Why is there so much hatred for India in Pakistan?

[VelocuR]

Wow, some Pakistanis doesn't know that India is the responsible for spreading terrorists and suicide bombing into Pakistan cities, please stop watching Bollywood movies. Don't be fooled yourself, illiterate kid.

 

[ranjeet]

First of all no Pakistani will talk like that about mother of his kids. I challange you to find even 1 post.

I think you didn't understood my question to begin with. read my post again slowly and than quote me.

 

[Solomon2]

You want to tell me PR and media doesnt matter? Reaaaaaaaaaaaaaally, is that so?

They matter a lot. Finding OBL living comfortably in Abbottabad after years of Pakistani denials was very bad PR, yes?

BTW ... isn't it that you have been doing all along? Why don't you blame few individuals instead of blaming Iranis or Pakistanis or Lebanese or Turkish?

A self-defined group of people with demonstrably shared characteristics throughout the majority examined suffices at least as the basis of a preliminary judgment on the whole. Whereas in the Hollywood case you're only talking about a handful of Jews involved in the entertainment industry.

Show some good will,stop siding with our adversary and maliging Pakistan, you will start finding friends in Paksitan for sure.

India's long-time ally has been USSR/Russia, not Israel, and Pakistan has had open diplomatic and trade relations with Russia for decades.

I'm not being spiteful or abusive, am I? All my criticism is constructive, yes? So based on my experience today I'm not sure you nor many other Pakistanis would be willing to "see" good will coming from a Zionist. Rather, your hatred is a symptom of the condition I described.

In America there are 93,000 psychologists for a population of 320 million people. In Pakistan there are only 320 psychologists to serve a population of 180 million. Something to think about.

 

[Norwegian]

What they didn't realize, perhaps, was that without a conscience - in the Saudi example, fear of G-d - more religion would serve less as a brake on individuals' transgressions than as a tool to be exploited by the greedy and ambitious.

That is EXACTLY what happened to Pakistani society after Zia-ul-Haq's forced Islamization, or better say, Arabization reforms in Pakistan. He too thought 'more Islam' was the "solution" to eternal problems Pakistani society was facing back in the 80's. What the dictator didn't know was that more Islam was only going to render former practiced Islamic values in society useless. And that's exactly what happened after Zia's downfall. We got thousands more madrassas, mosques, Islam preaching centres around the country while collective Islamic ethics and deeds vanished from our once peaceful and prosperous country

There is a very firm distinction between Jews and Zionists. For us, Jews are people of book who should be respected and protected, where as Zionists are political terrorists, creating havoc in the world.

That's a funny argument in case you didn't know there is not ONLY one kind of Zionists. Here are some for you to read further on:

• Religious Zionists (oldest form of Zionism,where religious Jews longed for their roots in Palestine. Some religious Zionists are today even anti-Israel as they believe on Jewish Messiah can establish Israel)
• Leftist-Marxist-Socialist Zionists (First political settlers along with religious Zionists formed independent Jewish communities in Palestine. These Zionists are extremely pro-Palestine and some are even pro-Hamas )
• Revisionist Zionists (Zionists who are dreamers of Greater Israel from the Nile river to Euphrates. We Muslims believe all Zionists are revisionists, when they are a tiny minority )
• Rightwing, conservative Zionists (Zionists that broke away from more extreme revisionist Zionists. They are currently in majority and power in Israel.
• Then there are liberal Zionists, fascist Zionists and many more. Ask @500 to help you out on this one

BTW ... isn't it that you have been doing all along? Why don't you blame few individuals instead of blaming Iranis or Pakistanis or Lebanese or Turkish? Or Germans for that matter?

Are we discussing Jewish, Israeli issues here?

Would love you POV on this one ... or even @Norwegian. There are plenty of mixed marriages and I just want to know their kids are perceived or how they feel when such a topic comes up.

Not part of this thread

Since you already believe 100% with a Bharati I don't think you are worthy enough to be answered for this question. By the way do include Amit Shah in PTI. You guys need criminals like him.

I don't agree 100 % with a Bharti unless his / her points are rationally, logically and critically justified. I get you hate PTI because PTI is not anti-India like conservative PMLN or socialist PPP?

Wow, some Pakistanis doesn't know that India is the responsible for spreading terrorists and suicide bombing into Pakistan cities, please stop watching Bollywood movies. Don't be fooled yourself, illiterate kid.

Troll

 

[coffee_cup]

... Rather, your hatred is a symptom of the condition I described....
...
In America there are 93,000 psychologists for a population of 320 million people. ...

I strongly suggest you visit one of those, before you baselessly start accusing someone of hatred.

And please create a dedicated thread if you want to discuss Pakistan-Israel relationships. Thanks.

 

[Areesh]

I don't agree 100 % with a Bharti unless his / her points are rationally, logically and critically justified. I get you hate PTI because PTI is not anti-India like conservative PMLN or socialist PPP?

So you find rationality in the posts of bharati who considers Amit shah a leader and whines on defence.pk for the release of Lakhwi? It means you are not rational yourself. PTI is as anti India as PML(N) or PPP. Hatred for India is one force which unites Pakistanis of all background. Who told you that PTI is not anti India? Itnai dinon sai apna bhi waqt zaya kia PTI kai peechai.

 

[ranjeet]

That is EXACTLY what happened to Pakistani society after Zia-ul-Haq's forced Islamization, or better say, Arabization reforms in Pakistan. He too thought 'more Islam' was the "solution" to eternal problems Pakistani society was facing back in the 80's. What the dictator didn't know was that more Islam was only going to render former practiced Islamic values in society useless. And that's exactly what happened after Zia's downfall. We got thousands more madrassas, mosques, Islam preaching centres around the country while collective Islamic ethics and deeds vanished from our once peaceful and prosperous country


That's a funny argument in case you didn't know there is not ONLY one kind of Zionists. Here are some for you to read further on:

• Religious Zionists (oldest form of Zionism,where religious Jews longed for their roots in Palestine. Some religious Zionists are today even anti-Israel as they believe on Jewish Messiah can establish Israel)
• Leftist-Marxist-Socialist Zionists (First political settlers along with religious Zionists formed independent Jewish communities in Palestine. These Zionists are extremely pro-Palestine and some are even pro-Hamas )
• Revisionist Zionists (Zionists who are dreamers of Greater Israel from the Nile river to Euphrates. We Muslims believe all Zionists are revisionists, when they are a tiny minority )
• Rightwing, conservative Zionists (Zionists that broke away from more extreme revisionist Zionists. They are currently in majority and power in Israel.
• Then there are liberal Zionists, fascist Zionists and many more. Ask @500 to help you out on this one

Are we discussing Jewish, Israeli issues here?


Not part of this thread


I don't agree 100 % with a Bharti unless his / her points are rationally, logically and critically justified. I get you hate PTI because PTI is not anti-India like conservative PMLN or socialist PPP?


Troll

youse a tough nut to crack but if you ever felt like describe what I asked for .. do tag me. Barring personal experience of course if any.

 

[Solomon2]

I strongly suggest you visit one of those, before you baselessly start accusing someone of hatred.

Is that really a constructive comment?

 

[TankMan]

LOL. It was Off Topic but there you gave me the best laugh of this year. Thanks alot, sir!

It wasn't meant to be funny sir, but I admit it did sound like I was wearing a tin-foil hat and holding a shotgun while typing that

 

[ghilzai]

Purely Racial.

 

[airmarshal]

You are wrong @Norwegian. India bashing is not even an issue in Pakistan. Have you ever seen their mainstream channels? How much hate they spew against us. In what tone they talk about us? Compare this to our mainstream media. Same is with their print media.

You have opened a good troll thread. Good luck controlling it.

 

[Norwegian]

So you find rationality in the posts of bharati who considers Amit shah a leader and whines on defence.pk for the release of Lakhwi? It means you are not rational yourself. PTI is as anti India as PML(N) or PPP. Hatred for India is one force which unites Pakistanis of all background. Who told you that PTI is not anti India? Itnai dinon sai apna bhi waqt zaya kia PTI kai peechai.

I have not checked his other posts regarding Lakhwi, and I don't even care about what he has posted over there as this issue doesn't interests me. As I said earlier above, even the dumbest troll of PDF posts something rational, logical and valid on a subject, I will admire him, ignoring all the trollish he / she posted earlier. This is how I view people with their day-to-day contributions and not judging them by their past.
Regarding PTI being anti-India is as foolish as it can be. After Wagah Border blase, Shah Mehmood Qureshi, vice chairman of PTI accidently stepped into India during a handshake with "enemy" on the other side. Also IK has admired Modi's nationalistic and patriotic policies for his nation. Same goes for Sheikh Rasheed. PTI is the least anti-India party you would find out there as IK is for open-trade and normalization of relations with our most LARAKO neighbor

You are wrong @Norwegian. India bashing is not even an issue in Pakistan. Have you ever seen their mainstream channels? How much hate they spew against us. In what tone they talk about us? Compare this to our mainstream media. Same is with their print media.

Mainstream channels show nothing what public feel on the streets. When I was in Norway, I thought TV channels are showing dark reality where entire country is projected as a hellhole. Now I have lived here for weeks and see things all clear that Pakistan is nothing like our News Channels portray it.

You have opened a good troll thread. Good luck controlling it.

Thanks. We will manage it fine

 

[Eurock]

pokin my nose. Indians do blame pakistan for terrorism in india. other than that indians never hold pakistan responsible for other indian problems such as poverty, corruption, economic crisis, mal nutrition, sanitation issues, illeteracy, bad bollywood films, funny accent, bad weather, earthquakes, laluparsaad, stupid statements from right wingers, crowded trains, dirty streets, border issues with china and bd etc. india es solamente responsavel para estws problemas.

 

[hussain0216]

They are hindus, why wouldn't we hate them

We have historical issues and grievance with them including occupation of Kashmir to justify our hatred of them

Same goes for Israel

Al Aqsa and Jerusalem hold a position in muslim history their occupation and subjugation of the local muslim population by jews gets israel deserved hatred not only from Pakistanis but all Muslim's

 

[coffee_cup]

pokin my nose. Indians do blame pakistan for terrorism in india. other than that indians never hold pakistan responsible for other indian problems such as poverty, corruption, economic crisis, mal nutrition, sanitation issues, illeteracy, bad bollywood films, funny accent, bad weather, earthquakes, laluparsaad, stupid statements from right wingers, crowded trains, dirty streets, border issues with china and bd etc. india es solamente responsavel para estws problemas.

Are you sure about that?

I am afraid Swami G would not agree with that.