Kashmiris concerned by plans for Hindu satellite cities

[SrNair]

the pre -condition also means - India need to withdraw it forces from IOK

Mind yourvown business.SL dont have avsay in these matters

 

[amitkriit]

Until you change the constitution of India, you are simply being delusional

We don't have to change anything. We just have to persuade people to respect the Two Nation Theory like Bodos did to the settlers in Assam. That is all.

Now will we please get back on topic? With a little assistance from the central government we will soon bring the lost glory back to the Kashmir valley. We will soon see a valley buzzing with Kashmiri Pundits, ex-servicemen and people from different states of India.

 

[scorpionx]

Pakistan is never hostile to finding a solution to Kashmir issue but India seem to place all stumbling stocks to peace . India with the 2nd largest pop should take the initiative first to hold a UN plebiscite and the rest will fall in place

Don't bother thanking me , I am just doing my duty

I really wonder where do you manage to get your facts from. Must be some secret underground archives which no one else in the world has access of till now.

By the way, how do you roll around here in spite of being asked again and again, without displaying your flags for years?

 

[Chak Bamu]

Its good to see the future Indian plans for Kashmir. Let us also see how these plans will pan out.

I support return of Pandits to Kashmir. Them being forced out was wrong. It should not have happened.

If Kashmiris see Indians changing demography of the state, they will certainly make problems. The separatism is a genuine Kashmiri affair now. Pakistan does not have much to do with it. LOC is quite a strong barrier. The emotional appeals and pleas from Kashmir will be hard to resist for Pakistan where Kashmir cause is an emotional issue. There are great many ethnic Kashmiris living in Pakistan too.

The best course of action for India might be to improve relations with Pakistan, and for borders to go soft, and have tourism etc.. We need not fight among ourselves. This way there would be no need for a demographic change in Kashmir. Peace is the best solution, not war. But hurt egos see war as a way to redress past (perceived) wrongs.

 

[PlanetWarrior]

We don't have to change anything. We just have to persuade people to respect the Two Nation Theory like Bodos did to the settlers in Assam. That is all.

Now will we please get back on topic? With a little assistance from the central government we will soon bring the lost glory back to the Kashmir valley. We will soon see a valley buzzing with Kashmiri Pundits, ex-servicemen and people from different states of India.

In your dreams. Again, until you change the constitution of India, you are simply being delusional

PS. Go and read up on Article 370 first

Its good to see the future Indian plans for Kashmir. Let us also see how these plans will pan out.

I support return of Pandits to Kashmir. Them being forced out was wrong. It should not have happened.

If Kashmiris see Indians changing demography of the state, they will certainly make problems. The separatism is a genuine Kashmiri affair now. Pakistan does not have much to do with it. LOC is quite a strong barrier. The emotional appeals and pleas from Kashmir will be hard to resist for Pakistan where Kashmir cause is an emotional issue. There are great many ethnic Kashmiris living in Pakistan too.

The best course of action for India might be to improve relations with Pakistan, and for borders to go soft, and have tourism etc.. We need not fight among ourselves. This way there would be no need for a demographic change in Kashmir. Peace is the best solution, not war. But hurt egos see war as a way to redress past (perceived) wrongs.

The most sensible post which I ever read on this forum when it comes to Kashmir. A pipe dream however when you read the comments from many members from both sides of the border here. What is of concern is that despite this being just a forum, it actually reflects the mindset of the younger generation of both Pakistan and India. There are possible future leaders of both nations on this forum. All hope is lost if the future leaders of Pakistan and India think like some of our radicals here

 

[k_arura]

As long as Kashmir is considered disputed it will concern us,



Clusters will increase security but leave long term distrust amongst communities.

Well, calling something a dispute is a double edged sword. What if tomorrow I start claiming that I want to marry your wife and that she is in dispute? Why, because I say so and also that you had taken this "dispute" to a court. To which you say "yes I did but I am now withdrawing so just bug-off." And I will, because I am reasonable.

But Pakistan is not. They have been brainwashed into believing - sorry deluded - that they are the best thing that happened to the world since sliced bread and the whole world has a responsibility to take care of them. Otherwise? (nukes ........) "we will destroy ourselves and others." The only country in the world that threatens all by pointing the gun to itself!

 

[SrNair]

Its good to see the future Indian plans for Kashmir. Let us also see how these plans will pan out.

I support return of Pandits to Kashmir. Them being forced out was wrong. It should not have happened.

If Kashmiris see Indians changing demography of the state, they will certainly make problems. The separatism is a genuine Kashmiri affair now. Pakistan does not have much to do with it. LOC is quite a strong barrier. The emotional appeals and pleas from Kashmir will be hard to resist for Pakistan where Kashmir cause is an emotional issue. There are great many ethnic Kashmiris living in Pakistan too.

The best course of action for India might be to improve relations with Pakistan, and for borders to go soft, and have tourism etc.. We need not fight among ourselves. This way there would be no need for a demographic change in Kashmir. Peace is the best solution, not war. But hurt egos see war as a way to redress past (perceived) wrongs.

Some of the members in this forum dont like special cities to the minorities.But it is ground reality.KP dont trust their muslim brothers means Sunnis in the Kashmir valley.How can they ignore that nightmares during that period?
May in future I hope things will become normal.
Jammu and Kashmir is also an emotional case of India also.
I dont think insurgency can again flourish in Kashmir.Not at least like that present during 1990s.
Different reasons Kashmiris cant oppose this plan because they are also the son of this soil.
Grid system and intelligence are that much excellent.
Anyway we also hope for a good relation with Pakistan.

 

[Chak Bamu]

Well, calling something a dispute is a double edged sword. What if tomorrow I start claiming that I want to marry your wife and that she is in dispute? Why, because I say so and also that you had taken this "dispute" to a court. To which you say "yes I did but I am now withdrawing so just bug-off." And I will, because I am reasonable.

But Pakistan is not. They have been brainwashed into believing - sorry deluded - that they are the best thing that happened to the world since sliced bread and the whole world has a responsibility to take care of them. Otherwise? (nukes ........) "we will destroy ourselves and others." The only country in the world that threatens all by pointing the gun to itself!

And strangely enough it works. It is hard to overlook Pakistan's relevance in three important regions of the world: Central Asia, Middle East, and of course South Asia. That is why what we have to say gets heard and noted.

India can try as hard as it can, but it can not break us. We are perhaps the most resilient people in the world. The best way forward is having genuine peace. If Pakistanis stop worrying about survival, there would be no need for cultivating certain types of people that irk you. There would be no need for Fenced up borders.

The key to all that is with India. We just want to have peace with dignity and honor. Kashmir can solve itself.

 

[k_arura]

Its good to see the future Indian plans for Kashmir. Let us also see how these plans will pan out.

I support return of Pandits to Kashmir. Them being forced out was wrong. It should not have happened.

If Kashmiris see Indians changing demography of the state, they will certainly make problems. The separatism is a genuine Kashmiri affair now. Pakistan does not have much to do with it. LOC is quite a strong barrier. The emotional appeals and pleas from Kashmir will be hard to resist for Pakistan where Kashmir cause is an emotional issue. There are great many ethnic Kashmiris living in Pakistan too.

The best course of action for India might be to improve relations with Pakistan, and for borders to go soft, and have tourism etc.. We need not fight among ourselves. This way there would be no need for a demographic change in Kashmir. Peace is the best solution, not war. But hurt egos see war as a way to redress past (perceived) wrongs.

In place of "The best course of action for India might be to improve relations with Pakistan" you will be more correct if you said "The best course of action for Pakistan might be to improve relations with India" but first you will have to bell your "Pak Army" cat! I don't think they would be interested. Fighting to the End: The Pakistan Army's Way of War: C. Christine Fair: 9780199892709: Amazon.com: Books

And strangely enough it works. It is hard to overlook Pakistan's relevance in three important regions of the world: Central Asia, Middle East, and of course South Asia. That is why what we have to say gets heard and noted.

India can try as hard as it can, but it can not break us. We are perhaps the most resilient people in the world. The best way forward is having genuine peace. If Pakistanis stop worrying about survival, there would be no need for cultivating certain types of people that irk you. There would be no need for Fenced up borders.

The key to all that is with India. We just want to have peace with dignity and honor. Kashmir can solve itself.

If your meaning of dignity is that you want Kashmir, then forget it. Never will it happen.

And strangely enough it works. It is hard to overlook Pakistan's relevance in three important regions of the world: Central Asia, Middle East, and of course South Asia. That is why what we have to say gets heard and noted.

India can try as hard as it can, but it can not break us. We are perhaps the most resilient people in the world. The best way forward is having genuine peace. If Pakistanis stop worrying about survival, there would be no need for cultivating certain types of people that irk you. There would be no need for Fenced up borders.

The key to all that is with India. We just want to have peace with dignity and honor. Kashmir can solve itself.

Yes Pakistan's claim to fame is that it is a nuisance for the world. Nothing positive about it. Like a child screaming for attention and respect. It gets the former but not the latter.

 

[KingMamba]

Any idea which of the 72 sects will be true Muslims? Are there currently 72 sects in Islam? Sorry as well for being offtopic but I never knew this

Lol every sect says they are the true sect lmaoooo anyway it is true about this tradition but nobody can list all the sects anyway and even those who go to hell will eventually enter paradise as no Muslim will stay in hell forever.

 

[qamar1990]

Well you have been helping...so what has changed..please enlighten me!

well hopefully th kashmiris will do a uprising and during that chaos pakistan can sneak of few pakistanis in there with weapons.

 

[Screambowl]

Most of the Pakistani members cannot come at paar on Proper argument with Indian members on Kashmir Issue. And I have never seen any one bringing factual arguments with Indian members. And In the end they start speaking 'dialogues like the guy above.'

 

[PlanetWarrior]

And strangely enough it works. It is hard to overlook Pakistan's relevance in three important regions of the world: Central Asia, Middle East, and of course South Asia. That is why what we have to say gets heard and noted.

India can try as hard as it can, but it can not break us. We are perhaps the most resilient people in the world. The best way forward is having genuine peace. If Pakistanis stop worrying about survival, there would be no need for cultivating certain types of people that irk you. There would be no need for Fenced up borders.

The key to all that is with India. We just want to have peace with dignity and honor. Kashmir can solve itself.

Which factors exactly makes the average Pakistani believe that India is out "break Pakistan" ? I always read on this forum that the average Pakistani believes that peace with India can only be achieved if India hands over Kashmir to Pakistan. My Pakistani friends here in Africa say that frankly, they don't care about Kashmir since Pakistan has enough on its plate. This issue always confuses me

 

[KingMamba]

Anyway back to topic if Indians think non Muslim Kashmiris will be happy with Indians flooding Kashmir with non Kashmiris they are mistaken even the dogras support the article in question. As for return of the pandits every group is Ok with that but other outsiders will be opposed.

 

[AugenBlick]

The best way forward is having genuine peace

The best way forward is suspended animation.

Anyway back to topic if Indians think non Muslim Kashmiris will be happy with Indians flooding Kashmir with non Kashmiris they are mistaken even the dogras support the article in question. As for return of the pandits every group is Ok with that but other outsiders will be opposed.

We will cross that bridge when we come to it.