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U.K., U.S. Spy Program Hacked Into Video Feeds on Israeli Drones, Fighter Jets

What are the chances that PAF F-16's video feeds are being hacked as well?

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Matter of concern, but Q raised earlier, I hope till now it must be investigated thoroughly by PAF.
If this was the case, how come country goes for new F16 again.
 
all MLU upgraded F-16 in Turkey free of these type of switches and PAF working on it with Turkey to remove these bugs.
 
where Pakistan agreed for kill switches a.k.a Encrypted MILDS/EW/S
It mean our F16 are Still not in our hands.....
How many aircrafts have this "problem"'...?
 
GCHQ never fails to impress.
Many people will be surprised to know that in terms of capabilities,skill, tech,experience and world reach, our GCHQ and spies are almost at par with the U.S. :agree::D

If they spy on Israel then imagine how much they must be spending on spying efforts on Pakistan. Raymond Davis was caught red handed with an entire contact book on his phone full of terrorist contacts. I must say I am not surprised. US believes every other country is their personal property and as wikileaks revealed they have a massive spying program where they don't even leave diplomats.

Lol ALL COUNTRIES spy on others, the only difference is that a select few have more capabilities than others. Dont blame the player blame the game.:big_boss:
 
It mean our F16 are Still not in our hands.....
How many aircrafts have this "problem"'...?

Block-52's and Most probably all the MLU's because they are compatible with these devices. It is not Pakistan specific.All the F-16 users adhere to these restrictions as per the Americans.
 
Who says there is no evidence? Have you read leaked diplomatic cables where Pakistan agreed for kill switches a.k.a Encrypted MILDS/EW/Sensitive PODS which will stop working if America doesnt provide new encryption keys after specified time.
No I haven't, I can't seem to understand that during the Nuclear sanctions, why didn't America bother "killing" our F-16s?.
 
No I haven't, I can't seem to understand that during the Nuclear sanctions, why didn't America bother "killing" our F-16s?.

Back then such concepts and tech didnt exist of kill switches. Post 9/11 America began to implement such measures.
 
Back then such concepts and tech didnt exist of kill switches. Post 9/11 America began to implement such measures.

And we simply handed over our jets to America, and said "hey rig this up"?. Why didn't we shift to other countries selling jets? Why stick with American aircrafts?. I bet the Chinese and the Russians would've been eager to get a new customer. Our top brass is simply not that incompetent.
And the leaked sources. Do you have any prints of them. And something guaranteeing that their sources are authentic?.
As in, a hard evidence.
(Mind you this topic has always had me curious, and to this day; no one presented evidence enough to change my stance.)
 
And we simply handed over our jets to America, and said "hey rig this up"?. Why didn't we shift to other countries selling jets? Why stick with American aircrafts?. I bet the Chinese and the Russians would've been eager to get a new customer. Our top brass is simply not that incompetent.
And the leaked sources. Do you have any prints of them. And something guaranteeing that their sources are authentic?.
As in, a hard evidence.
(Mind you this topic has always had me curious, and to this day; no one presented evidence enough to change my stance.)

https://defence.pk/threads/pakistan-f-16-discussions-2.15226/page-607#post-7651365
 
nothing is beyond our reach

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The program, code-named 'Anarchist,' monitored strikes on Gaza and watched out for a possible strike on Iran, The Intercept reports. Israeli source downplays report.

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Archive photo of Israeli Heron TP drone, also known locally as the Eitan.AP

When Israel launched airstrikes on targets in Gaza in January 2008, American and British spies had a bird's-eye view from the aircraft, as part of a classified program meant to keep tabs on Israeli military operations, The Intercept reported Friday.
According to the investigative report, American and British intelligence secretly hacked into video feeds captured by Israeli drones and fighter jets in order to monitor strikes on Gaza, watch out for a possible strike on Iran and monitor Israel's drone technology.
An Israeli source speaking to Haaretz downplayed the report, saying that the revelations weren't "very dramatic."
"Our defense operations weren't harmed," the source said. "It goes without saying that foreign intelligence elements in the Middle East detect our operations, just like we detect the operations of other states in the region."

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One of the images, showing an Israeli drone, provided by The Intercept. Screenshot from The Intercept

The classified program, code-named "Anarchist," was run by the U.K.’s Government Communications Headquarters in collaboratin with the U.S. National Security Agency, and targeted Israeli drones from a Cyprus mountaintop. The report is based on documents released by former NSA contractor Edward Snowden.
The internal GCHQ documents, The Intercept said, included still images from footage recorded by drone cameras, including a series, collected in 2009 and 2010, that appears to show drones carrying missiles. Earlier this month, German Defense Minister Ursula von der Leyen announced plans to lease Heron TP drones from the Israel Aerospace Industries, noting the UAVs can be armed.
According to the documents, analysts first collected encrypted video signals from the Troodos mountain rage in Cyprus in 1998. The spy program also targeted drones by Syria and by Hezbollah in Lebanon, although the bulk of the program focused on Israel.
skip - A map showing the Troodos Mountains.

In 2008, GCHQ ordered Anarchist technicians to monitor drones flying over the Golan Heights, the West Bank and Gaza, as well as Israel’s borders with Lebanon and Syria, among other "areas of interest."
“This access is indispensable for maintaining an understanding of Israeli military training and operations and thus an insight to possible future developments in the region,” a GCHQ report from 2008 is quoted as saying. “In times of crisis this access is critical and one of the only avenues to provide up to the minute information and support to U.S. and Allied operations in the area."
National Infrastructure Minister Yuval Steinitz, who previously served as minister of intelligence, told Army Radio on Friday that the report didn't come as a surprise.
"We know the Americans spy on the entire world, including us, including their allies," he said. "Nevertheless, it's disappointing, in part due to the fact that we haven't been spying, collecting intelligence or decoding American code for decades."
The latest revelation joins a series of reports on espionage between Israel and the U.S. in recent years. Last month, the Wall Street Journal reported that the U.S. maintained surveillance on Israeli officials, including Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu during nuclear negotiations with Iran. According the report, President Barack Obama ordered the surveillance, which received congressional support.
Last June, the WSJ reported that a computer spy virus believed to be linked to Israel targeted three European hotels just before each hosted negotiations between Iran and world powers over the Islamic Republic's nuclear program. In 2013, leaked documents revealed the U.S. and U.K. hacked into senior Israeli officials' email accounts in 2009, including former Prime Minister Ehud Olmert and then-Defense Minister Ehud Barak.

read more: http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.700252

First public photos of Israeli armed drones ( probably spike and/or hellfire missiles)
Many people will be surprised to know that in terms of capabilities,skill, tech,experience and world reach, our GCHQ and spies are almost at par with the U.S. :agree::D



Lol ALL COUNTRIES spy on others, the only difference is that a select few have more capabilities than others. Dont blame the player blame the game.:big_boss:
nothing is beyond our reach

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I'm sure Israel is spying on many countries too, including Britain and US :-)
 
It says quote "The Pakistanis do not fully understand our requirements for sharing encrypted devices and need to be reassured that the aircraft will still fly without the cryptokeys. A briefing for Air Marshal Tanvir and/or his staff could resolve this misunderstanding."
Thus, the cryptokeys do not, hamper the ability and/or functionality of the craft.
Now, Data Links as said later in the article, the clearance of Link-16 and various DRFMs (what many they maybe; whatsoever)
Digital Radio Frequency Memory (DRFM) ---------------------------

16. (S) Pakistan was previously cleared for separate elements of DRFM; now they need approval for the whole package. USAF supports immediate release, but the Defense Technology Security Administration appears to have concerns. SAF/IA is meeting this week with DTSA to review the issue. 17. (C) Recommendation: This decision process needs to be accelerated. 18. (C) The National Disclosure Policy Committee will return to Pakistan in December to perform a security survey to confirm adequate Pakistani protection of U.S. classified information. Tanvir is eager to participate in this survey and is working to meet the security restrictions as stated in the LOA. We should make it clear to Tanvir that we can speed up the approval process of Link-16 and DRFM with enhanced cooperation on this survey.
The last sentence says it clearly and Quote: "We should make it clear to Tanvir that we can speed up the approval process of Link-16 and DRFM with enhanced cooperation on this survey. "
So, is there a problem?.
 
First public photos of Israeli armed drones ( probably spike and/or hellfire missiles)



I'm sure Israel is spying on many countries too, including Britain and US :-)
it looks like were spying on you guys too, and it seems were doing a good job of it too, shalom .
 
It says quote "The Pakistanis do not fully understand our requirements for sharing encrypted devices and need to be reassured that the aircraft will still fly without the cryptokeys. A briefing for Air Marshal Tanvir and/or his staff could resolve this misunderstanding."
Thus, the cryptokeys do not, hamper the ability and/or functionality of the craft.
Now, Data Links as said later in the article, the clearance of Link-16 and various DRFMs (what many they maybe; whatsoever)
Digital Radio Frequency Memory (DRFM) ---------------------------

16. (S) Pakistan was previously cleared for separate elements of DRFM; now they need approval for the whole package. USAF supports immediate release, but the Defense Technology Security Administration appears to have concerns. SAF/IA is meeting this week with DTSA to review the issue. 17. (C) Recommendation: This decision process needs to be accelerated. 18. (C) The National Disclosure Policy Committee will return to Pakistan in December to perform a security survey to confirm adequate Pakistani protection of U.S. classified information. Tanvir is eager to participate in this survey and is working to meet the security restrictions as stated in the LOA. We should make it clear to Tanvir that we can speed up the approval process of Link-16 and DRFM with enhanced cooperation on this survey.
The last sentence says it clearly and Quote: "We should make it clear to Tanvir that we can speed up the approval process of Link-16 and DRFM with enhanced cooperation on this survey. "
So, is there a problem?.

Cryptokeys expire and need to be renewed. The aircraft will fly but many systems will not work.
 
Cryptokeys expire and need to be renewed. The aircraft will fly but many systems will not work.
They may "expire" but cannot be expired, can they?, it's not like a button, one will press and poof the F -16 starts messing about.
Any clue on the time frame for "cryptokeys" to be renewed?.
 

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