Pakistan’s Cold War Technology shrinks the effectiveness of India’s S-400 ABM System – Akash S Muham

[Ultima Thule]

And i haven't mentioned cruise missiles sir

quite the opposite they are very costly.sir

Not as their targets SAMs @Fawadqasim1

 

[Fawadqasim1]

Not as their targets SAMs @Fawadqasim1

I don't understand what you are contemplating

 

[Ultima Thule]

And sir s400 primarily a Sam system it's BMD capabilities are limited and secondary

It was just an example. A thought provoking one

No its first longest range missile has no capability to intercepts fighter jets its solely build for ABM purpose, second missile has a capability to intercept fighter jets and third one is for CM interception with a limited capability @Fawadqasim1

I don't understand what you are contemplating

means that CM is not costly as entire SAMs systems @Fawadqasim1

 

[Fawadqasim1]

No its first longest range missile has no capability to intercepts fighter jets its solely build for ABM purpose, second missile has a capability to intercept fighter jets and third one is for CM interception with a limited capability @Fawadqasim1


means that CM is not costly as entire SAMs systems @Fawadqasim1

I am sorry to say that all of the above proposition are wrong.

I will advise you sir to study s400 system in-depth

 

[Ultima Thule]

I am sorry to say that all of the above proposition are wrong.

Can you prove me wrong @Fawadqasim1 with facts/links/source @Fawadqasim1

 

[Fawadqasim1]

I will give you a hint the longest range missile
Is for large less manoeuvrable aircrafts like aews tankers transport planes.

It will be impossible to overwhelm s400 type multi layered system with few cms

 

[313ghazi]

Cash is king. We need to try to make the most of our limited resources. We definitely need to have decent SAM coverage to protect against IAF but ABM is not something we can afford right now.

Instead we should focus on stock piling Nasr, Babur, Raad, Abdali and MAR-1. At time of war we should aim to make it rain on IAF FOB as well as key roads, bridges etc. We should look to strike fast and target anything upto 3-400km into enemy territory. Like the Israeli tactics of the 6 day war.

 

[Ultima Thule]

I will give you a hint the longest range missile
Is for large less manoeuvrable aircrafts like aews tankers transport planes.

you're all wrong @Fawadqasim1 Old indian S-300 SAMs is enough for AWACS/Tankers/Transports aircrafts @Fawadqasim1

 

[Fawadqasim1]

I will give you a hint the longest range missile
Is for large less manoeuvrable aircrafts like aews tankers transport planes.

It will be impossible to overwhelm s400 type multi layered system with few cms

you're all wrong @Fawadqasim1 Old indian S-300 SAMs is enough for AWACS/Tankers/Transports aircrafts @Fawadqasim1

Go read something about s400 first

 

[Ultima Thule]

Go read something about s400 first

i already did lots of time before you @Fawadqasim1 , look bro S-400 is to defend SRBM and battlefield BM (ABDALI, SHAHEEN-1/A ghaznavi etc etc), whereas Indian AAD and PAAD is to defend MRBM threats posed by Pakistan like (SHAHEEN-2/ABABEEL/SHAHHEN-3) @Fawadqasim1

Look bro S-400 longest missiles speed is 8 km/sec, its useless to assume that they throw such a high speed missile to subsonic target @Fawadqasim1 when its likely to destroy by much slower MACH-3-4 SAMs systems @Fawadqasim1

 

[khansaheeb]

The solution is simple, just inundate the enemy air space with cheap missiles in the first strike so that the S400s are all used up and then obliterate them with the real ones in the second strike.

 

[CriticalThought]

This depends on where the S-400 system is situated. If it is nearer to the border, then a saturation attack with cruise missiles will do the job. If we can reduce the cost of conventionally loaded cruise missiles, there would be a huge asymmetry. Not just in the cost, but also in reload times. A S-400 battery once expended is very hard to replace. Not so with cruise missiles that can even be fired from air.

If the S-400 is defending some site deep within India, that is where the Ababeel decoys would come into play. But my gut feeling says that if it comes to missiles flying, then nuclear war would have already started. No one is going to wait to find out if an incoming missile is potentially nuclear.

 

[Cash GK]

And sir s400 primarily a Sam system it's BMD capabilities are limited and secondary

It was just an example. A thought provoking one

how about we start working on jamming system.

this where USA lost war in ukraine. europe said to USA you cannot defend yourself how you can defend us.. so we have to work on jamming system as every system has some software and connectivity and it is easy to jamm..

 

[Fawadqasim1]

how about we start working on jamming system.

this where USA lost war in ukraine. europe said to USA you cannot defend yourself how you can defend us.. so we have to work on jamming system as every system has some software and connectivity and it is easy to jamm..

Even if we get the requisite information and modify our libraries accordingly the s400 system is modular and modifiable and extremely versatile so i wont bet my life on it relying solely on jamming would not be a good Idea.

 

[Ultima Thule]

Even if we get the requisite information and modify our libraries accordingly the s400 system is modular and modifiable and extremely versatile so i wont bet my life on it relying solely on jamming would not be a good Idea.

yeah your on the spot @Fawadqasim1 but jamimng is one of the way that how neutralized S-400, we have to go multiple options in mind to disable S-400 @Fawadqasim1