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Iran nuclear deal reached

We are not talking about Israel and its policy towards Iran; Because it is not Israel that is isolated from the World and sanctioned.

I am not trying to work out something, l just gave an example to a member WHO said Americans gather in tea party to talk about a war against some country.

Yes, and we never threatened to ATTACK Israel by military force. They are totally different.
 
Yes, and we never threatened to ATTACK Israel by military force. They are totally different.


I am confused, you simply say that ''wiping out a country from the map'' does not mean an attack by military? Seriously?


The regime in Iran have done many mistakes and thsoe suffered people in Iran; however, you only blame and attack or make excuses to justify the regime that has at the moment backstepped from its policy.
 
My point is that The Money is now to be spent for citizens not some troubled countries or weapon industry.

I am pretty sure that 8-10 000 troops will not make a big deal compared to the budget of the army.

You are right that some soldiers have done some mistakes and got away from them; but i do not think the whole army has the same bad attitude against the civilians.

That's true in some sense, the US policy has taken a little turn. Although I don't have much hope for Afghanistan unfortunately as the corruption will still be there and nothing will change for the people if there is no new reformed political party. I seriously can't believe why the Taliban doesn't resketch their goals and take a new approach to win the people.

As for the weapons industry here it is getting a lot of funding and even cheating the government to get more funding which they got caught doing.

They are doing better than one would expect.
 
That's true in some sense, the US policy has taken a little turn. Although I don't have much hope for Afghanistan unfortunately as the corruption will still be there and nothing will change for the people if there is no new reformed political party. I seriously can't believe why the Taliban doesn't resketch their goals and take a new approach to win the people.

As for the weapons industry here it is getting a lot of funding and even cheating the government to get more funding which they got caught doing.

They are doing better than one would expect.

That is the problem of Afghan people; and i believe Taliban is not better option for Afghans WHO are tired of killings of others and oppression.
 
That is the problem of Afghan people; and i believe Taliban is not better option for Afghans WHO are tired of killings of others and oppression.

Agree with you and that's why I think they have an opportunity if they wise up a little bit and reform their movement. Keep it Islamic but don't have tribal conflicts and solve things in a wiser fashion. They shouldn't threaten any afghani people as well.
 
Agree with you and that's why I think they have an opportunity if they wise up a little bit and reform their movement. Keep it Islamic but don't have tribal conflicts and solve things in a wiser fashion. They shouldn't threaten any afghani people as well.

I try to keep distant from these discussions , but seriously , Tribal conflict !!!!!?o_O
 
I don't mean to play the spoilsport here but I don't think that this agreement will last for long. It's short term, completely reversible and at the mercy of the Obama administration(which is already in its second term). Not to mention the two biggest lobbies(Israel and Saudia) in the United States will fight tooth and nail to nullify it.
 
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By the way. How Americans would justify a missile defense system in Europe near Russia's borders? After all, they argued that they "protected from Iranian nuclear missiles?"

they would justify them with Russian nuclear missiles now
 
Well, thats the main purpose of the defense system or not?

No one's even gonna remember that , certainly not with Obama and the ****** he is , the event got news attention cause the name of the Russian missiles were Iskander.
 
Not to forget that all the attention that will go to Israel's nuclear stockpile.
Anyways, congrats Iran

It has already begun.

'Fight Club' producer Arnon Milchan: I helped Israeli spy agency

Los Angeles (CNN) -- Hollywood producer Arnon Milchan confirmed what has been rumored for decades -- that he secretly helped Israel develop its nuclear weapons program.

Milchan, who has produced dozens of major movies and worked with the biggest stars, worked for Israel's now-defunct spy unit Bureau of Scientific Relations, he told Israeli television's Uvda "Fact 14" show.

A 2011 book detailed Milchan's secret work, but until now he has not talked openly about his life of espionage.

Milchan, whose films include "Fight Club," "Pretty Woman," and "L.A. Confidential," set up and operated dozens of companies that helped Israel obtain parts and plans for its nuclear project in the 1980s, he said.

"I did it for my country and I'm proud of it," Milchan told interviewer Ilana Dayan in a report aired this week.

His spy work was a rumor in the 1980s when Milchan was producing movies, including "The King of Comedy" and "Once Upon a Time in America" with actor Robert De Niro.

De Niro sat with Milchan for an interview with Dayan for the show. He said he suspected something about the producer's "ventures" decades ago, but "I wasn't sure."

He didn't question his producer about the rumors because "it wasn't my business," he said. "He didn't ask me certain things and I don't ask him. "

Milchan: 'Wow! The action! That was exciting'

Milchan -- born in 1944 in what was then Palestine -- was a successful young businessman in the United States when his friend Shimon Peres -- who later became Israel's prime minister -- recruited him to help after the 1973 Yom Kippur War, the Uvda report said.

Israeli spy officials used bank accounts set up by Milchan to make weapons-related purchases around the world, including helicopters and missiles, the report said.

"Do you know what it was like to be a 20-something guy whose country decided to let him be James Bond? Wow! The action! That was exciting," Milchan told Dayan.

Milchan told how he convinced a German engineer to let him photograph plans for a nuclear facility.

When the FBI discovered one of his companies was used to ship nuclear triggers to Israel without proper licenses, it resulted in the 1985 indictment of an executive who was involved. Charges against Milchan were dropped by the Reagan administration.

"I didn't know Israel ordered the triggers," Milchan told Dayan. "I didn't even know what triggers were."

He also acknowledged helping the government of South Africa with public relations when it was under intense international criticism and sanctions because of its apartheid system. His help was in exchange for uranium supplied to Israel from South Africa, he said.

Director Sidney Pollack, whose films included "Tootsie" and "Out of Africa," was "my partner in export in aerospace, planes, all kinds of things, with license," Milchan said. "He had to decide what he was willing and what he was not. On many things he said 'No.' Many things he said 'Yes.' "

Milchan is a multi-billionaire, but he insisted that he never profited from his spy work.


'Fight Club' producer Arnon Milchan: I helped Israeli spy agency - CNN.com
 
congrats to Iran and our Iranian members
now Pakistan - for goodness sake get your act together before its too late -
 
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