KAI revives the idea of the F-50, an FA-50 derivative fighter aircraft

[Indos]

KAI revives the idea of the F-50, an FA-50 derivative fighter aircraft​

KAI proposed its single-seat fighter as a replacement for the several dozen F-5 Tiger IIs still in use in the ROKAF, but to finance the development of the F-50, the South Korean Ministry of Defense was required to commit the necessary funds. But this did not happen, as every fraction of the available budget was directed to the development of the KF-21 Boramae.

New opportunity for the F-50?​

Kang Gu-young, CEO of Korea Aerospace Industries, officiated at a ceremony at the company’s headquarters in Sacheon, where he outlined his «Global KAI 2050 -Beyond Aerospace-» business strategy, which he believes KAI can become the seventh largest aerospace company in the world.

Kang Gu-young, Consejero Delegado de Korea Aerospace Industries. Foto: KAI


This strategy, according to Kang Gu-young, will represent a quantum leap forward for the company, based on innovation, investment in R&D and the recruitment and training of human talent.

Another of the strategies to be followed is to reduce its dependence on Korean government procurement contracts, to focus on the export potential of its products. It is from here that the possibility of the development of the F-50 arises.

The successful export of the FA-50 to Poland through close cooperation with the government and a quick response in a rapidly changing security environment confirmed the potential of the European market, which KAI had previously considered inaccessible for its products. This shift is further evidenced by Airbus Defence & Space’s approach to the Korean firm to promote the FA-50 in Western European countries, burying the AFJT, its own advanced supersonic trainer/light fighter project, along the way.

Future new capabilities of the FA-50


Building on the success of the FA-50, Kang Gu-young wants to establish beachheads in the European, North American, African and Middle Eastern markets (possibly through Egypt), while strengthening KAI’s presence in the Southeast Asian and South American markets.

Versions of the FA-50 tailored to the particular requirements of each export customer will be promoted, including the possibility of developing the F-50 light combat single-seat version. What was not made clear is whether the development is dependent on a potential customer financing the project, or whether KAI plans to pay for it out of its own pocket.



There are hundreds of MIG-21, F-5, A-37, A-4, Alpha Jet, L-39 and other old trainer or fighter/light attack aircraft models to be replaced by a new technologically advanced and more economical to operate platform, generating a potential market of between 800 to 1,000 of the FA-50 and F-50 category jets, of which KAI intends to take the lion’s share. And every FA-50 customer is a potential customer for the KF-21, and other military and civilian products of the South Korean aerospace company, which eventually intends to compete with the giants of Boeing and Airbus.

KAI revives the idea of the F-50, an FA-50 derivative fighter aircraft

During a ceremony at Korea Aerospace Industries (KAI) headquarters announcing the company's development strategy through 2050, the company's CEO discussed fut

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KAI revives the idea of the F-50, an FA-50 derivative fighter aircraft​

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KAI proposed its single-seat fighter as a replacement for the several dozen F-5 Tiger IIs still in use in the ROKAF, but to finance the development of the F-50, the South Korean Ministry of Defense was required to commit the necessary funds. But this did not happen, as every fraction of the available budget was directed to the development of the KF-21 Boramae.

New opportunity for the F-50?​

Kang Gu-young, CEO of Korea Aerospace Industries, officiated at a ceremony at the company’s headquarters in Sacheon, where he outlined his «Global KAI 2050 -Beyond Aerospace-» business strategy, which he believes KAI can become the seventh largest aerospace company in the world.

Kang Gu-young, Consejero Delegado de Korea Aerospace Industries. Foto: KAI


This strategy, according to Kang Gu-young, will represent a quantum leap forward for the company, based on innovation, investment in R&D and the recruitment and training of human talent.

Another of the strategies to be followed is to reduce its dependence on Korean government procurement contracts, to focus on the export potential of its products. It is from here that the possibility of the development of the F-50 arises.

The successful export of the FA-50 to Poland through close cooperation with the government and a quick response in a rapidly changing security environment confirmed the potential of the European market, which KAI had previously considered inaccessible for its products. This shift is further evidenced by Airbus Defence & Space’s approach to the Korean firm to promote the FA-50 in Western European countries, burying the AFJT, its own advanced supersonic trainer/light fighter project, along the way.

Future new capabilities of the FA-50


Building on the success of the FA-50, Kang Gu-young wants to establish beachheads in the European, North American, African and Middle Eastern markets (possibly through Egypt), while strengthening KAI’s presence in the Southeast Asian and South American markets.

Versions of the FA-50 tailored to the particular requirements of each export customer will be promoted, including the possibility of developing the F-50 light combat single-seat version. What was not made clear is whether the development is dependent on a potential customer financing the project, or whether KAI plans to pay for it out of its own pocket.



There are hundreds of MIG-21, F-5, A-37, A-4, Alpha Jet, L-39 and other old trainer or fighter/light attack aircraft models to be replaced by a new technologically advanced and more economical to operate platform, generating a potential market of between 800 to 1,000 of the FA-50 and F-50 category jets, of which KAI intends to take the lion’s share. And every FA-50 customer is a potential customer for the KF-21, and other military and civilian products of the South Korean aerospace company, which eventually intends to compete with the giants of Boeing and Airbus.

KAI revives the idea of the F-50, an FA-50 derivative fighter aircraft

During a ceremony at Korea Aerospace Industries (KAI) headquarters announcing the company's development strategy through 2050, the company's CEO discussed fut

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I think the main issue is price

These light fighters would cost nearly as much as an f16 a bigger more capable jet

Kai 21 on the other hand is more promising it offers f35 like capabilities but at much less price

 

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I think the main issue is price

These light fighters would cost nearly as much as an f16 a bigger more capable jet

Kai 21 on the other hand is more promising it offers f35 like capabilities but at much less price

???

Unless you're looking at third hand F-16 a brand new F-16V would cost as much as 2 FA-50

 

[Indos]

Biden administration approves $4.2B F-16 sale to Jordan​

By Stephen Losey
Feb 4, 2022


The Biden administration said Thursday it has cleared a possible sale of as many as 16 F-16 fighters and related equipment to Jordan worth up to $4.21 billion.

The State Department also approved a possible additional sale to the United Arab Emirates of spares and repair parts for air defense systems that would bring its value up to $65 million, as well as a possible $23.7 million sale to Saudi Arabia for data and voice communication systems. The Defense Security Cooperation Agency notified Congress on Thursday of the possible foreign military sales.

Jordan wants to buy as many as 12 F-16C and four F-16D fighters, all Block 70s, as well as 21 F100 engines, either made by General Electric or Pratt & Whitney, five of which would be spare engines. Lockheed Martin in Greenville, South Carolina, will be the principal contractor for this sale.

The arms package would also include numerous weapons and systems to arm the fighters, such as six AN/AAQ-33 Sniper Advanced Targeting Pods, 72 LAU-129 missile rail launchers, 21 M61A1 Vulcan cannons, 100 KMU-556 Joint Direct Attack Munition tail kits for 2,000-pound GBU-31 bombs, 102 KMU-572 JDAM tail kits for 500-pound laser JDAM GBU-54 bombs, 200 MK-84 or BLU-117 or equivalent bomb bodies, 204 MK-82 or BLU-111 or equivalent bomb bodies, ammunition, smoke flares and flare cartridges.

Jordan also wants to buy 31 Link 16 Low-Volume Terminals for both aircraft and ground stations, radars, mission computers, GPS navigation systems with anti-spoofing modules and multiple other pieces of equipment.

The sale would mean fewer than 20 U.S. contractors would be assigned to Jordan for three years to provide on-site logistics support.

State said the fighter sale would help modernize Jordan’s air force and make sure its military can continue to work together effectively with U.S. and coalition forces on common goals such as fighting terrorist or other violent extremist groups.

Biden administration approves $4.2B F-16 sale to Jordan

The U.S. also approved the sale of spare parts to the United Arab Emirates for air defense systems, a few weeks after UAE used the THAAD system in battle for the first time.

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Biden administration approves $4.2B F-16 sale to Jordan​

By Stephen Losey
Feb 4, 2022


The Biden administration said Thursday it has cleared a possible sale of as many as 16 F-16 fighters and related equipment to Jordan worth up to $4.21 billion.

The State Department also approved a possible additional sale to the United Arab Emirates of spares and repair parts for air defense systems that would bring its value up to $65 million, as well as a possible $23.7 million sale to Saudi Arabia for data and voice communication systems. The Defense Security Cooperation Agency notified Congress on Thursday of the possible foreign military sales.

Jordan wants to buy as many as 12 F-16C and four F-16D fighters, all Block 70s, as well as 21 F100 engines, either made by General Electric or Pratt & Whitney, five of which would be spare engines. Lockheed Martin in Greenville, South Carolina, will be the principal contractor for this sale.

The arms package would also include numerous weapons and systems to arm the fighters, such as six AN/AAQ-33 Sniper Advanced Targeting Pods, 72 LAU-129 missile rail launchers, 21 M61A1 Vulcan cannons, 100 KMU-556 Joint Direct Attack Munition tail kits for 2,000-pound GBU-31 bombs, 102 KMU-572 JDAM tail kits for 500-pound laser JDAM GBU-54 bombs, 200 MK-84 or BLU-117 or equivalent bomb bodies, 204 MK-82 or BLU-111 or equivalent bomb bodies, ammunition, smoke flares and flare cartridges.

Jordan also wants to buy 31 Link 16 Low-Volume Terminals for both aircraft and ground stations, radars, mission computers, GPS navigation systems with anti-spoofing modules and multiple other pieces of equipment.

The sale would mean fewer than 20 U.S. contractors would be assigned to Jordan for three years to provide on-site logistics support.

State said the fighter sale would help modernize Jordan’s air force and make sure its military can continue to work together effectively with U.S. and coalition forces on common goals such as fighting terrorist or other violent extremist groups.

Biden administration approves $4.2B F-16 sale to Jordan

The U.S. also approved the sale of spare parts to the United Arab Emirates for air defense systems, a few weeks after UAE used the THAAD system in battle for the first time.

www.defensenews.com

Prices of F16s are crazy - the contract is of course fully loaded with support servics, infrastructure setup and training .. $262 combined for 1 fighter jet is crazy insane .... compare that with the $35/unit for the JF17.. you can see why countries are all starting their own programmes where they can.

 

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Prices of F16s are crazy - the contract is of course fully loaded with support servics, infrastructure setup and training .. $262 combined for 1 fighter jet is crazy insane .... compare that with the $35/unit for the JF17.. you can see why countries are all starting their own programmes where they can.

That is right, this is why I dont understand with many Indonesian fansboys hoping we are buying 36 F15 EX and 42 Rafale.

So far AlhamduliLLAH, we just bought 6 Rafale. I hope Indonesia government will only buy 1 squadron of Rafale (12-18 planes) and focus with KF21 program that so far can meet its development schedule AlhamduliLLAH

Order intake, deliveries and backlog of new aircraft as at December 31, 2022​

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AIRCRAFT ORDERED IN 2022​

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64 Falcon(*) have been ordered, compared to 51 in 2021.
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[Indos]

Does FA 50 have an internal SPJ. @Indos

I dont know, maybe you need to tag Korean member to know that

 

[Indos]

Well I don't think there is any Korean member on this forum, thought you would know because of the kf 21 programme

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@Faceless

As far as I can tell, the FA-50 does not have SPJ integrated. To be honest, I'm not sure why it should be integrated. Currently, the ROK does not use the FA-50 for Offensive Counter Air missions. It is mainly used for DCA and CAS. I can see the benefits of integrating the SPJ, but I think they decided it would be better to invest in other assets. I don't know if it will be on the list for future upgrades. Korea has the ALQ-88K, ALQ-200K, etc. with Podded SPJ, but they will not integrate it into the FA-50.
Currently, the FA-50 has SPS-45(v)5 and CMDS. EW Suite is being developed for the KF-21.

I hope this helps.

 

[Faceless]

EW Suite is being developed for the KF-21.

Details regarding this would be helpful, and thanks for the earlier info .

FA-50 has SPS-1000(v)5

Wait, you guys don't have your own RWR. However Are you planning on building one though