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Erdogan says Saudi Arabia has requested to purchase armed drones from Turkey

Turkey is trying to develop Yemen policy mostly over tribes/clans and independent from the interventionist parties on regional scale. The destruction points in the fight between two interventionist regional actors are the main area of interest to facilitate healing. Ramadan is approaching. huge aid campaigns have started here for Yemen right now, by KIZILAY, AFAD, TIKA and others, as past years. Yemen is one of the most important 3-4 focal points of Turkish aid organizations operating in approximately 60 countries around the world. Currently, many civilians which are mostly related to these organizations, actively working in Yemen. In the parrallel of this, Turkey gives warm messages to KSA too by declaring a message of condemnation against the ballistic attacks carried out by the Houthis within the KSA territory. But most importantly, Turkey perception is getting stronger locally, and indeed, this is more important than anything.
 


Lool....

Should not sell them and remind them game with ther Greece brothers.....

Desperated losing war in Yemen and asking for help, should sell them like the west do. 5 times the price milk them out.... 😀

No ToT nothing....
They can’t make up their mind when jasta law was passed they wanted to make alliance with turkey and after trump came in and hated turkey and considered it as enemy and the same with Russia they tryed to destroy the Russian economy with the oil production and prices now they wan an alliance with Russia 😂
 
i have said this before and i will say it again for those of you who say Yemen is another Syria for Turkey drones you are wrong and you are no military analysts how many MQ9s drones has Syria shoot down ? not even one but Yemen are shooting them and other drones down left and right so don't be ignorant with all do respect Turkey drone are not as advanced as American ones yet


 
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i have said this before and i will say it again for those of you how say Yemen is another Syria for Turkey drones you are wrong and you are no military analysts how many MQ9s drones has Syria shoot down ? not even one but Yemen are shooting them and other drones down left and right so don't be ignorant with all do respect Turkey drone are not as advanced as American ones yet




I am telling you fanboys, it doesn't matter what kind SAM you bring all will be destroyed. Libya, Syria and Karabagh...


Bayraktar will spy from 30 km far and that old russian old garbage can not shoot it from that distance.
They can’t make up their mind when jasta law was passed they wanted to make alliance with turkey and after trump came in and hated turkey and considered it as enemy and the same with Russia they tryed to destroy the Russian economy with the oil production and prices now they wan an alliance with Russia 😂


2030 vision....
 
unconfirmed news : Iran units in Yemen say Bayraktar TB2s have reached Yemen and operating for 2 days straight but unable to changes the Houthis goal in retaking Marib, it is expected that Marib will fall Soon, waiting for confirmation but i like to keep you guys updated even with unconfirmed news.
 
unconfirmed news : Iran units in Yemen say Bayraktar TB2s have reached Yemen and operating for 2 days straight but unable to changes the Houthis goal in retaking Marib, it is expected that Marib will fall Soon, waiting for confirmation but i like to keep you guys updated even with unconfirmed news.
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This is an unreal fiction produced exactly 10 minutes ago by skyshadow.

Various types of UAVs belonging to KSA could be operating in the Yemen airspace but there is absolutely no Baykar-TB2 in them. KARAYEL-SU is another platform. It has nothing to do with TB2. It is very frustrating to be exposed to this form of propaganda, based on fake claims.
 
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No way KSA buy TB2. KSA has access to far superior drones from China, the US which have SATCOM.
 
The cooperation in question has nothing to do with either China or Iran. I'm having trouble understanding that why possible military-industrial convergence between Turkey and KSA triggering Chinese or the Iranians?
Becos obviously a turkish member come in with the obvious insult on others first.
No way KSA buy TB2. KSA has access to far superior drones from China, the US which have SATCOM.
Precisely, turkish drone will need to depend on US GPS. With Biden in place who is not favour of Saudi. Using Chinese drone supported by Beidou 3 GPS will be a safer choice.
 
The cooperation in question has nothing to do with either China or Iran. I'm having trouble understanding that why possible military-industrial convergence between Turkey and KSA triggering Chinese or the Iranians?
because chinese drone are garbage...
 
because chinese drone are garbage...
No, they aren't. They're far from it.

You should worry about being able to supply Pakistan with the helicopters you promised it. Where do you get the engines for the drones you're allegedly going to sell to Saudi Arabia and can you guarantee that you'll be able to supply them? Assuming, of course, that all of this isn't just fiction.
 
Saudi arabia is also licensing Chinese heavy UAVs


Fail to understand Erdogan statement .... KSA already have Turkish drone with load.

SAUDI ARABIA INKS DRONE MANUFACTURING DEAL






March 16, 2021
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Photo Source: INTRA Defense Technologies
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SAUDI ARABIA INKS DRONE MANUFACTURING DEAL
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Saudi Arabia’s General Authority of Military Industries (GAMI) announced that it will acquire 46 unmanned aerial vehicles (UAV) from local defence vendor INTRA Defense Technologies.
The UAV acquisition will start in Q1 2021 at a projected cost of $199.5 million US.
Neither GAMI or INTRA revealed the type or specifications of the drone, but INTRA showcases two drone types in its product portfolio: the ASEF vertical take-off and landing (VTOL) UAV, and the Karayel combat-capable UAV. Thus, GAMI’s order is likely for one (or both) of these UAVs.
The Karayel was developed by the Turkish company Vestel, which unveiled the armed UAV in 2017 at the Dubai Air Show. With a wingspan of 13 m, the Karayel offers an endurance of eight hours when equipped with a payload of 120 kg. If equipped with solely a 50 kg electro-optical and infrared (EO/IR) sensor suite, the Karayel can operate for 20 hours and reach an altitude of 18,000 ft.
It should be noted that INTRA’s UAV is among several programs in Saudi Arabia. In 2017, the King Abdulaziz City for Science and Technology (KACST) revealed its own UAV design, the Saqr-1. Likewise, there had also been reports of KACST manufacturing Chinese CH-series UAVs under license.
Given the mandate of GAMI (i.e., to promote Saudi Arabia’s defence industry), INTRA will commit to locally manufacture the UAVs. Moreover, INTRA’s CEO Salman Al-Shathri said that his company will localize 60% of the program’s total value across both production and maintenance. He added that the program will generate around 500 jobs, of which 70% will go to Saudi Arabia.
In addition, INTRA is also aiming to export the UAVs to other markets.


Janes reported ..

Karayel UAV lost over Yemen
by Jeremy Binnie



The Yemeni rebel group Ansar Allah (the Houthis) claimed on 30 December that it shot down a Turkish-developed Karayel unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) over Al-Hudaydah province as part of an escalated air defence campaign.

A still from a video released by Ansar Allah (Houthis) on 31 December 2019 shows armed men recovering the wreckage of an aircraft identified as a Karayel UAV operated by Saudi Arabia (Ansar Allah)

A still from a video released by Ansar Allah (Houthis) on 31 December 2019 shows armed men recovering the wreckage of an aircraft identified as a Karayel UAV operated by Saudi Arabia (Ansar Allah)
The group’s website cited its military spokesman as saying the Karayel was operated by Saudi Arabia and was brought down with a surface-to-air missile (SAM) near the Red Sea port of Al-Salif.

It supported this claim with a video purportedly showing the SAM being launched during the night and armed men carrying the wreckage of an aircraft that matched a Karayel from the sea the following day. The air defence system used in the engagement was not shown.

The Karayel was developed by the Turkish company Vestel Defence Industry, which told Jane’s in 2016 that it was operating the type on behalf of the Turkish Land Forces. The company unveiled the Karayel-SU extended-wing variant that can be armed with Roketsan MAM-L and MAM-C guided bombs at the Dubai Air Show in November 2017.

The Karayel was not previously known to be in service with the Saudi military. The downed aircraft may have been operated on its behalf by Intra Defense Technologies, a Saudi company that advertises the Karayel as one of its products and offers “end-to-end” UAV surveillance and reconnaissance services for both military and civil customers.
 
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Fail to understand Erdogan statement .... KSA already have Turkish drone with load.

SAUDI ARABIA INKS DRONE MANUFACTURING DEAL






March 16, 2021
Karayel-Intra-692x360.jpg


Photo Source: INTRA Defense Technologies
Daily News
May 6, 2020Quwa Team -
SAUDI ARABIA INKS DRONE MANUFACTURING DEAL
ShareTweet

Saudi Arabia’s General Authority of Military Industries (GAMI) announced that it will acquire 46 unmanned aerial vehicles (UAV) from local defence vendor INTRA Defense Technologies.
The UAV acquisition will start in Q1 2021 at a projected cost of $199.5 million US.
Neither GAMI or INTRA revealed the type or specifications of the drone, but INTRA showcases two drone types in its product portfolio: the ASEF vertical take-off and landing (VTOL) UAV, and the Karayel combat-capable UAV. Thus, GAMI’s order is likely for one (or both) of these UAVs.
The Karayel was developed by the Turkish company Vestel, which unveiled the armed UAV in 2017 at the Dubai Air Show. With a wingspan of 13 m, the Karayel offers an endurance of eight hours when equipped with a payload of 120 kg. If equipped with solely a 50 kg electro-optical and infrared (EO/IR) sensor suite, the Karayel can operate for 20 hours and reach an altitude of 18,000 ft.
It should be noted that INTRA’s UAV is among several programs in Saudi Arabia. In 2017, the King Abdulaziz City for Science and Technology (KACST) revealed its own UAV design, the Saqr-1. Likewise, there had also been reports of KACST manufacturing Chinese CH-series UAVs under license.
Given the mandate of GAMI (i.e., to promote Saudi Arabia’s defence industry), INTRA will commit to locally manufacture the UAVs. Moreover, INTRA’s CEO Salman Al-Shathri said that his company will localize 60% of the program’s total value across both production and maintenance. He added that the program will generate around 500 jobs, of which 70% will go to Saudi Arabia.
In addition, INTRA is also aiming to export the UAVs to other markets.


Janes reported ..

Karayel UAV lost over Yemen
by Jeremy Binnie



The Yemeni rebel group Ansar Allah (the Houthis) claimed on 30 December that it shot down a Turkish-developed Karayel unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) over Al-Hudaydah province as part of an escalated air defence campaign.

A still from a video released by Ansar Allah (Houthis) on 31 December 2019 shows armed men recovering the wreckage of an aircraft identified as a Karayel UAV operated by Saudi Arabia (Ansar Allah)

A still from a video released by Ansar Allah (Houthis) on 31 December 2019 shows armed men recovering the wreckage of an aircraft identified as a Karayel UAV operated by Saudi Arabia (Ansar Allah)
The group’s website cited its military spokesman as saying the Karayel was operated by Saudi Arabia and was brought down with a surface-to-air missile (SAM) near the Red Sea port of Al-Salif.

It supported this claim with a video purportedly showing the SAM being launched during the night and armed men carrying the wreckage of an aircraft that matched a Karayel from the sea the following day. The air defence system used in the engagement was not shown.

The Karayel was developed by the Turkish company Vestel Defence Industry, which told Jane’s in 2016 that it was operating the type on behalf of the Turkish Land Forces. The company unveiled the Karayel-SU extended-wing variant that can be armed with Roketsan MAM-L and MAM-C guided bombs at the Dubai Air Show in November 2017.

The Karayel was not previously known to be in service with the Saudi military. The downed aircraft may have been operated on its behalf by Intra Defense Technologies, a Saudi company that advertises the Karayel as one of its products and offers “end-to-end” UAV surveillance and reconnaissance services for both military and civil customers.
OK, see, that's nice. This looks like an actual deal with some details and numbers to it. The only issue is
The UAV acquisition will start in Q1 2021 at a projected cost of $199.5 million US.
Compare this with the scale of Saudi acquisitions of Chinese "garbage" drones
Media in Saudi Arabia reported that the Kingdom will acquire 300 Chinese UAVs (eg. Wing Loong IIs) worth approximately $10 billion.
You've surely noticed that $200 million (I threw in half a mil in there because what's a rounding error between friends) vs. $10 billion is quite a difference in scale.
 
i have said this before and i will say it again for those of you how say Yemen is another Syria for Turkey drones you are wrong and you are no military analysts how many MQ9s drones has Syria shoot down ? not even one but Yemen are shooting them and other drones down left and right so don't be ignorant with all do respect Turkey drone are not as advanced as American ones yet


Losses of UAV over Yemen for reference:

CH-4 = 3
MQ-9 Reaper = 3
MQ-1 Predator = 3
Wing Long = 2
Karayel = 1
Seeker 200 = 1
Unknown = 1
because chinese drone are garbage...
I would not say that.

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Yaacoub et al (2020)

You can see Chinese advances in this chart.
 
Losses of UAV over Yemen for reference:

CH-4 = 3
MQ-9 Reaper = 3
MQ-1 Predator = 3
Wing Long = 2
Karayel = 1
Seeker 200 = 1
Unknown = 1

I would not say that.

1-s2.0-S2542660519302112-fx1.jpg

Yaacoub et al (2020)

You can see Chinese advances in this chart.
That chart is highly incomplete as far Chinese drones go. It's missing the GJ-11 and CH-7 stealth UCAVs, the entire CH lineup of MALEs, and the Wind Shadow/Cloud Shadow. And that's just at a glance, I'm sure if I wracked my brain I could come up with a bunch more.

Edit: I just remembered a couple more: Since the Global Hawk is there, so should the Divine Eagle and Soaring Dragon HALE drones.
 

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