when experiencing a break up, and it is this said tension that prevents them from investing in another relationship .It was after his relationship with Samantha that he actually was able to "Love" again, and he showed this by finally writing a letter to Catherine that showed him asking for her forgiveness and showcasing how much he really loved her and will always love her, despite their separation. He finally was able to express and release that said intrapsychic tension that had affected his behavior.

Btw, i have a question for you. The ending scene. What's your interpretation of it? When Theodore sat with Amy...on top of the building.
 
Btw, i have a question for you. The ending scene. What's your interpretation of it? When Theodore sat with Amy...on top of the building.

Sorry don't remember exactly. I just know he got dumped ... :tongue:
 
That's not the answer I was yearning for, @Audio !!

So, as if by chance, "Her" was on this week's free movies list on HBO OD. I did take a look at it again this morning, my opinion is that they were comforting each other, seeking solace in one another after the "loss".

It's quite painful for me to watch these, inner space movies, story about one guy, monodrama etc....the one i liked that has a similar narrative ie development of characters through the movie was "Closer". Although, lots of fornication and sleeping around in that one. Loose morals probably drawed me to it.

anyway, i have some remarks,
I remembered why i even watched it in the first place, i'm looking for ideas as to how the near future will be like, and i found "Her" very rewarding. This was actually the only aspect that i really liked about the movie, the vision of seamless connectivity, AI, holoprojectors, large tower buildings called cities.......that and i also liked Amy Adams, though i liked her in "American Hustle" much more.
Joaquin Phoenix fixes his glasses on several occasions throughout the movie, but you can see it's just acting as they haven't really slipped down his nose.
Then this whole premise, that a company would release an OS, that would be then somehow magically be able to traverse platforms by itself, ultimately abandoning it's owner....idk how else to put it, but that's just reckless. Imagine the lawsuits following this departure...imagine the damage to the brand name....
 
The article says the rival robots belong to GOOGLE. Somehow i get a lil queasy when Google gets involved in such projects. Google has been acquiring a lot of robotic companies lately and their work is under wraps.(I hope it's something as cute as self driving car)
Google has acquired eight other robotics companies outright over the past year.


@Nihonjin1051 & @Audio how did this thread turn into a relationship thread??? :laugh:
 
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