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Breaking! 3 Indian soldiers killed & many injured in IoK

India is prepared for dead bodies. And so is Pakistan. We will keep counting over Kashmir.
And nothing will change.

You wont get it, neither the Kashmiris.
Why such a destructive, hate filled mindset?

Why can't you look beyond this greedy, petty desire to forcibly occupy Kashmiris & perpetuate the conflict with Pakistan, causing even more death and suffering for generations to come?

Why not think about the broader picture and longer term, of the potential economic, cultural and people to people ties between two nations at peace (and South Asia more broadly) were the J&K dispute resolved.

Notice how all the ones killed are Hindus. Give more legitimacy to the freedom struggle of Kashmiris.
These dirty Hindutva terrorists belong to dirty Ganga not Kashmir.
Please - no need to disparage Hindus. Just leave it at Indians.
 
Why such a destructive, hate filled mindset?

Why can't you look beyond this greedy, petty desire to forcibly occupy Kashmiris & perpetuate the conflict with Pakistan, causing even more death and suffering for generations to come?

Why not think about the broader picture and longer term, of the potential economic, cultural and people to people ties between two nations at peace (and South Asia more broadly) were the J&K dispute resolved.


Please - no need to disparage Hindus. Just leave it at Indians.

All the Indians had to do after Partition was understand why Partition took place and respect muslim populations desire to leave

Their one india policy has been disastrous for them, Kashmir and Indian Muslims

And now they are all stuck
 
Why such a destructive, hate filled mindset?

Why can't you look beyond this greedy, petty desire to forcibly occupy Kashmiris & perpetuate the conflict with Pakistan, causing even more death and suffering for generations to come?

Why not think about the broader picture and longer term, of the potential economic, cultural and people to people ties between two nations at peace (and South Asia more broadly) were the J&K dispute resolved.

Fine let's resolve Kashmir. You expect India to resolve Kashmir with terrorists killing soldiers and civilians there ? You expect India to come to the table with a gun pointed to its head ? Please let's just forget about it. India and Pakistan may resolve Kashmir one day but it isn't going to happen till the time these Hizbul Mujahideens, Lashkars, Jaish's and the like continue to exist.

India will kill some, they will kill some and the cycle will continue.
 
Fine let's resolve Kashmir. You expect India to resolve Kashmir with terrorists killing soldiers and civilians there ? You expect India to come to the table with a gun pointed to its head ? Please let's just forget about it. India and Pakistan may resolve Kashmir one day but it isn't going to happen till the time these Hizbul Mujahideens, Lashkars, Jaish's and the like continue to exist.

India will kill some, they will kill some and the cycle will continue.
Come on...
If it was an issue of terrorism, it would have been solved in couple of years.
Let's listen to you, a decade, or 2, or max 3?
Its been more than 70 years, you are not making anyone else fool but only yourself and your people by branding this as terrorism!
 
Fine let's resolve Kashmir. You expect India to resolve Kashmir with terrorists killing soldiers and civilians there ? You expect India to come to the table with a gun pointed to its head ? Please let's just forget about it. India and Pakistan may resolve Kashmir one day but it isn't going to happen till the time these Hizbul Mujahideens, Lashkars, Jaish's and the like continue to exist.

India will kill some, they will kill some and the cycle will continue.
I completely agree that violence should end, but it takes two to Tango.

Hypothetically, India engages with Pakistan and comes up with a joint statement that both sides agree to using plebiscite as a means to dispute resolution in principle, but that tangible progress towards plebiscite must meet XYZ conditions.

Specify those conditions, establish a broad road-map and tangible markers that need to be met (reduction in violence etc). You have to give people hope and a light at the end of the tunnel. What the BJP has done is move in the opposite direction with the revocation of 370 & policies that suggest settlement of non-Kashmiris in J&K and an eventual demographic genocide.

In the long term, a massive India is going to be the centerpiece of a possible South Asian FTZ. Culturally India already has a massive influence across the region - you're only shooting yourselves in the foot with this short sighted approach towards J&K.
 
both countries are ,playing to public emotion,s,,, but only with small fire crackers.
both countries leaders, lack , brain n balls,
to start some reckless without their imperial masters wishes.
they both got their proxy's to do some dirty work ,

IF EVEN 1 LEADER HAD THE BALLS,
WELL WE WOULD,T BE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION,
 
Mujahideen, Lashkar, Jaish etc are by product or Indian occupation, heavy miltrilization, lack of democracy in valley and the war crimes etc.
They will continue to exist until you'll be fielding your guns in between the villages on IOK...

both countries are ,playing to public emotion,s,,, but only with small fire crackers.
both countries leaders, lack , brain n balls,
to start some reckless without their imperial masters wishes.
they both got their proxy's to do some dirty work ,

IF EVEN 1 LEADER HAD THE BALLS,
WELL WE WOULD,T BE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION,
Both countries are only playing politics over deadbodies...
Leaders can bear already flowing blood but can't imagine any political defeat to their party incase the result is not infavor of their own country....
 
Fine let's resolve Kashmir. You expect India to resolve Kashmir with terrorists killing soldiers and civilians there ? You expect India to come to the table with a gun pointed to its head ?
It's not like Kashmiris & Pakistan didn't try soft tune dialogue with you. You only learn language of 'chittar'.
 
I completely agree that violence should end, but it takes two to Tango.

Hypothetically, India engages with Pakistan and comes up with a joint statement that both sides agree to using plebiscite as a means to dispute resolution in principle, but that tangible progress towards plebiscite must meet XYZ conditions.

Specify those conditions, establish a broad road-map and tangible markers that need to be met (reduction in violence etc). You have to give people hope and a light at the end of the tunnel. What the BJP has done is move in the opposite direction with the revocation of 370 & policies that suggest settlement of non-Kashmiris in J&K and an eventual demographic genocide.

In the long term, a massive India is going to be the centerpiece of a possible South Asian FTZ. Culturally India already has a massive influence across the region - you're only shooting yourselves in the foot with this short sighted approach towards J&K.

There are two serious practical impediments to what you suggest:

1) The party that does this, even remotely moves in this direction, will cease to exist in India, politically and ideologically for posterity, forget about ever coming to power ever again. Political suicide. And Indian politicians like politicians the world over are blessed with miraculous powers of self preservation.

2) There would be a civili war. Pan India. The army would be called in. And the army would join the people it comes from. Pakistan would still face tge Indian Army in Kashmir. Without a political safety valve. And your Generals would finally have a OG mirror to look into. And they would not like what they see.
 
Mujahideen, Lashkar, Jaish etc are by product or Indian occupation, heavy miltrilization, lack of democracy in valley and the war crimes etc.
They will continue to exist until you'll be fielding your guns in between the villages on IOK...


Both countries are only playing politics over deadbodies...
Leaders can bear already flowing blood but can't imagine any political defeat to their party incase the result is not infavor of their own country....[/QUO

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