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An analysis of my end on the KAI FA-50. Don't know about you, but before writing this, I was seriously underestimating this aircraft.

Keep an Eye Out for South Korea’s FA-50 Golden Eagle

FA-50, the fighter derivative of the increasingly popular T-50 trainer is looking very promising

01 December 2015

By Bilal Khan

In the world of modern day fighter aircraft, there is a market that is entering a phase of maturation. This is not the market of up and coming so-called “5th generation” fighters such as the F-35 Lightening II or FC-31 Gyrfalcon, which are only just entering service or are in the late stages of their initial development cycle (respectively). Nor is this the market of venerable and mature modern day fighters such as the F-16 and MiG-29. Rather, it is the market composed of new lightweight but relatively very capable and versatile fighters in the form of the JAS-39 Gripen, JF-17 Thunder, Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) or Tejas, and FA-50 Golden Eagle. Although the first three are well-known to a lot of enthusiasts, the FA-50 Golden Eagle is perhaps the most unsung and uncelebrated, especially given the surge of export orders it has garnered and the capabilities it is on-track to acquiring in the coming years.

The FA-50 is the fighter derivative of the T-50. The T-50 was developed by Korea Aerospace Industries (KAI) with the help of Lockheed Martin. The T-50 conducted its maiden flight in 2002, and was envisaged as a ‘lead-in fighter trainer’ (LIFT) platform which could be used for advanced jet and fighter conversion training. The Golden Eagle platform is powered by a General Electric F404 turbofan, which offers 78.7kN of thrust with the afterburner on; the F404 is also used by the LCA Tejas and the JAS-39 A/B and C/D (albeit as a licensed Volvo-built version).

It would be a disservice to label the FA-50 as simply being capable of light attack and air defence roles, for KAI has actually committed to developing the FA-50 into a genuine fighter solution. A good start would be to simply examine the FA-50’s maximum payload, which sits at around 3700kg split across seven weapon stations or hardpoints. It is not very far off from the JF-17 (~3700kg), so it is clear that the Golden Eagle fighter platform is directly comparable (and this is not the only area where it is in close proximity to fighters such as the Thunder and Tejas).

The FA-50 uses the EL/M-2032 radar developed by the Israeli firm ELTA (Flight Global). The EL/M-2032 is a solid multi-mission radar capable of detecting and tracking aerial targets at a maximum range of around 150km (likely 5m2 RCS). That kind of capability basically enables the FA-50 be a proper air defence solution, one capable of effectively using beyond visual range air-to-air missiles (BVRAAM), which is what KAI brought to life by integrating the AIM-120 Advanced Medium Range Air-to-Air Missile (AMRAAM) to the FA-50. It is not out of the realm of possibility to one day see the FA-50 equipped with high-off boresight (HOBS) within visual range air-to-air missiles (WVRAAM): Potentially the AIM-9X? Perhaps the Rafael (another Israeli firm) Python 4? Maybe the Denel-Mectron A-Darter (which is being considered by Pakistan for use on the JF-17 Block-III)?

It is possible that the FA-50 could also be offered with the Rafael Sky Shield electronics warfare (EW) suite. Given the cooperation seen between KAI and ELTA thus far, this is not a surprise (though its release would be conditional on the customer as well, it is unlikely Israel would sell it to just anyone). This would enable the Golden Eagle to engage in electronic jamming against radars. This is a complete solution, one that even includes digital radio frequency memory (DRFM), which basically allows the EW suite to copy a received radio signal and then retransmit it. In EW and electronics counter measures (ECM), this is a very important capability to have, especially when one is against capable EW emitters (which try jamming radars with their own radio signal emissions.

But in the end, the above still may not be enough to convince skeptics. “How could a platform designed as a trainer be a fully operable fighter?” The physical specifications aside (which are comparable with the JF-17 and LCA), it is possible – if not very likely – that KAI and Lockheed Martin designed the Golden Eagle to be a relatively affordable multirole fighter platform for countries unable or unwilling to acquire medium-weight platforms such as the F-16. With that in mind, they equipped with FA-50 with the subsystems necessary to stand, toe-to-toe, with its competitors (e.g. JF-17).

The ELTA EL/M-2032 radar and AMRAAM given the FA-50 solid air-to-air capabilities (it includes data-linking as well, which would be useful for air forces in possession of network-centric capabilities), but what about air-to-surface? Well, the FA-50 can carry Joint Direct Attack Munition (JDAM)-kit equipped Mk-8x series bombs. So one can obviously conclude that the jet is capable of deploying satellite-aided precision guided bombs (PGB). The FA-50 is evidently even marketed with the Sniper Advanced Targeting Pod, clearly indicating that it is capable of carrying laser-guided bombs (LGB) as well. Besides PGB and LGB, the FA-50 can even be equipped with the AGM-65 Maverick air-to-surface missile as well as a guided sub-munitions dispenser (i.e. CBU-97).

Granted, there is one area where the FA-50 has yet to be equipped for, and that is stand-off range air-to-surface missions, such as anti-ship warfare (AShW). Fret not, South Korea is working on that as well. There has been recent talk to develop a lighter and smaller version of the MBDA-Saab KEPD 350 air-launched cruise missile (ALCM) for use on the FA-50. In fact, it is possible that this new KEPD-variant could even double as an anti-ship missile (AShM), thus serving as a single source stand-off strike solution. It is not uncommon, especially in recent years, to see ALCMs double as AShMs.

Taken together, the FA-50 is quite the compelling solution, especially for (or perhaps limited to) countries with stable and comprehensive relations with the Western world (given how deeply-linked the FA-50 is to various Western vendors). Of course, not every FA-50 buyer would exercise or be able to access every extensible aspect of the fighter, though a handful might. Thus far the FA-50 has won export orders from Iraq and the Philippines (Indonesia and Thailand selected the T-50 LIFT system).

Nonetheless, the Republic of Korea Air Force (ROKAF) is on the right track with this platform, and it has turned out to be a solid successor for its F-5A/B Tiger II. It will be worthwhile seeing how KAI plays around with the airframe design, especially as the question of integrating an active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar enters the discussion. Could we perhaps one day see an enlarged and more powerful FA-50 variant? Maybe.
 
KAI FA-50 is a trainer and light attack aircraft how you can campare a trainer with fighter jet.
Because the FA-50 has about the same max payload and number of weapon stations as the JF-17. Its radar, the EL/M-2032 also boasts enough range to make the FA-50 a proper BVR fighter. The thing is also capable of precision strike and is on track to getting an ALCM of its own (a lighter version of KEPD 350).
 
Because the FA-50 has about the same max payload and number of weapon stations as the JF-17. Its radar, the EL/M-2032 also boasts enough range to make the FA-50 a proper BVR fighter. The thing is also capable of precision strike and is on track to getting an ALCM of its own (a lighter version of KEPD 350).
What about engine thrust, speed and altitude? no doubt Kai-50 is an advance trainer but comparing with a proper fighter jet a bit exaggerated thing.
@Windjammer
Your views
 
it will not be a threat bcas of following reason
-FC-1/JF17 was developed in mind for these market which cant afford or are not allowed to buy western aeroplanes .
-FC-1/JF17 is backed by Chinese and its influence can lead to many sales .
-FC-1/JF17 i dont follow the development cycle for KAI FA-50 but last thing i know is it is LIFT and integrating all these goodies will result in higher cost and even to extent that it might starts to cannibalizes F16 sales from which it is evolved .
 
KAI FA-50 is a trainer and light attack aircraft how you can campare a trainer with fighter jet.
KAI FA-50 is a trainer and light attack aircraft how you can campare a trainer with fighter jet.
FA-50 is not trainer. T-50 and TA-50s are. FA-50 is developed to be a full flagged light multirole aircraft with improved engine, radar range, internal fuel, weapons etc.
 
Well, I doubt This Fighter can be even be even remotely a Threat, let alone the thought of Comparision.

Why ? Simple > After all It Lacks DSI.

@GURU DUTT

jf-17_thunder_dsi_intake_01.jpg
 
What about engine thrust, speed and altitude? no doubt Kai-50 is an advance trainer but comparing with a proper fighter jet a bit exaggerated thing.
@Windjammer
Your views
It uses the same class of engine as RD-93 on JF-17, and is being considered for an uprate via EJ-200 or F414. Max speed isn't far off either. F/A-50 is basically a cross between JF-17 and LCA, it takes the best of both. BTW FA-50 even secured two proper sales (Philippines and Iraq).
 
Well, I doubt This Fighter can be even be even remotely a Threat, let alone the thought of Comparision.

Why ? Simple > After all It Lacks DSI.

@GURU DUTT

jf-17_thunder_dsi_intake_01.jpg
who cares about FA-50 but well even if we forget DSI what is interesting is that article for the first time clearli states that ELM-2032 has a tracking range 150Km for a 5m2 RCS target (alleged RCS of JF-17 loaded with 4 AtA missiles and a external feul tank) and since we also have the same on Tejas hence prooved tejas too has the same tracking range which busts pakistani fanboys claim that tejas has a tracking range of 80 km while there JF-17 has a range of 130Km for 5m2 target meaning a tejas can shoot and scoot on a PAF fighter even before it is able to launch its missiles against tejas :dance3:
 
@Anyone or @Everyone .... What is the premise of the all the JF-17 DSI jokes? What am I missing ?
 
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@Anyone or @Everyone .... What is the premise of the all the JF-17 DSI jokes? What am I missing ?
salaam saheb ji the joke is that in past there were many pakistani members who thought LCA is not small RCS as JF-17 as JF-17 has DSI tech which automaticaly makes it almost stealth which is hilarious to say the least and there are many who still beleve in this logic .... funny na :sarcastic:

hence some indians love to crack jokes about it but im not one of them now i have started to admire DSI .... sachhi :angel:
 

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