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The U.S. is considering R&D cooperation with the UAE like it did for the Arrow — the first major U.S.-Israel cooperative project that has continuously expanded into the multitier missile defense and interoperability program that exists today. (Israel Aerospace Industries)

DUBAI, United Arab Emirates — U.S. and Emirati defense officials will meet next month in Abu Dhabi to continue discussions on technology security protocols that aim to elevate the level at which Washington can share and ultimately co-develop sensitive technologies with one of its most prized strategic partners in the region.

In interviews here at the Dubai Airshow, U.S. executives supportive of more intimate ties with their Emirati partners cited UAVs, sophisticated munitions and innovative means of coastal defense as examples of potential projects for joint development once the United Arab Emirates codifies and implements a technology security and export control regime.

“We want them to create their own watchdog similar to our DTSA,” Danny Sebright, president of the U.S.-U.A.E. Business Council said of the Pentagon’s Defense Technology Security Administration.


“Of course they will adapt it to their own conditions, but if we’re going to take this partnership to a higher, fifth-generation level, they need a system that really monitors and controls classified information and technology, has the authority to conduct inspections, and makes sure that what we entrust to them for specific purposes will remain that way.”

Sebright, a former Pentagon official who spent two years in Israel during the first Gulf War before serving for a decade as the Israel desk chief in the U.S. Defense Department’s policy shop, said the effort should eventually lead to levels of strategic cooperation similar to what the U.S. had in place with Israel in the late 1980s and early 1990s.

“We really want to see if we can do joint R&D cooperation like the Arrow back in the day,” Sebright said of the first major U.S.-Israel cooperative project that has continuously expanded into the multitier missile defense and interoperability program that exists today.

After a slight pause, Sebright qualified his Israel comparison by saying: “In fact, it won’t be like the joint R&D we do with Israel, where the lion’s share of funding comes from our own budget. Here’s a chance where we can work with the Emiratis on some common problems to the benefit of both militaries and get them to pay a fair share of the bill.”

The U.S. has invested billions of dollars on cooperative missile development programs with Israel and has committed to building upon the foundational Arrow program and its offshoots with annual spending of $500 million over the coming decade.

In a Nov. 12 dinner gathering of Emirati officials and U.S. government and business leaders, Ellen Lord, U.S. undersecretary of defense for acquisition, technology and logistics, said a defense cooperation agreement signed last May provides the framework for intensified cooperation between the two defense establishments.

“Currently, we are seeing an acceleration in our ties,” she said.

Citing the upcoming biannual meeting in Abu Dhabi, Lord said the high-level forum would address ways the two countries are working to build “technology security protocols and a more robust export control infrastructure” that will allow Washington to sell increasingly sensitive front-line weaponry.

“This institutional development is critical not just for ensuring that advanced U.S. technology we release to our partners remains secure, but it will also benefit the Emiratis as the UAE’s domestic defense industry takes off and becomes a force in the global marketplace,” she said.

Fahad Mohammed Al Mheiri, an executive at the Emirates Defence Industries Company cited indigenous development and production of UAVs, advanced weaponry, naval systems and cyber as sectors for the nation’s long-term industrial goals.

However, in the short-term, Al Mheiri said EDIC was focused on more modest goals of merging disparate companies and capabilities into a truly integrated, cost-effective organization that will be able to serve as the backbone of the UAE industrial base.

Interviewed here at the Dubai Airshow, Al Mheiri said EDIC is legally mandated to be the umbrella organization for cultivating the manufacturing practices, technological capabilities and business culture needed to provide for national industrial needs. “In the world of defense, we have four companies focused on the needs and expectations of our end user, the UAE Armed Forces,” he said. “Right now, those expectations are relatively modest, with a focus on added value and sustainability. But here in the UAE, we always look to the future, and of course increasingly sophisticated indigenous development is part of our plan.”

Steve Bryen, the U.S. official who founded DTSA in 1985 under the Reagan administration, said it makes sense the UAE is being groomed as the second country in the region behind Israel for such intimate cooperation.

“They have been and will be great partners. They are obviously challenged from Iran from the threat of terrorism in all its forms. We share very strong and common interests, and they should be given more capability and responsibility,” he said.

Specifically in regard to a UAE version of DTSA, Bryen said the two sides must put in place clear rules of disclosure and guidelines for export licensing as well as guidelines to maintain long-term controls. “DTSA was always involved as much with disclosure as with export control. People have to be trained properly to understand what is allowed and not allowed; and it must be a system that is empowered to coordinate across all relevant sectors of government and industry,” he said.

He noted that years after such standards and guidelines were instituted with the Israelis, serious concerns remained that slowed or halted the natural progression of strategic cooperation. “The big issue with Israel for many years was China, and that held up the process for an extended period of time. It took many rounds of intense negotiations and corrective measures until those big issues were finally resolved.”

Sebright said that unlike the many knots that had to be untangled with Israel, the UAE has “a zero record of ever giving away U.S. technology or selling it unlawfully.”

“We had some isolated instances of things getting lost in action, but we believe they will be receptive to what needs to be done on our end to allow us to help them build up their defense industrial base,” Sebright said.

In a report published last month by the U.S.-U.A.E. Business Council, Sebright elaborated on three key areas in which the UAE has contributed to U.S. national security interests in the region and beyond:

1. Active partner in U.S.-led coalition operations: While the UAE did not join the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq, it is the only Arab country to have participated with Washington in multilateral operations in six countries, including Somalia, Bosnia-Kosovo, Afghanistan, Libya and the campaign against the Islamic State group in Syria and Iraq.

During the initial air campaign against ISIS, Emerati Air Force pilots ― including the country’s first female pilot, Maj. Mariam al-Mansouri ― carried out more strikes in Syria than any other country besides the U.S.

2. Accommodating host to some 5,000 U.S. forces: Under a newly expanded defense cooperation agreement signed in May, the UAE will continue to provide a home to the U.S. Air Force’s 380th Air Expeditionary Wing at Al Dhafra Air Force Base in Abu Dhabi. Al Dhafra serves as the only overseas base for F-22 jets and is home to U.S. Air Force Central Command’s Air Warfare Center, which operates an integrated air- and missile-defense center, search-and-rescue training, and advanced tactical leadership courses.

As for sea power, two key deep harbor ports — Jebel Ali and Fujairah — will remain accessible U.S. aircraft carriers. In recent years, the UAE has been host to a sizable number of special operations forces from U.S. Central Command.

3. Counterterror Cooperation: Routinized intelligence sharing and a bilateral financial counterterrorism task force heads the list of nonkinetic manifestations of counterterror cooperation. The UAE was first in the region to join the U.S. Customs and Border Protection agency’s Container Security Initiative, allowing U.S. and Emirati officials to work together inside Emirati ports to inspect U.S.-bound containers. Similar arrangements are in place with the U.S. Department of Energy to improve detection of nuclear materials in cargo containers, and with the U.S. State Department to halt shipments associated with weapons of mass destruction.

The two countries also operate a pre-clearance program that allows inspections of U.S.-bound commercial passengers at Abu Dhabi International Airport prior to departure. This multifaceted counterterror program has been credited with foiling a number of terror plots, including a 2010 plan by al-Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula to send explosives into the U.S. via cargo planes. Finally, Abu Dhabi in recent years has helped Washington reduce terror suspects held at Guantanamo Bay by agreeing to take custody of several Yemeni and Afghan detainees.

https://www.defensenews.com/digital...mpd-tie-up-with-uae-based-on-us-israel-model/

Does this mean that the F-35 is a done deal..since it goes much beyond it!?
So much for "kill switch":lol:
 
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The troika getting shaped finally
 
Don't get target fixated, look at the whole picture ;)
I did look at the whole picture which says that there will be a very close cooperation in R&D.. it led me to think about the F-35 as the closed start..:lol::angel:
 
Don't get target fixated, look at the whole picture ;)
Is it true that the UAE is not happy with the F35 deal, because of it's capability to independently send reports to the US, and as such this time around there are more strings attached?
 
Is it true that the UAE is not happy with the F35 deal, because of it's capability to independently send reports to the US, and as such this time around there are more strings attached?
That is not possible, the whole article is about securing the sensitive materials that will be shared with the UAE.. and it is up to the UAE to find a way to do that.. the US proposes something like their own legislation and control mechanisms as a benchmark..
 
Is it true that the UAE is not happy with the F35 deal, because of it's capability to independently send reports to the US, and as such this time around there are more strings attached?
That is not possible, the whole article is about securing the sensitive materials that will be shared with the UAE.. and it is up to the UAE to find a way to do that.. the US proposes something like their own legislation and control mechanisms as a benchmark..


https://www.defensenews.com/digital...mpd-tie-up-with-uae-based-on-us-israel-model/

Does this mean that the F-35 is a done deal..since it goes much beyond it!?
So much for "kill switch":lol:

When chips are manufactured abroad by companies outside of the United States, the problem arises of other sovereign powers using these companies as proxies to penetrate U.S. security by installing killswitches or other malicious content.

To help combat malicious chip content, Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) is working on a tagging device to detect any kind of microchip tampering. There are also other options being explored, namely segregating different parts of the supply chain and completing final assembly of all the parts in a final, secure location.

http://dailycaller.com/2016/06/06/pentagons-most-advanced-spy-chips-to-be-made-by-abu-dhabi/

@MastanKhan @Mangus Ortus Novem Kindly note
 



When chips are manufactured abroad by companies outside of the United States, the problem arises of other sovereign powers using these companies as proxies to penetrate U.S. security by installing killswitches or other malicious content.

To help combat malicious chip content, Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) is working on a tagging device to detect any kind of microchip tampering. There are also other options being explored, namely segregating different parts of the supply chain and completing final assembly of all the parts in a final, secure location.

http://dailycaller.com/2016/06/06/pentagons-most-advanced-spy-chips-to-be-made-by-abu-dhabi/

@MastanKhan @Mangus Ortus Novem Kindly note



My very dear friend,

We both know the level of relationship between the US and UAE. What is fascinating is the fact that despite its small size the UAE has carved a niché for itself in international affairs and is steadily becoming a global player in many unnoticed/pulicised shperes.

The days are long gone of arabs being just customers... the new generation is different ballgame...and is treated differently.

That is why the boys in DC call UAE little Sparta!

Given the strategic scenario I expect a lot more courtship towards KSA/UAE from the global power centres...

I still hold that Q2 next year is going to be a formative time.

You take care,

Mangus
 
Sorry my ignorance... I didn't know that you guys made block-60. What next...Lockheed Martin is yours too?

I'm glad you said this, and showed the world how incredibly ill informed you really are. Thanks!


The UAE invested in the “Desert Falcon’s” development, and the contract reportedly includes royalty fees if other countries buy it.

https://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/the-uaes-f-16-block-60-desert-falcon-fleet-04538/
 
I'm glad you said this, and showed the world how incredibly ill informed you really are. Thanks!


The UAE invested in the “Desert Falcon’s” development, and the contract reportedly includes royalty fees if other countries buy it.

https://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/the-uaes-f-16-block-60-desert-falcon-fleet-04538/
I'm glad UAE invested in that but still it is far cry from doing R&D itself. They paid an external agency / organisation to do it on their behalf and thus under the law of IP ownership, they get royalty so it is different thing. It is like I go and ask a fashion design to design a special apparel for me and I get rights for that particular design.
 
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I'm glad UAE invested in that but still it is far cry from doing R&D itself. They paid an external agency / organisation to do it on their behalf and thus under the law of IP ownership, they get royalty so it is different thing. It is like I go and ask a fashion design to design a special apparel for me and I get rights for that particular design.

You can give silly examples to undermine the technological leap, but that won't change ground realities. Those who actually understand technology, know how big an achievement this is.
 
You can give silly examples to undermine the technological leap, but that won't change ground realities. Those who actually understand technology, know how big an achievement this is.
Clearly you're not a man of science...and thus wasting words like technological leap. You can't fathom what a technological leap is. From one block to another are incremental improvements with better avionics. BTW what is your achievement in that? Lockheed Martin did it and they got you to sponsor their R&D...wow what an achievement...so when is the assembly line shifting to UAE?
 
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Clearly you're not a man of science...and thus wasting words like technological leap. You can't fathom what a technological leap is. From one block to another are incremental improvements with better avionics. BTW what is your achievement in that? Lockheed Martin did it and they got you to sponsor their R&D...wow what an achievement...so when is the assembly line shifting to UAE?
Clearly you are not a military man, hence the nonsensical replies. Keep it up!
 
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