BBC - When Pakistan planned to attack Bhabha Atomic Research Center with F-16s

[Imran Khan]

BBC urdu jjust posts a nice article today @Windjammer you need to translate it in English

source of article is AM ANWAR SHAMEEM when he announced in 1985 that paksitan have plan to attack Bhabha Atomic Research Center if india attacked Kahuta.

pakistnai gov and military informed india if any misadventure on kahuta Pakistan will retaliate with attack on indian nuclear facilities .

جب پاکستان نے ایف سولہ طیاروں کو جوہری میزائل کا متبادل تصور کیا! - BBC News اردو

16 دسمبر1985 کی صبح انسٹیٹیوٹ آف سٹرٹیجک سٹڈیز اسلام آباد (آئی ایس ایس آئی) میں ریٹائرڈ ائیر چیف مارشل نے اپنی تقریر میں اشارہ دیا کہ نئے حاصل کردہ ایف سولہ طیارے بھی ’جوہری بم کے علاوہ پاکستان کا نیوکلئیر آپشن ہیں۔‘

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[Signalian]

ATLIS pod becomes relevant ?

Maybe bomb tossing

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

BBC urdu jjust posts a nice article today @Windjammer you need to translate it in English

source of article is AM ANWAR SHAMEEM when he announced in 1985 that paksitan have plan to attack Bhabha Atomic Research Center if india attacked Kahuta.

pakistnai gov and military informed india if any misadventure on kahuta Pakistan will retaliate with attack on indian nuclear facilities .

جب پاکستان نے ایف سولہ طیاروں کو جوہری میزائل کا متبادل تصور کیا! - BBC News اردو

16 دسمبر1985 کی صبح انسٹیٹیوٹ آف سٹرٹیجک سٹڈیز اسلام آباد (آئی ایس ایس آئی) میں ریٹائرڈ ائیر چیف مارشل نے اپنی تقریر میں اشارہ دیا کہ نئے حاصل کردہ ایف سولہ طیارے بھی ’جوہری بم کے علاوہ پاکستان کا نیوکلئیر آپشن ہیں۔‘

www.bbc.com

Morarji Desai - it comes first in the Mind regarding the incident in 1978 and the telephonic conversation.

 

[Imran Khan]

Morarji Desai - it comes first in the Mind regarding the incident in 1978 and the telephonic conversation.

paksitnais have intelligence in 1979 that india is planning to attack kahuta
AM shameem sai he informed gen zia that no one can defend kahuta its 3 minutes flight from border . once our air crafts reach kahuta inddians will already bomb and left . we need aircraft which deter india . and they selected f-16 for counter attack . usa refused first to supply but letter agreed . once f-16 arrived pakistanis have planned a counter attack and informed indians in three layers that if india attacked kahuta paksitan will attack bhabha and other indian facilites .

he asked secretory of science and technology to meet indian deligation at international atomic conference and inform them that india attack kahuta pakistan will attack bhabbha

when munir talked to his indian counterpart indian secretory replied BHAI WE KNOW YOUR CAPABILITIES AND INDIA WILL NOT HAVE MISSION ATTACK KAHUTA.

 

[TNT]

paksitnais have intelligence in 1979 that india is planning to attack kahuta
AM shameem sai he informed gen zia that no one can defend kahuta its 3 minutes flight from border . once our air crafts reach kahuta inddians will already bomb and left . we need aircraft which deter india . and they selected f-16 for counter attack . usa refused first to supply but letter agreed . once f-16 arrived pakistanis have planned a counter attack and informed indians in three layers that if india attacked kahuta paksitan will attack bhabha and other indian facilites .

he asked secretory of science and technology to meet indian deligation at international atomic conference and inform them that india attack kahuta pakistan will attack bhabbha

when munir talked to his indian counterpart indian secretory replied BHAI WE KNOW YOUR CAPABILITIES AND INDIA WILL NOT HAVE MISSION ATTACK KAHUTA.

So it was not stupid to make a sensitive nuclear facility so near to the border?

 

[Pindi Boy]

So it was not stupid to make a sensitive nuclear facility so near to the border?

Do you have a better location in mind?

 

[Imran Khan]

So it was not stupid to make a sensitive nuclear facility so near to the border?

at that time we have no secure location anywhere

west we have soviets
east we have India
south we have sea .

 

[MIRauf]

Timing of the report, what purpose does it serve ? when what's in the report is well known from previous releases since late 70s & onward. Distract from what ? that should be the question we be asking.

 

[ProudPak]

at that time we have no secure location anywhere

west we have soviets
east we have India
south we have sea .

If we don't have traitors like the current military leadership of the politicians then even if the nuclear facility was at wagah border it will be safe

 

[MIRauf]

So it was not stupid to make a sensitive nuclear facility so near to the border?

When selected, the site was well protected from low level strikes as approach required attacker to gain height as facility is surrounded by hills thus exposing themselves to AA and SAM. Mind you, this was all before CM and other type of SoWs.

Part of unable to defend is akin to asking for Gov't backing for procurement of F-16s, worked well didn't it ?

 

[TNT]

Do you have a better location in mind?

Balochistan, being the biggest province, almost half of all Pakistan.

 

[Umair Nawaz]

ATLIS pod becomes relevant ?

Maybe bomb tossing

toss bombing, op orchard style!

op orchard was israeli raid on iraqi nuke reactor in 82.
Here f16s training for toss bombing, the same technique IAF used to bomb it.

Abb manty hona k PAF has the highest IQ? even higher then yr Naval class fellows???

 

[vishwambhar]

Bhabha center is nearby mumbai Island.... Pakistan F16 are the most capable fighters in South Asia but that time Pakistan didn't have air refuellers...... that time F16s were capable to reach over Bhabha but after mission were not capable to return to Pakistan due to short range...... there was huge risk in shaping this mission as target was not on the border it was deep inside and India had spanking new Fulcrums to defend in own backyard.....

 

[Umair Nawaz]

Do you have a better location in mind?

yeah its not a good location. Better location would be in KPK or Balochistan. Away from indian reach.

Bhabha center is nearby mumbai Island.... Pakistan F16 are the most capable fighters in South Asia but that time Pakistan didn't have air refuellers...... that time F16s were capable to reach over Bhabha but after mission were not capable to return to Pakistan due to short range...... there was huge risk in shaping this mission as target was not on the border it was deep inside and India had spanking new Fulcrums to defend in own backyard.....

fulcrums arnt really on f16 level.

But u need to search abt f16's range......it is capable of reaching there bomb and return.

 

[Pindi Boy]

Balochistan, being the biggest province, almost half of all Pakistan.

Terrible location, there would be daily attacks on facility and staff by Baloch terrorists