Azerbaijan interested in Pakistan’s long-range missiles

[Armstrong]

From my personal experience with ****'s I discovered that some part of Pakistani don't share this sentiment. There is nothing wrong with that. Forced brotherhood is not useful. We just have to accept Pakistan is divided in opinion. Some would choose China/Russia, some would choose Turkey/Japan. I'm just wondering in case of war between Russia and Azerbaijan which side they will take.

It is little bit more complicated, if war happens between Azerbaijan and Russia. NATO will be behind Azerbaijan and China behind Russia. Pakistani have to make a choice there. From recent thread where poll was conducted a lot of Pakistani (like 40%) choose China over Turkey.

Dude '****' is an offensive term to us !

Whereas choosing between China & Turkiye is concerned - Don't make us choose !

Thats liks asking Turkiye to choose between - Azerbaijan & Pakistan !

China has stood by us through thick & thin even when our so-called Muslim Brethren abandoned us - If China were ever attacked & volunteers were asked from Pakistan.....I'd join up without hesitation as would tens of thousands of Pakistanis because we remember Our Friends - Always !

Turkiye is Our Brother & I'd do the same for Turkiye !

So please - No talk of choosing one over the other !

 

[-SINAN-]

I didn't meant offense.

It's same as using the "Nigger" word to a black person.. but i did't know that word was offensive at the past.

Anyways, please don't use it.

 

[Bratva]

Because, China sold those missiles before the restrictions on over 300KM missiles taking in place.

In 2007-2008

 

[jandk]

It's same as using the "Nigger" word to a black person.. but i did't know that word was offensive at the past.

Anyways, please don't use it.

@atatwolf is a very sneaky guy

 

[cabatli_53]

-Yildirim project is quite old and obsolete but secret project from 1990's. Today, Turkey developed much longer range secret ballistic missiles that is not introduced yet.
-Yildirim missile is manufactured based on Chinese technology. Pakistani officials most probably
helped Turkey to improve Chinese-Turkish negotiations.
-Chinese-Turkish collaboration has already been continuing on development of more precision ballistic missiles in similar ranges.

 

[-SINAN-]

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@atatwolf is a very sneaky guy

Nope, he is a very honest guy.. he speaks his mind without any restrictions and gets into trouble for that.

I'm sure atatwolf didn't knew that was an offensive word.

 

[atatwolf]

Dude '****' is an offensive term to us !

Whereas choosing between China & Turkiye is concerned - Don't make us choose !

Thats liks asking Turkiye to choose between - Azerbaijan & Pakistan !

China has stood by us through thick & thin even when our so-called Muslim Brethren abandoned us - If China were ever attacked & volunteers were asked from Pakistan.....I'd join up without hesitation as would tens of thousands of Pakistanis because we remember Our Friends - Always !

Turkiye is Our Brother & I'd do the same for Turkiye !

So please - No talk of choosing one over the other !

My apologies again. I didn't mean offense.

About choosing. I think it is important to think about this. In case of war between Azerbaijan and Russia for example. China will side with Russia and Turkey with Azerbaijan. If China asks men from Pakistan, Pakistani have to choose. Sooner or later one has to make choices. Life is about choices.

 

[Kamil_baku]

See thats the kind of behavior I'm talking about !

We sent our boys & our finances to help the Turks when the Ottoman Empire was imploding but we never cared for a 'Thank You' - We still don't because that was Our Duty to our Brothers in Turkiye !

But they remembered that and they remembered us & that made a bond between Turkiye & Pakistan that has lasted the better part of a century despite us being two very different people in a cultural, ethnic, linguistic or even a political sense !

And they helped us in turn in our times of need !

I was never expecting a 'Thank You' from Azerbaijan - Never....not once have I asked for that because otherwise that would mean that we recognized Azerbaijan & refused to recognize Armenia (a nation we no quarrel with) for some selfish purpose - We didn't !

You're right the fact that Muslims were in trouble once more played heavily on our minds & if we couldn't do anything than we could at least lend them some moral or political or diplomatic support made us did what we did !

I'm not expecting anything from Azerbaijan & Azeris but I wasn't expecting these same cold responses from Azerbaijanis either - Wheres the bond ? Wheres the sense of Brotherhood ? You guys don't even bother replying to any Pakistan-related Issue whereas Turks do & Pakistanis in turn reply to Azerbaijan related issues !

Wheres the Connection ?

Just because we're not Turkic - There is no Connection there ?



I've been a member on this forum much longer than you have - I don't remember all of them or even most of them especially when barring one none of them would even reply !

I remember, however, all the Turks who were here & when they left & I was sad for it because they 'INTERACTED' & actually 'CARED' for something beyond the Altays or the Firtnas or whatevers of their Industry !

Dude, i have been participated in all Turkish related forums here recently. from TUrkish tank Altay to Ada calls corvette and t129 helicopters... I dont have time, i only can check it for 1-2 hours at night. That doesnt mean that we are cold. Yes, there are different type of people in Azerbaijan as Everywhere. with not many members, its hard to say.
Also, for example, i just yesterday was checking Pakistan f16 discussion 2... also Chinese.
Im not responsible for other Azeris and can only talk about myself. But, you also should blame the whole Nation for some comments or your own experience based on 3-4 members. Especially most of them might live in Abroad

 

[Umair Nawaz]

They will support Azerbaijan against Armenians and their lords. Let alone that single person and mullah lover @Umair Nawaz. Pakistan is built on the idea of islam and islamic brotherhood, and I am sure +90% of Pakistani people would support Azerbaijan without any hesitation or doubts.

Oh dumbo even i will support the idea of supporting Azeris. But try to understand what my point is. The behavior of azeri members is very strange here and its something even members of my country and others have also mentioned. The thing i feel is that u guys look down upon us atleast thats the impression yr giving....... Take this thread's first few pages as an example one of yr own country men (if i exclude other was saying) was saying that we have better options of israel and turkey so who bother to buy from like pakistan etc etc...So thats why we reacted and it wasnt me only, almost all of my countrymen shared same opinion and even u had to explain in the end to Armstrong.

My view abt Armenia is to having diplomatic relations while on the other hand u guys even have defence relations with a country like israel. So why cant just have diplomatic relations with a country who doesnt directly have anything to do with us! Its just international relations nothing else. But if war broke out i can assure u even i will personally support Azerbaijan.

If any of my talk hurt u then im sorry and i apologize from my heart. But there r some of our individual interests too we have as a country and having trade and diplomatic relations with Armenia wont harm anyone. Thats the whole point.

 

[TurAr]

Fortunately we have plenty of Turkish members here. If it was only me representing Turkey here, oh boy...

Just look how emotional they are

 

[Armstrong]

My apologies again. I didn't mean offense.

About choosing. I think it is important to think about this. In case of war between Azerbaijan and Russia for example. China will side with Russia and Turkey with Azerbaijan. If China asks men from Pakistan, Pakistani have to choose. Sooner or later one has to make choices. Life is about choices.

China will never side with Russia in such a manner nor does the world's largest army require our help in terms of manpower !

 

[rmi5]

It is little bit more complicated, if war happens between Azerbaijan and Russia. NATO will be behind Azerbaijan and China behind Russia. Pakistani have to make a choice there. From recent thread where poll was conducted a lot of Pakistani (like 40%) choose China over Turkey.

I don't think that NATO engages in a war for Azerbaijan. I doubt it even Russia does anything other than helping Armenians either and engages in a war with us on themselves. If Russia wants to directly invade Azerbaijan, all islamic groups, in which many of them are really dangerous and have screwed Russians before in Afghanistan, would side with Azerbaijan. All Chechens, Afghans, Arabs, ... groups would screw Russia. They, including Afghan mujahadin, chechens, ... helped Azerbaijan a lot against Russians and Armenians. Remember that we almost did not even have an army when Armenians invaded us.
Anyway, China is another story, and be sure that they would not give a **** about Russia in case of a war. They even helped mujahadin in Afghanistan. What China cares about is solely their benefits and economical progress.

 

[Armstrong]

Dude, i have been participated in all Turkish related forums here recently. from TUrkish tank Altay to Ada calls corvette and t129 helicopters... I dont have time, i only can check it for 1-2 hours at night. That doesnt mean that we are cold. Yes, there are different type of people in Azerbaijan as Everywhere. with not many members, its hard to say.
Also, for example, i just yesterday was checking Pakistan f16 discussion 2... also Chinese.
Im not responsible for other Azeris and can only talk about myself. But, you also should blame the whole Nation for some comments or your own experience based on 3-4 members. Especially most of them might live in Abroad

Dude I wasn't blaming Azerbaijan or Azeris in general, I was only talking about Azeris on PDF - I think I mentioned that in my first post !

 

[rmi5]

In 2007-2008

It was not in 2007-2008. The only confirmed selling Chinese ballistic missiles to KSA is done about 4 decades ago.

 

[Armstrong]

Fortunately we have plenty of Turkish members here. If it was only me representing Turkey here, oh boy...

Just look how emotional they are

You are in need of a spanking !